• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:30
CEST 12:30
KST 19:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1340 users

Heart of the Swarm TvP Battle Report! - Page 16

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 80 Next
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:56:08
August 14 2012 01:55 GMT
#301
On August 14 2012 10:48 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:44 AndAgain wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:41 Plexa wrote:
There are no words to describe how underwhelmed I am.


How can you talk about how whelmed you are without seeing actually good, experienced players play it.

If you can tell me one redeeming feature of this BR I will be impressed.


Uh, those destructible debree tower thingies are fucking impressive? -.-
Yeah, this battle report did not kick that much ass ^^
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
August 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#302
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.
The basic key to beating a priest is playing a deck that is terrible.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#303
On August 14 2012 10:55 trifecta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:53 ntssauce wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.


the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D!


so now toss has their broodlord

It does the DPS of a Roach, costs 300/300/6, and takes 75 seconds to build. Wouldn't get your hopes up.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 14 2012 01:57 GMT
#304
I'd say very little information can be gathered from that report, simply because both players just showed off some of the new units and a-moved around the map the rest of the time. You can't expect unsieged tanks + support to be this effective against a protoss who knows what they're doing.

The level of play was bad, plain and simple. Beta and real metagame development can't come soon enough.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:58:15
August 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#305
that looked rather silly. Something about the warhound and tempest just looked ridiculous to me. Combine that with the fact that the only thing that looks more OP than Protoss as a whole is the widow mine. It one shot the friggin oracle. Thats absurd
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#306
The thing I like about the tempest is that it gives a counter to the mass spine crawler zerg.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#307
On August 14 2012 10:56 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:55 trifecta wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:53 ntssauce wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.


the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D!


so now toss has their broodlord

It does the DPS of a Roach, costs 300/300/6, and takes 75 seconds to build. Wouldn't get your hopes up.

And it doesn't make a ton of Zerglings which screw up the pathing of everything on the ground.
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:59:30
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#308
On August 14 2012 10:54 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.

He only made Stargate units to show them off. Against Terran Stargate play is really unlikely to be that prevalent. Blizzard definitely wants the Tempest to be the go-to unit against Zerg late-game though. The Mothership Core looks insane for Protoss though, it's so ridiculously versatile.


Except for the life of me I cant fined a good practical use for the Tempest at all in any matchup, it seems utterly retarded.

I mean really what are you going to do with the Tempest? Sit it back and slowly chip away at Broodlords? Great well that still suffers from the same weakenesses that Carriers have, they take a while to build and will take a long time to really kill anything unless you get a bunch of them and if you get a bunch of them you risk just being ran over by a round of Corruptors. COOL UNIT BLIZRD.

I actually like most of the units and think they are very useful except the Viper looks boring and gay to me and the Swarm Host is strong but it looks really boring as a "set & forget" unit.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#309
On August 14 2012 10:56 Sumadin wrote:
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.


-people wanted the mech army to be you know, a mech army, instead of bio v2 2012 hots

-the map feedback that they have received over the course of two years is just ignored?

-it was actually the developers. but yea they are not good players, so thats the only understandable point
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#310
Wow, if Diablo III didn't make me lose every last bit of faith I had left in Blizzard, this certainly did. Blizzard have no clue what they're doing. GG.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#311
starting..
Jaedong.
recoil56
Profile Joined September 2011
United States18 Posts
August 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#312
LOL @ 16:35 Day9 talking about T excellent macro when the Terran is floating 3.5k minerals with 160/200 supply.

Anyways, on a related note, I honestly think the warhound is the last unknown for T. It is either going to make or break this composition when HOTS finally releases. So far, I just can't really get into it.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
August 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#313
Not raging like everyone else in the thread, but I'm wholly disappointed in Day9, hahahaha. "The Terran's macro is IMPECCABLE!" ... terran banking 4k at 160 supply rofl.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1712 Posts
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#314
Once again, Blizzard shows they cant make maps
•••Acer.MMA••• <> KT_Puzzle <> JinAir•GreenWings_CoCa <> CJ_herO <> Axiom CranK & Ryung <> IM_Seed <> IM_Squirtle <> le' ToD <> Innovation <> ROOT_CatZ <> inuh! <> Chobra <> SKT1_Fantasy
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:02:57
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#315
On August 14 2012 10:59 Kal_rA wrote:
starting..


what... where's the stream !?!?!?

edit: nvm, I am dumb ...
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26856 Posts
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#316
On August 14 2012 10:59 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:56 Sumadin wrote:
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.


-people wanted the mech army to be you know, a mech army, instead of bio v2 2012 hots

-the map feedback that they have received over the course of two years is just ignored?

-it was actually the developers. but yea they are not good players, so thats the only understandable point

Did someone not say David Kim was playing? I mean he's meant to be high/master GM right? I'd guess he was instructed to show off the new gadgets but, Toss just looked helpless against 'immobile' mech.

I suppose Day9s job is to hype, but christ can he whore himself out more? Why can't he use his position of influence, and a bridge between the casual and competitive levels of Starcraft to actually lobby Blizzard for stuff that isn't ridiculous, is that too much to ask?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45971 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:03:38
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#317
wtf it started early x.x

Fantastic.

I'll just wait for it to be posted/ the VOD. Silly to watch starting part of the way through.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
koffeinfrei
Profile Joined February 2011
26 Posts
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#318
Oh god i cant stand more casual shit anymore >.< GIVE US SOMETHING TO MICRO/MULTITASK BLIZZARD
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#319
On August 14 2012 10:59 BeeNu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.

He only made Stargate units to show them off. Against Terran Stargate play is really unlikely to be that prevalent. Blizzard definitely wants the Tempest to be the go-to unit against Zerg late-game though. The Mothership Core looks insane for Protoss though, it's so ridiculously versatile.


Except for the life of me I cant fined a good practical use for the Tempest at all in any matchup, it seems utterly retarded.

I mean really what are you going to do with the Tempest? Sit it back and slowly chip away at Broodlords? Great well that still suffers from the same weakenesses that Carriers have, they take a while to build and will take a long time to really kill anything unless you get a bunch of them and if you get a bunch of them you risk just being ran over by a round of Corruptors. COOL UNIT BLIZRD.

I actually like most of the units and think they are very useful except the Viper looks boring and gay to me and the Swarm Host is strong but it looks really boring as a "set & forget" unit.

The numbers will be tweaked, look at the idea of it. Blizzard will tweak the Tempest for sure to make it good against BL Infestor Spine armies.
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
August 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#320
All I got from that borefest was: no carriers no buy.
Prev 1 14 15 16 17 18 80 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 30m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Soma 1535
Hyuk 1103
Killer 404
Larva 364
Mini 325
Jaedong 276
firebathero 260
EffOrt 191
Mind 177
actioN 174
[ Show more ]
Pusan 169
Soulkey 97
Light 77
Rush 67
Aegong 64
sorry 63
Shinee 52
Sharp 38
JulyZerg 36
Hm[arnc] 34
ggaemo 32
ToSsGirL 29
scan(afreeca) 19
IntoTheRainbow 13
Noble 9
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Barracks 7
Movie 5
[sc1f]eonzerg 4
Dota 2
XaKoH 178
XcaliburYe78
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2456
shoxiejesuss1283
x6flipin138
allub116
Other Games
crisheroes255
Pyrionflax210
Lowko4
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL671
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 51
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota265
League of Legends
• Jankos1154
Upcoming Events
Universe Titan Cup
30m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
30m
Monday Night Weeklies
5h 30m
Replay Cast
13h 30m
Kung Fu Cup
1d
GSL
1d 23h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.