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eSports federation players defer OSL participation

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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 10:30:18
August 24 2012 08:47 GMT
#1
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&category=102&subcategory=

Basically ESF is pulling their players out of the Auction All-Kill OS2L following KeSPA's refusal to let their players partake in GSL4 qualifiers. This is kind of a big deal, because it means OGN is going to be screaming at KeSPA to clear up this shit - they've got a league starting on tuesday that is gonna be down 8 star players in their Ro16 if this isn't resolved quickly.

It's important to note that this is ESF's decision, not GOM's. ESF is most likely doing this out of support of GSL, but it's not a direct move by GOM to pull players out of the OS2L because GOM does not have any direct authority over the GSL players.

Translation courtesy of wwowz:
On August 24 2012 18:39 wwowz wrote:
Here is the translation. Hope I'm not too late It was pretty hard to translate as the response from ESF was really formal and serious.

From ESF//

First of all, on behalf of E-sports federation, we are truly sad about what happened to KT's Woo Jeong Ho. We are truly sad to deliver this news around this time.

Yesterday, we received a statement from Kespa that the players will not participate in GSL season. This was a shocking and disappointing news to us.

We want to express our apology on the breach in partnership between Kespa and Esports Federation and on Kespa's decisions.

GOMTV devoted great amount of effort to succesfully globalize Korean E-sports ever since the release of Starcraft II 2 years ago.

Thanks to this, "E-sports Federation" was assembled to work side-by-side with GOMTV in the hope to carry Korean E-sports a step forward.

Considering the days of "GOMTV Classic", the decision by Kespa to not participate in GSL is not a simple issue and we are afraid that it might recur in the future considering the situation.

GOMTV provided Kespa players with various accommodations regarding the schedule and application process and yet the decision by Kespa seems to spoil the partnership between E-sports Federation and Kespa.

One of the reasons that Kespa will not participate in GSL was that there is a conflict in scheduling of the players. This is pretty hard to accept as GOMTV was able to accommodate many schedule conflicts without any problem for the past 2 years and this was also the case for Kespa players who participated in WCS and WCG.

E-Sports Federation does not want GSL to be removed from Korean E-sports and if it does, the effect of E-sports Federation players to the global E-sports will decrease for certain.

We think that it is mandatory for Kespa to work with us and show great games to our viewers. As such, we have contacted teams of E-sports Federation (Startale, LG-IM, Prime, MVP, NSH, TSL, FXO) regarding the players who are participating in OSL (Nestea, MVP, DRG, MKP, Parting, San) to make the following decision:

For the better future of Korean E-sports, we politely ask Kespa players to participate in GSL and until Kespa decides to allow their players to join GSL without any problem, we have decided to pull our players from OSL.

It is also difficult for us to make such harsh decisions but we think it is necessary to appeal the dignity of GOMTV and E-sports Federation.

Once again, we are truly apologetic regarding such news and we hope that Kespa would cooperate so that we can show amazing games to all of you.

Thanks

E-sports Federation Player representative Jae Deok "Nestea" IM
E-sports Federation President Won Jong Wook

source
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13438&id=1273735


EDIT: http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/30093362883/sharpen-the-pitchforks-light-the-torches-kespa-is FXOBoSs weighs in.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:27:21
August 24 2012 08:48 GMT
#2
What is ESF? And who would be the players to be pulled?

Well, that escalated quickly.

EDIT: nvm esport federation! got it thanks.
bailando
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany332 Posts
August 24 2012 08:49 GMT
#3
oh shit thats big. hope they can solve this problem.
tehplank
Profile Joined October 2010
977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:50:14
August 24 2012 08:49 GMT
#4
On August 24 2012 17:48 phodacbiet wrote:
What is ESF? And who would be the players to be pulled?


E-Sports Federation?
Minatozaki Sana / Hirai Momo / Myoui Mina / Yoo Jeongyeon / Zhou Tzuyu / Im Nayeon / Son Chaeyoung / Kim Dahyun / Park Jihyo
Warlock40
Profile Joined September 2011
601 Posts
August 24 2012 08:49 GMT
#5
Low, but definitely understandable. I hope this will help bring about positive change, but it could very well make things worse.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 24 2012 08:49 GMT
#6
This is HUGE. Can they even continue the OSL with this happening? They lost half of their players.
wwowz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
August 24 2012 08:50 GMT
#7
On August 24 2012 17:48 phodacbiet wrote:
What is ESF? And who would be the players to be pulled?

E Sports Federation
aka "non-kespa" players are part of ESF.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 08:50 GMT
#8
lol what.... this is turning to kill e-sports -.-
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
August 24 2012 08:50 GMT
#9
On August 24 2012 17:49 Dodgin wrote:
This is HUGE. Can they even continue the OSL with this happening? They lost half of their players.


I hope all of this turns out well for both ends atm, im actually really nervous.
Jaedong & Faker
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
August 24 2012 08:50 GMT
#10
Wow this is some intense esports drama.
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FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:51:44
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#11
Hmm.... it's just a retaliation. Did Kespa not see it coming?

Granted, Kespa at least told GSL ahead of time they wouldn't be participating. This kinda fucks Kespa, while GSL never really got fucked.

(I know it's completely different, but I can't get used to saying ESF after just reading this topic).
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:52:12
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#12
On August 24 2012 17:48 phodacbiet wrote:
What is ESF? And who would be the players to be pulled?

ESF is e sports federation, if this goes through the following players will not be in the OSL:
San, MVP, parting, marineking, nestea, dongraegu and MC
Glorious SEA doto
skAnarky
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 13:41:14
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#13
I hope this works out for the best.
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#14
ESF is basically all the major Korean SC2 teams except for SlayerS, right? Does SlayerS have any players in the OS2L?
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#15
This has the opportunity to be fantastic for all players and for the growth of the scene. Apparently the korean scene is strongly in support of the federation's decision too.

But it also has the opportunity to spiral into something awful. I really hope the ESF knows what they are doing.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 24 2012 08:51 GMT
#16
sigh... i dont see kespa changing their minds about this

this is not going to benefit anyone
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 08:52 GMT
#17
this is really REALLY bad news, sigh......
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
MrJack1337
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany38 Posts
August 24 2012 08:52 GMT
#18
This is such a horrible decision but I understand it. I hope this move won't split eSF & KeSPA forever!
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 08:52 GMT
#19
On August 24 2012 17:51 Jacmert wrote:
ESF is basically all the major Korean SC2 teams except for SlayerS, right? Does SlayerS have any players in the OS2L?


I think...? Also MC said that he's siding with the Federation here, despite being on SK.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 24 2012 08:52 GMT
#20
here we go again... ?
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