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eSports federation players defer OSL participation - Page 6

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KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#101
nice now i cant watch OSL after the hype through the group selection? that was more interresting then the last GSL... sigh... please fix this and talk >_>
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:10:23
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#102
On August 24 2012 17:57 Arceus wrote:
Deciding not to join the next league is really bad, but pulling out in the middle of the league is a dick move. GOM cant just say Fuck You this loud lol. I fear that if KeSPA decides to play dirty too, GOM might be done for

They've done this because KeSPA decided to play dirty by not participating in the GSL. Obviously its not fair if the OSL are making money from the ESF vs KeSPA player storyline, while GOM gets nothing. If GOM wants to stay competitive it's probably the right move or they risk being pushed out, but at the same time unless they both agree to stop this nonsense and allow players to participate in both leagues then things will just escalate and get even more out of hand.

I don't know if things can get better from this though, its the second time that KeSPA has tried to screw GOM over so they're unlikely to ever trust them again now.

Fucking hell KeSPA you greedy snakes, why couldn't you have paid more attention to MVP's speech at the group selection.
xSTaRFiSHx
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany176 Posts
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#103
Even though this sucks right now, I fully support ESF's decision.
I feel like its important to show kespa this isn't broodwar and they have to be careful with every step they make.
I'm not really into that "player-suppression" anyway...

Gogo Commander Stork, save the day! *_*
I wonder if there will be cake...
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 09:11:19
August 24 2012 09:07 GMT
#104
Btw I think people can stop saying GOMTV or GSL is doing this as they are not part of ESF. This is the old school Korean sc2 teams that are putting their foot down and it's a pretty clear message of "We either have open competition or we don't, no in between where Kespa picks the tournaments".

Personally I like it, little brother is shoving back.

Also it's a bloody best of 1 tournament (doesn't matter that later stages are not) so I don't think losing this OSL tournament is much of a loss.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#105
On August 24 2012 18:02 Kreb wrote:
If I recall correctly, GomTV isnt a part of the ESF in any way, right?

That fact might be worth being added to the OP, since ESF players are often called "gom players" or "GSL players". But this decision was not done by GOM, but by the teams in the ESF. So no matter whether you like it or hate it, agree or disagree, dont blame GOM for it.

(If theres any factual error in this, please tell me and I'll remove it)


Won't matter to KESPA at the least if you make the distinction between them. They want this to happen even if it is just one group of players and not GOM making the decision.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#106
This is really sad news, I hope they get their shit together, or else sc2 will never break through in korea.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#107
I would laugh so hard if Kespa would switch back to BW. Ye i know they technically cannot(contracting?). But it would be so funny.
Stork[gm]
Akio00
Profile Joined January 2011
United States98 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#108
The fans need to step up. Email sponsers, boycott KeSPA tourneys, etc.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 24 2012 09:08 GMT
#109
On August 24 2012 18:04 Odoakar wrote:
Can someone translate Korean community comments on this article? I really want to know they stance about all this.


For the first time ever, both BW and SC2 community have united to shit on Kespa. Congratulation?
☆*:.。. o(≧▽≦)o .。.:*☆
LeLfe
Profile Joined February 2011
France3160 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#110
it's getting ridiculous, bad leaders and the players have to pay for it...
Writer for Red bull (Fr) and Iron Squid (En/Fr) @ClemLeLfe on twitter
saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#111
i don't understand why people are bitching and the fact it's going to hurt "sc2"
this move should have been done LONG AGO if anything. kespa are the douches if you guys don't see that. what they're essentially trying to do with not merging with non kespa players is have their players catch up and keep the reign that they had in bw without showing that their players are weaker than GSL players in sc2. THAT HURTS EVERYONE. why? because kespa players can't catch up quicker. the more they play against people currently better than they are, the quicker they catch up.
along with the fact GSL players don't see another side of a pure style of game that they lack.
not to mention EVERYONE wants to see the kespa best vs the sc2 best, and it would completely bring unity to the sc community but they don't' want that happening cause they're to prideful.
Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#112
Who are the members of ESF? aAnd which players will be pulled?
Is this some sort of comeback to Kespa for pulling out of GSL?
Bisu - INnoVation - Dark - Rogue - Stats
Nyarly
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1030 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#113
Lol and love it !
Talic_Zealot
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
688 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#114
Fuck KeSPA, but why screw over OSL / OGN ?
There are three types of people in the universe: those who can count, and those who cant.
LRObot
Profile Joined April 2011
United States153 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#115
I wonder if Kespa really cares for its former b-teamers. Bold move GOM, I'm rooting for you.
Never say die
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
August 24 2012 09:09 GMT
#116
I wonder how this will end if KeSPA won't give in...
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
August 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#117
Interesting move. Lets see how Kespa reacts to this now.

I'm glad they are taking a stance and not letting Kespa run the show like they did in BW.
Mauldo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States750 Posts
August 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#118
On August 24 2012 18:04 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:00 blade55555 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:57 Kergy wrote:
This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea


No it won't. It might hurt Kespa, but GOM will be fine as from what I read korean fans (that watch GSL players anyway) agree with their decision as it's been fairly positive someone said.


I dont think thats a reality, if GOM(ESF) risks that much, it means they are threatened already by Kespa players reputation in Korea. Meaning Kespa already leads in Korea, how long GOM will live by foreign votes?


What are they risking though? Kespa fucked GOM, so ESF fucked Kespa. Considering ESF has been basically supported by the regular paycheck of GSL, the move makes sense. Mr. Chae (and Artosis on a few SOTGs) has gone on record multiple times saying GSL was basically there to fund teams until they could get real sponsors with Code A and Code S paychecks.

What happened was Kespa threw a jab at GOM, and ESF stepped in to tackle them to the ground. Now Kespa has figure out how they're going to get standing again.

Can you tell me what they're risking? Especially when Korean fans are uniformly with the ESF decision?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#119
On August 24 2012 18:09 Talic_Zealot wrote:
Fuck KeSPA, but why screw over OSL / OGN ?


Why KeSPa screw over GSL?
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
August 24 2012 09:10 GMT
#120
While it is bad for us fans in the short term, I guess it is a good move in the long term.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
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