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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:56:08
August 14 2012 01:55 GMT
#301
On August 14 2012 10:48 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:44 AndAgain wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:41 Plexa wrote:
There are no words to describe how underwhelmed I am.


How can you talk about how whelmed you are without seeing actually good, experienced players play it.

If you can tell me one redeeming feature of this BR I will be impressed.


Uh, those destructible debree tower thingies are fucking impressive? -.-
Yeah, this battle report did not kick that much ass ^^
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Sumadin
Profile Joined August 2011
Denmark588 Posts
August 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#302
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.
The basic key to beating a priest is playing a deck that is terrible.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 14 2012 01:56 GMT
#303
On August 14 2012 10:55 trifecta wrote:
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On August 14 2012 10:53 ntssauce wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.


the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D!


so now toss has their broodlord

It does the DPS of a Roach, costs 300/300/6, and takes 75 seconds to build. Wouldn't get your hopes up.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 14 2012 01:57 GMT
#304
I'd say very little information can be gathered from that report, simply because both players just showed off some of the new units and a-moved around the map the rest of the time. You can't expect unsieged tanks + support to be this effective against a protoss who knows what they're doing.

The level of play was bad, plain and simple. Beta and real metagame development can't come soon enough.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:58:15
August 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#305
that looked rather silly. Something about the warhound and tempest just looked ridiculous to me. Combine that with the fact that the only thing that looks more OP than Protoss as a whole is the widow mine. It one shot the friggin oracle. Thats absurd
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 14 2012 01:58 GMT
#306
The thing I like about the tempest is that it gives a counter to the mass spine crawler zerg.
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ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#307
On August 14 2012 10:56 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:55 trifecta wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:53 ntssauce wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.


the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D!


so now toss has their broodlord

It does the DPS of a Roach, costs 300/300/6, and takes 75 seconds to build. Wouldn't get your hopes up.

And it doesn't make a ton of Zerglings which screw up the pathing of everything on the ground.
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 01:59:30
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#308
On August 14 2012 10:54 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.

He only made Stargate units to show them off. Against Terran Stargate play is really unlikely to be that prevalent. Blizzard definitely wants the Tempest to be the go-to unit against Zerg late-game though. The Mothership Core looks insane for Protoss though, it's so ridiculously versatile.


Except for the life of me I cant fined a good practical use for the Tempest at all in any matchup, it seems utterly retarded.

I mean really what are you going to do with the Tempest? Sit it back and slowly chip away at Broodlords? Great well that still suffers from the same weakenesses that Carriers have, they take a while to build and will take a long time to really kill anything unless you get a bunch of them and if you get a bunch of them you risk just being ran over by a round of Corruptors. COOL UNIT BLIZRD.

I actually like most of the units and think they are very useful except the Viper looks boring and gay to me and the Swarm Host is strong but it looks really boring as a "set & forget" unit.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#309
On August 14 2012 10:56 Sumadin wrote:
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.


-people wanted the mech army to be you know, a mech army, instead of bio v2 2012 hots

-the map feedback that they have received over the course of two years is just ignored?

-it was actually the developers. but yea they are not good players, so thats the only understandable point
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labbe
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1456 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#310
Wow, if Diablo III didn't make me lose every last bit of faith I had left in Blizzard, this certainly did. Blizzard have no clue what they're doing. GG.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
August 14 2012 01:59 GMT
#311
starting..
Jaedong.
recoil56
Profile Joined September 2011
United States18 Posts
August 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#312
LOL @ 16:35 Day9 talking about T excellent macro when the Terran is floating 3.5k minerals with 160/200 supply.

Anyways, on a related note, I honestly think the warhound is the last unknown for T. It is either going to make or break this composition when HOTS finally releases. So far, I just can't really get into it.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
August 14 2012 02:00 GMT
#313
Not raging like everyone else in the thread, but I'm wholly disappointed in Day9, hahahaha. "The Terran's macro is IMPECCABLE!" ... terran banking 4k at 160 supply rofl.
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1706 Posts
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#314
Once again, Blizzard shows they cant make maps
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NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:02:57
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#315
On August 14 2012 10:59 Kal_rA wrote:
starting..


what... where's the stream !?!?!?

edit: nvm, I am dumb ...
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26409 Posts
August 14 2012 02:01 GMT
#316
On August 14 2012 10:59 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:56 Sumadin wrote:
This is really what they promised. I am not sure what people are complaining about.

1. Mech is easier and as a style is significantly less micro-intensive than bio, also less reliant on harrasment. Working as intended.

2. Yes they showcase a new map, have you seen how many 1v1 melee maps WOL got, not actually counting the ladder ones? They don't just make ladder maps they actually makes quite a bit of maps before an expansion. And yes most of them are below ladder standards.

3. This is not pro players we are dealing with, it was players instructed in showing the new stuff. If you can't handle Bad play wait until the open beta.

Looking at this thread it sounds like people were expecting a GSL final. The dangers of hype i guess.


-people wanted the mech army to be you know, a mech army, instead of bio v2 2012 hots

-the map feedback that they have received over the course of two years is just ignored?

-it was actually the developers. but yea they are not good players, so thats the only understandable point

Did someone not say David Kim was playing? I mean he's meant to be high/master GM right? I'd guess he was instructed to show off the new gadgets but, Toss just looked helpless against 'immobile' mech.

I suppose Day9s job is to hype, but christ can he whore himself out more? Why can't he use his position of influence, and a bridge between the casual and competitive levels of Starcraft to actually lobby Blizzard for stuff that isn't ridiculous, is that too much to ask?
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45364 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-14 02:03:38
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#317
wtf it started early x.x

Fantastic.

I'll just wait for it to be posted/ the VOD. Silly to watch starting part of the way through.
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koffeinfrei
Profile Joined February 2011
26 Posts
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#318
Oh god i cant stand more casual shit anymore >.< GIVE US SOMETHING TO MICRO/MULTITASK BLIZZARD
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 14 2012 02:02 GMT
#319
On August 14 2012 10:59 BeeNu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 10:54 ZAiNs wrote:
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote:
Holy shit, Protoss looks awful!

Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol.

He only made Stargate units to show them off. Against Terran Stargate play is really unlikely to be that prevalent. Blizzard definitely wants the Tempest to be the go-to unit against Zerg late-game though. The Mothership Core looks insane for Protoss though, it's so ridiculously versatile.


Except for the life of me I cant fined a good practical use for the Tempest at all in any matchup, it seems utterly retarded.

I mean really what are you going to do with the Tempest? Sit it back and slowly chip away at Broodlords? Great well that still suffers from the same weakenesses that Carriers have, they take a while to build and will take a long time to really kill anything unless you get a bunch of them and if you get a bunch of them you risk just being ran over by a round of Corruptors. COOL UNIT BLIZRD.

I actually like most of the units and think they are very useful except the Viper looks boring and gay to me and the Swarm Host is strong but it looks really boring as a "set & forget" unit.

The numbers will be tweaked, look at the idea of it. Blizzard will tweak the Tempest for sure to make it good against BL Infestor Spine armies.
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
August 14 2012 02:03 GMT
#320
All I got from that borefest was: no carriers no buy.
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