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Medrea
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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Inverse1
United Kingdom61 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:02 Medrea wrote: Blizzard has ultimate control here. They can pull broadcasting rights of whoever they want for no reason at all. Unless there's a contract with Blizzard for broadcast rights for a longer period (which I suspect GOM and Kespa both have), in which case the organization that gets their broadcast rights pulled could sue and would most likely win. | ||
Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:05 Rannasha wrote: Unless there's a contract with Blizzard for broadcast rights for a longer period (which I suspect GOM and Kespa both have), in which case the organization that gets their broadcast rights pulled could sue and would most likely win. Pretty sure Blizzard reserves the right to cancel or terminate at any time. Can't be sued. I mean think about it. With such a clause there whats Gom or Kespa gonna do? NOT sign? You either want to broadcast SC2 tournaments with all of Blizzards rules, or you dont. I find it hard to believe Blizzard would leave themselves open like that. | ||
Advantageous
China1350 Posts
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Drlemur
United States153 Posts
Just a guess. | ||
ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:08 Drlemur wrote: I wonder if Kespa requested seeds into GSL for their players so they (or at least some of them) could avoid fighting through the very difficult preliminaries. If GOM was unwilling, maybe that prompted them to pull out entirely? Just a guess. GOM was going to give out 2 Code S seed 2 UnD seed and 4 Code A seed. | ||
Gospadin
United States84 Posts
On August 24 2012 02:40 Sutekhy wrote: Haha Code A being a slap in the face for the Kespa players? I'd be willing to bet that less than half of the kespa players would even make it out of code a. +1 Code A qualifiers (and Code A itself) is the hardest tournament on the planet. Every single up-and-coming SC2 player is taking their shot at the stars, leading to a very unstable metagame. | ||
SiguR
Canada2039 Posts
And what if there actually are scheduling conflicts with an as of now un-announced tournament? I mean, their track record indicates otherwise, but arent we getting ahead of ourselves? | ||
Sethronu
United Kingdom450 Posts
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Hey you asked for it. Well OSL is filled with my favorite guys, namely JangBi + BaBy And GOM TV have the top tier English commentating that OSL can't offer. Place those two component into one entity and I'll be one happy panda. And the only way to do that is for OGN to get those two on board. In the same process, GSL would probably die off due to my guilty pleasure. I will be surely guilty for the 'catastrophic' event on GOM's part, yes. But momentarily, I will also be pleased. And as Patrick Bateman once said: "...it's impossible in this world we live in to empathize with others, we can always empathize with ourselves." | ||
iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:07 Medrea wrote: Pretty sure Blizzard reserves the right to cancel or terminate at any time. Can't be sued. I mean think about it. With such a clause there whats Gom or Kespa gonna do? NOT sign? You either want to broadcast SC2 tournaments with all of Blizzards rules, or you dont. I find it hard to believe Blizzard would leave themselves open like that. Why are you assuming contract terms? What's the point of saying what Blizzard can or cannot do legally without actually knowing what the terms are? | ||
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InsidiA
Canada1169 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
if i was kespa i would probably do the same for the sake of sponsors wanting their players do well. what we saw at wcs was only a handful and only a few got through meanwhile shitload of kespa players didnt make it or try. kespa players are simply not at the top of their level. however, i personally would hold a meeting and see how the players feel and see how many would like to enter and whatnot but thats questioning the system and that seems unproductive so there is no need. be patient, it will come. as for osl, osl is the home of kespa individual league and "gom players" are not tied to gom in any way like kespa and bw pros. i root for kespa players and it would suck so much if 40 kespa players entered gsl qualifiers and only 5 got through, if that. and i still dont like gom for not taking care of koreans outside of korea after 2 years. unlike majority here, i stopped watching gsl and whole sc2 streams because of english commentary and started watching sc2 again thanks to ogn's korean commentary. | ||
camilocraft
Colombia33 Posts
On August 24 2012 02:23 Signus wrote: Because if they are allowed to participate, most of the players will do so. That's what they do, play the game. Unfortunately, they are being barred from doing so since if someone of Jaedong or Flash's stature doesn't get into Code A, it will be very embarrassing. So to protect the marketability of their players, Kespa is keeping everyone out to ensure they don't look bad for not being able to get into the SC2 minor league. Is pretty funny that some people said that the GSL is some SC2 minor league. Actually is and has been the main SC2 league in the short history of SC2. I really cannot understand how, or why (as a foreing) the OSL is big. OSL with a VOD system with crap quality, no english commentary and clearly poor quality games compared to GSL for me is the minor SC2 league. Yes I know something about the history and yes I know little to non about the BW era, but guess what, now I see a lot of SC2 because GOM created an infrastructure to allow me to become a fan. I really don´t know how koreans percieve the GSL but for US is the TOP TOP TOP TOP SC2 league. The first SC2 OSL is just like Open Season 1, a lot of hype but in the end we will talk about how bad they were playing at this stages. Personally I want to se more players, even if they see something bad, because you could say, remember that guy playing like crap, well right now is a f***ing god :D | ||
karpo
Sweden1998 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:19 Sethronu wrote: The whole KeSPA is evil / no they're doing the right thing debate aside, why does anyone think, and worse yet, EMBRACE the thought that Blizzard "has the right to pull the plug" on any tournament at any given time? They get their profits from developing the game by selling the actual game; how is it right that they demand a cut from basically everything related to the game on top of that? Their support for e-sports scene is a joke and always has been, if they start pushing whatever teams / players into doing things how they see fit that's probably the single worst thing that could happen to SC scene as a whole. It's Blizzards game we watch and play. They own the IP, run the servers, and do the patching. I'd rather see them in control than kespa, MLG, or any other company. | ||
0neder
United States3733 Posts
I don't think this will be good. Kespa could drop SC2 altogether if Blizzard is too bossy. | ||
Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On August 24 2012 03:25 karpo wrote: It's Blizzards game we watch and play. They own the IP, run the servers, and do the patching. I'd rather see them in control than kespa, MLG, or any other company. In that case, Esport is a joke that can be shut down at ease anytime. | ||
ShadowReaver
Canada563 Posts
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