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On August 24 2012 18:10 Mauldo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:04 bgx wrote:On August 24 2012 18:00 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 17:57 Kergy wrote:This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea  No it won't. It might hurt Kespa, but GOM will be fine as from what I read korean fans (that watch GSL players anyway) agree with their decision as it's been fairly positive someone said. I dont think thats a reality, if GOM(ESF) risks that much, it means they are threatened already by Kespa players reputation in Korea. Meaning Kespa already leads in Korea, how long GOM will live by foreign votes? What are they risking though? Kespa fucked GOM, so ESF fucked Kespa. Considering ESF has been basically supported by the regular paycheck of GSL, the move makes sense. Mr. Chae (and Artosis on a few SOTGs) has gone on record multiple times saying GSL was basically there to fund teams until they could get real sponsors with Code A and Code S paychecks. What happened was Kespa threw a jab at GOM, and ESF stepped in to tackle them to the ground. Now Kespa has figure out how they're going to get standing again. Can you tell me what they're risking? Especially when Korean fans are uniformly with the ESF decision?
ESF what are they risking? Their organization along with GOM. Why? Because KESPA doesn't need their players now, they will just offer them bigger paychecks later. Because KESPA has MONEY. KESPA threw a fucking haymaker. ESF slapped them because they have no real influence. Now, KESPA doesn't have to give a shit. One more blow. Snipe all ESF/GOM players ASAP. Why? Cuz dey has money.
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Yeah this is such a dick move to OGN and Auction though. This affect alot more people than just "KeSPA".
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That hair! Why are they on tees now?
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Wicked! I hope both sides come to an agreement now. At least Gom appeared to want to be friendly with everyone. I want both leagues to excell.
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Well you never know. If they get seperated enough maybe KESPA will switch back to BW. I'd love that xd
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On August 24 2012 18:18 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:15 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!
Guess not.
Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens. Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not. Yes, let's trust bland PR statements because they're definitely being honest. -_- It's literally the same thing on both sides and for literally the same reasons. Except the GSL players already committed to playing in OSL.
MC came out on twitter to say he sides the ESF. Choya is explaning OZ's side. That's not PR. And the one who announce this decision is Nestea. A player. See the difference?
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also i would like to say MC chose to side with ESF and ESF's decision are done by players and coaches whilst with kespa, teams have no choice but what i wonder is what stops kespa teams going to ESF??? Can someone answer me i am really curious.
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On August 24 2012 18:18 bgx wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:17 anrimayu wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Waxangel wrote:how the fuck did OGN get stuck in the middle of this Because OGN is part of Kespa committee that had a say in GSL boycott. They deserve it. LOL you are pushing it.
Really? source
Read the article. That's exactly what it says.
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On August 24 2012 18:19 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:18 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 18:15 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!
Guess not.
Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens. Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not. Yes, let's trust bland PR statements because they're definitely being honest. -_- It's literally the same thing on both sides and for literally the same reasons. Except the GSL players already committed to playing in OSL. MC came out on twitter to say he sides the ESF. Choya is explaning OZ's side. That's not PR.
Choya? Sorry to get picky but shouldn't hwanni be the one in charge of Oz since he's on fnatic.
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MVP tried to save us with his speech but it wasn't enough, I hope it all works out
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On August 24 2012 18:18 NoobSkills wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:10 Mauldo wrote:On August 24 2012 18:04 bgx wrote:On August 24 2012 18:00 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 17:57 Kergy wrote:This may end up killing SC2 completely in Korea No it won't. It might hurt Kespa, but GOM will be fine as from what I read korean fans (that watch GSL players anyway) agree with their decision as it's been fairly positive someone said. I dont think thats a reality, if GOM(ESF) risks that much, it means they are threatened already by Kespa players reputation in Korea. Meaning Kespa already leads in Korea, how long GOM will live by foreign votes? What are they risking though? Kespa fucked GOM, so ESF fucked Kespa. Considering ESF has been basically supported by the regular paycheck of GSL, the move makes sense. Mr. Chae (and Artosis on a few SOTGs) has gone on record multiple times saying GSL was basically there to fund teams until they could get real sponsors with Code A and Code S paychecks. What happened was Kespa threw a jab at GOM, and ESF stepped in to tackle them to the ground. Now Kespa has figure out how they're going to get standing again. Can you tell me what they're risking? Especially when Korean fans are uniformly with the ESF decision? ESF what are they risking? Their organization along with GOM. Why? Because KESPA doesn't need their players now, they will just offer them bigger paychecks later. Because KESPA has MONEY. KESPA threw a fucking haymaker. ESF slapped them because they have no real influence. Now, KESPA doesn't have to give a shit. One more blow. Snipe all ESF/GOM players ASAP. Why? Cuz dey has money.
Uhh no. 1) They signed an agreement not to do that and 2) All of the players wont suddenly up and move.
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The 3\4 of the views at the vod of nominations was made by mc dressing like undertaker. Deal with it, and then decide about your players.
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On August 24 2012 18:19 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:18 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 18:15 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!
Guess not.
Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens. Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not. Yes, let's trust bland PR statements because they're definitely being honest. -_- It's literally the same thing on both sides and for literally the same reasons. Except the GSL players already committed to playing in OSL. MC came out on twitter to say he sides the ESF. Choya is explaning OZ's side. That's not PR.
No, they're just pouring their hearts out.
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are the players ok with this though? Isn't ESF just doing exactly the same thing that we called Kespa out on? I doubt the GSL players don't want to play in the OSL
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GOMTV has done everything in it's power/budget to try and accommodate their very poor participants/teams, even though they had no obligation to.
It's just right that the teams/players return the favor.
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On August 24 2012 18:20 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:19 ImNightmare wrote:On August 24 2012 18:18 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 18:15 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!
Guess not.
Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens. Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not. Yes, let's trust bland PR statements because they're definitely being honest. -_- It's literally the same thing on both sides and for literally the same reasons. Except the GSL players already committed to playing in OSL. MC came out on twitter to say he sides the ESF. Choya is explaning OZ's side. That's not PR. Choya? Sorry to get picky but shouldn't hwanni be the one in charge of Oz since he's on fnatic.
No idea, but choya is helping because Oz is his buddy. They are tight but Oz is not in korea so he can't find a way to communicate. that's why choya is helping.
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Time to test that Kespa talent
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I support GOM all the way. KeSPA have ever since they were overtaken by major businesses been a bunch of A-Grade assholes.
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sucks if ESF players won't be in the osl, but at the same time I'm glad someone stood up to Kespa being dicks.
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On August 24 2012 18:19 ImNightmare wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 18:18 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 18:15 blade55555 wrote:On August 24 2012 18:14 Talin wrote:
Hey, I thought ESF players had the freedom and independence to play in any tournament they like!
Guess not.
Seriously, GOM & co are such drama queens. Just an FYI this is the players decisions. Nothing to do with GOM the players want to react themselves. Isn't that funny now you can't blame GOM as they don't have ANY control over the players in what they play or not. Yes, let's trust bland PR statements because they're definitely being honest. -_- It's literally the same thing on both sides and for literally the same reasons. Except the GSL players already committed to playing in OSL. MC came out on twitter to say he sides the ESF. Choya is explaning OZ's side. That's not PR. And the one who announce this decision is Nestea. A player. See the difference?
Is there anywhere with a list of what the progamers have said? Any links you can give?
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