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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#81
sigh, KeSPA vs GOM drama strikes again...
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Sjokola
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands800 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#82
I really like that it's the teams that decided they won't take this. It has nothing to do with gom
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:05:29
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#83
It makes me really sad for the KeSPA players... I mean, they kill their game, and then completely fuck up the transition...

It's sad, but for the moment, only Blizzard-GOM organized tournament (WCS) has been able to show that this transition would be an amazing thing for SC2 (though that it's based on the end of BW, which is sad...).

And it was a qualifier... The logical follow-up would've been great tournaments like GSL and OSL, but NOPE, Kespa said no.


On August 24 2012 18:04 glzElectromaster wrote:
sigh, KeSPA vs GOM drama strikes again...


KeSPA*

GOM hasn't done anything wrong in this case.
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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#84
On August 24 2012 18:00 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:57 Kergy wrote:
This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea


No it won't. It might hurt Kespa, but GOM will be fine as from what I read korean fans (that watch GSL players anyway) agree with their decision as it's been fairly positive someone said.


I dont think thats a reality, if GOM(ESF) risks that much, it means they are threatened already by Kespa players reputation in Korea. Meaning Kespa already leads in Korea, how long GOM will live by foreign votes?
Stork[gm]
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#85
Somebody can finally push Kespa into a corner and tell them something. OSL wont be happy about this but they could have seen it coming. Imho this is the right move from ESF. Should Kespa be able to build on top of what GOM have been building for so long and not even allow their players to participate. I don't think so.
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#86
Can someone translate Korean community comments on this article? I really want to know they stance about all this.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#87
How about we switch back to BW ?
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#88
On August 24 2012 18:00 Malpractice.248 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:58 falafelnr1 wrote:
Lol, Kespa and Gom are such babies. Get your shit togheter!

What did gom do wrong?...

Nothing, Gom can just be happy that the players which had a breakthrough via their league are supporting them now. This isn't even a Gom move, but a players move.
Lasbike
Profile Joined January 2011
France2888 Posts
August 24 2012 09:04 GMT
#89
And here it begins..The split
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
August 24 2012 09:05 GMT
#90
This is fucking insane, and I feel terrible that I am just wildly entertained by the thought of what is going to happen next.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 24 2012 09:05 GMT
#91
this reminds me of the korean drama series i like to watch, but this seems to be a bad drama, i am gonna skip this one ..
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brainox
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany292 Posts
August 24 2012 09:05 GMT
#92
Will the whole foreigner scenen now boycott kespa too? Like viewers not watching any kespa tournament etc.
Debarbie
Profile Joined May 2009
Sweden204 Posts
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#93
shit just got real
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#94
Wow this hit the fan fast.
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#95
Its slightly ironic that ESF is doing this. They are doing this to help their fellow players on Kespa, They know they can take OS2L and take home abig cheque, but helping the scene grow and allowing more freedom to all sc2 players is more important.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:07:10
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#96
Also KeSPA has everything to lose here. Even with the BW community support, the current SC2 is heavily in favor of the ESF (if only because they play in the international scene regularly and freely), and it would only end in a loss for them if a complete split occurs. The roles are reversed since the days of GOM classic.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#97
On August 24 2012 18:02 Kreb wrote:
If I recall correctly, GomTV isnt a part of the ESF in any way, right?

That fact might be worth being added to the OP, since ESF players are often called "gom players" or "GSL players". But this decision was not done by GOM, but by the teams in the ESF. So no matter whether you like it or hate it, agree or disagree, dont blame GOM for it.

(If theres any factual error in this, please tell me and I'll remove it)

you are 100% correct. GOM is only being "used" by ESF. And I'm not saying in a negative way, Kespa, once again, uses their monopoly thinking and forbidding their players to attend GOM which pissed ESF off. and that's the only role GOM has in this conflict.
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mardi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1164 Posts
August 24 2012 09:06 GMT
#98
this is pretty crazy. ESF pulling some crazy ish. Kespa, let your players play!
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#99
When majority of the Foreign community is against you along with your own people and maybe even Blizzard itself, you are doing something WRONG.
zantomun
Profile Joined June 2011
United States37 Posts
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#100
On August 24 2012 18:05 brainox wrote:
Will the whole foreigner scenen now boycott kespa too? Like viewers not watching any kespa tournament etc.

Can't speak for anyone else but I will not be watching it on principle. However I have nothing against the players themselves so will still be following them at MLG and WCS
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