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GoingGoingGone
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Slovakia529 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#41
On August 24 2012 17:54 iKill wrote:
from this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=362650&currentpage=80


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:41 anrimayu wrote:
Here's couple things I didn't mention. Oz isn't listed there only because he wasn't in Korea to be in the conference. Choya is doing damage control because people think Oz bailed on everyone by staying in OSL.

Also the bottom of the article states e-Sports Federation Players Representative Nestea. That's pretty awesome.


not sure if legit, but it might shed some light on why Oz is still in


Wolf tweeted that Fnatic is not on ESF.

ESF's reaction looks like one of the most effective SCV-pulls I've seen.
Busy night, but there's always room for another... unless the servers are down.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#42
On August 24 2012 17:55 vijeze wrote:
This is really bad. Shamefully done by ESF but may be able to force KeSPA's hand.


I think it's good that ESF takes action and not just sit there. Really cool to see by ESF
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#43
This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#44
Deciding not to join the next league is really bad, but pulling out in the middle of the league is a dick move. GOM cant just say Fuck You this loud lol. I fear that if KeSPA decides to play dirty too, GOM might be done for
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#45
On August 24 2012 17:52 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:51 nkr wrote:
sigh... i dont see kespa changing their minds about this

this is not going to benefit anyone


It's clearly better than the alternative.


the alternative is that we see kespa players in gsl next season when kespa believes they stand a chance

sucks for the kespa players but it's better for the scene
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
wwowz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada156 Posts
August 24 2012 08:57 GMT
#46
Hold on, let me work on the translation if I can.
falafelnr1
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden444 Posts
August 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#47
Lol, Kespa and Gom are such babies. Get your shit togheter!
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:59:25
August 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#48
hahaha Korean E-sports drama is the BEST.
Get beer and popcorn guys, I predict some epic days of angry Koreans raging at how their organization is better.

Props to ESF, let Kespa know they can't screw every1 over like they did in BW.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:58:26
August 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#49
This could decide SC2's future in Korea as an esport. If it fails you can pretty much say goodbye to SC2 ever getting huge in Korea. Pretty huge decision
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X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#50
this is really favoring ESF tho, since basically every one including kespa players AND blizzard dislikes kespa rofl.... this makes it almost certain kespa will come to terms and agreement unless kespa actually is retarded.
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Kommander
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines4950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:59:53
August 24 2012 08:58 GMT
#51
I'm normally not for the "eye for an eye" thing as I think it's equally low of the retaliating party. However since it is KeSPA they are retaliating against, then more power to the ESF.

Although I'm starting to think that esports (and the Korean StarCraft scene), would hurt from this.
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
August 24 2012 08:59 GMT
#52
I LOVE this decision, but hope its not bad.

League is already huge in Korea, and i felt KESPA type stuff (in conjunction with GOM) would help raise the popularity of sc2 -- especially with hots on the horizon.

Kespa is pulling the same bullshit they pulled in sc1 in trying to control their players and what their players DECIDE to do.

I like how gom handles things (internationally esp) and i hope this either kicks kespa into getting sht sorted out, or ends kespa and lets the players go someplace else....
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
August 24 2012 08:59 GMT
#53
God dammit. This is not cool.. D:
JyB
Profile Joined January 2012
France466 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#54
Is there a liquidpedia article about this "ESF" where I can learn form ?
I can't find it. Thanks.
robjapan
Profile Joined April 2011
Japan104 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#55
Fuck KeSPA, seriously they need to let their PLAYERS decide what tournaments they go to.

I know some of KeSPA players are going to be busy, but come on.. not ALL KeSPA players will be too busy to at least try and qualify for code A, it's the blanket carpet bombing style ban that is disgraceful from KeSPA.

Let's be honest, these tactics from KeSPA are an effort to get all of the famous players in a tournament that ISN'T GSL.

I'm sure they had ideas such as - "The ONLY place to see all of the best players in the world"

The OSL feat. Flash, JD, MVP and MKP., where else can you see all of these players??

So glad to see GSL/ESF telling KeSPA to go suck it.
Cheese is only cheese when you lose, when you win it's a valid tactic
Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#56
On August 24 2012 17:58 falafelnr1 wrote:
Lol, Kespa and Gom are such babies. Get your shit togheter!

What did gom do wrong?...
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#57
I can't even put into words how insane this is, I can't believe they are pulling out after the ODT and after the group selection ceremony.

Can they even do that? Aren't there contracts since It's on TV?
AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#58
Start the bullshit machine.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#59
So ESF have some leverage, this is good and will hopefully result in better things for everyone.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 24 2012 09:00 GMT
#60
On August 24 2012 17:57 Kergy wrote:
This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea


No it won't. It might hurt Kespa, but GOM will be fine as from what I read korean fans (that watch GSL players anyway) agree with their decision as it's been fairly positive someone said.

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