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On August 27 2012 02:45 Sethronu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 02:36 Falconblade wrote:On August 26 2012 23:28 chisuri wrote:
@Tossi83 so that I don't have to quote all of yours:
- What everyone thought doesn't matter. Bring out any firm promise or better yet contract that stipulates KeSPA's responsibilities that they violated. What you thought is good for you, no surprise here. But KeSPA holds no responsibility for that. And KeSPA players never thought they would attend. They are always say that it's up to the teams' schedule, and KeSPA is the union of the teams.
- They wanted to participate or not doesn't matter. They are employees and the teams decide where they play. Don't agree? Follow Effort's example and quit. Just don't even think of coming back. And that's normal conduct of every business and sport in the world. Go figure.
- They will cooperate. They will participate in GSL 5. The agreement was open for any interpretation. KeSPA will cooperate before the year end and after its players fully transited. It's good enough. If your interpretation is different, well too bad. But you have no right or power to force it on anyone. And it's nothing bad from KeSPA if it has different opinion from yours.
- The reasons were not lame or anything. I explain one way of understanding the reasons from KeSPA's PoV which makes perfect sense imo. Even if you don't think it is, there is only one thing could be considered bad in this world- illegal activity. Other than that, each of his own. I personally am fine with KeSPA's explanation. You aren't? Too bad again...for you.
Each of the above points is bad because you think so? And you want me to prove or explain what? If you think so then just live with it, I can't change that. But it is fine in normal world. Do you know that denying a invitation is not a crime? Do you know that blackmail and intentional sabotage are? Okay, KeSPA is fine, I don't care if they don't want to participate in GSL 4 + as they suggested they would. I also think eSF is fine for not allowing their players to play as it goes against their principles of good faith that led them to allow players into OSL. IT's not blackmail so much as eSF's right to do the same thing to preserve their business that KesPA is doing to them It'd be perfectly fine if eSF said "we won't play in the NEXT OSL". What makes it fucking stupid, pathetic, and horrible both for the orgs and the viewers is that they are pulling out in the MIDDLE OF AN ONGOING TOURNAMENT. Everything else is irrelevant, really.
Then it leaves KeSPA reaping the immediate benefits whereas the benefits to eSF is much delayed, and possibly never to be repaid. Tit-for-tat seems best. And while eSF may look dickish, they have a right to do so to protect their interests, especially if KeSPA is doing just the same.
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I don't watch anything but the GSL when it comes to Korean competetion.
Kespa needs to think about acting a little selfless for once.
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On August 27 2012 03:24 BgSBendeR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 03:01 LanTAs wrote:On August 27 2012 02:46 Azuzu wrote:
On the bright side... ESF v KESPA grudge matches are going to be amazing. Really its more about GOM vs KeSpa Round 2 (KeSpa leads 1-0), but since ESF is so dependent on the GSL where their players play, GOM and ESF are going to try and fight KeSpa. All that matters now is what the korean fans want to do about it, and to us foreigners, the only thing we can do is sit back, relax, and watch the sparks fly.  GOM is so pathetic. Bribing eSF on the side to boycott KeSPA events. I seriously hope we get a repeat of GOMTV classic all over again and those guys go out of business.
I think Kespa wanted to simply flex their muscle by not taking part in GSL and to show that GSL is not very significant. That was their bet. However, as it is a battle of survival for their opponents, ESF/GSL decided to raise the pot. Whether Kespa calls or folds, I suppose, boils down to how important they believe the rivalry is. Personally I think it is the biggest chance for SC2 taking off in Korea but Kespa might have enough trust in their starpower.
Whatever happens, I think Kespa will overshadow GSL/ESF. They simply wrestle in different divisions. But at what cost? That is the question.
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EPT
