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eSports federation players defer OSL participation - Page 8

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Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#141
On August 24 2012 18:09 Twinkle Toes wrote:
Who are the members of ESF? aAnd which players will be pulled?
Is this some sort of comeback to Kespa for pulling out of GSL?


All the GSL teams except Slayers. Every GSL player in the OSL is pulled except for Oz, which is only because 1) Fnatic is a foreign team and not part of ESF, so he isn't automatically removed, and 2) he's away at MLG and unable to communicate back home. It's likely he will drop out as well.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33603 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#142
how the fuck did OGN get stuck in the middle of this
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
haka
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#143
I kinda like this move, at least right now. Really cool. But we'll see how this whole thing pans out. I really want both sides to just play
frezMki
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany62 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#144
wow they are already bitching around -.-
They say if it's not broken don't fix it - Well, if it could be better it is as good as broken
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#145
On August 24 2012 18:10 Integra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:08 anrimayu wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:04 Odoakar wrote:
Can someone translate Korean community comments on this article? I really want to know they stance about all this.


For the first time ever, both BW and SC2 community have united to shit on Kespa. Congratulation?

Was that their masterplan? They saw in the future that the BW and SC2 community would be divided so they started to act like idiots so both sides would join up against a common enemy and that way unite as one?

What if kespa have been heroes all along, they grow tired of the constant fights between starcraft fans and cause so much controversy to unite everyone. The heroes we truly needed.
Glorious SEA doto
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#146
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.
Eruism
Profile Joined December 2011
United States312 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#147
hopefully kespa gives in and allows their players to participate in gsl, and then the esf players don't pull out from osl and we can all be happy.
PartinG MarineKing Mvp Polt Keen ByuN <3
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 24 2012 09:14 GMT
#148
On August 24 2012 18:12 Kommander wrote:
I thought Blizzard was gonna make a statement? C'mon Morhaime, make yourself useful!


The korean blizz rep said that they would be making a statement tomorrow(which is today) so probably later on today they will have a statement.
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
August 24 2012 09:15 GMT
#149
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.

ESF players CHOSE not to play in OSL. Kespa team's didn't have a choice. ESF players are boycotting out of loyalty.
Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
August 24 2012 09:15 GMT
#150
Holy crap, them koreans can't seem to get along :o

Don't know much about kespa's history but I suppose this is a good move and hopefully we get all players in both leagues?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2012 09:15 GMT
#151
On August 24 2012 18:14 Waxangel wrote:
how the fuck did OGN get stuck in the middle of this


I agree that it sucks for them, but it is not a move to mess with OGN, it is just because of the sanctioned KeSPa event...but yeah, sucks for them. Hopefully they will put some pressure back on KeSPa as well.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 24 2012 09:15 GMT
#152
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.


Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#153
I wonder what Boxer thinks about this now that he is on the Kespa side, since he was on the ESF side till last week. Maybe the emperor will save korean sc2 .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#154
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.

Their players agreed to this, as it threatens their survival. The statement was given by Nestea.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#155
On August 24 2012 18:14 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:12 blade55555 wrote:
On August 24 2012 18:12 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Fairly sure kespa's next move will be even uglier


I'm not sure what they could do to be "uglier". Their players aren't playing in gsl what more can they do?

Don't underestimate kespa. If it can be dirtier, they will make it dirtier. But thumbs up to ESF, show kespa they can't fuck GOM over just like that who actually made the effort to promote sc2.

Now Kespa can risk and put everything on 1 card, they say "fine" play kespa vs kespa OSL, train their players, players somehow gets better than GOM ones and by market rules people will want to watch Kespa players, and Kespa will smile and say, welcome to our land.
Stork[gm]
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#156
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.


Unlike KeSPA, who forces decisions onto their players, GOM had nothing to do with this.
kollossal
Profile Joined June 2011
England10 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#157
i will support gom all the way and everyone should know ESF is different to GOM! So ESF are just basically thanking GOM because they are awesome.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#158
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.


At least they talked to their players to see if they agreed or not, which they did, unlike Kespa who just says "Fuck no your not playing in that tourney, tough shit"
ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#159
On August 24 2012 18:16 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!

Guess not.

Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens.

Their players agreed to this, as it threatens their survival. The statement was given by Nestea.

Like a fucking boss. i like him.
Dwelf
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands365 Posts
August 24 2012 09:16 GMT
#160
This feels like a shitty nash equilibrium
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