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HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 17:15:35
September 03 2012 17:09 GMT
#1581
Oh my, HotS looks awful. Even WoL looks better for us spectators than what I have seen so far. Not a single P or T unit looks promising from a esport perspective. Only Z looks OK, and Z is still the best designed race in WoL.
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
September 03 2012 17:25 GMT
#1582
David Kim & Dustin Browder, was is your solution to the Protoss death ball?

hmmm

....

damn.

TERRAN DEATH BALL!
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#1583
On September 04 2012 02:09 HowardRoark wrote:
Oh my, HotS looks awful. Even WoL looks better for us spectators than what I have seen so far. Not a single P or T unit looks promising from a esport perspective. Only Z looks OK, and Z is still the best designed race in WoL.


"Z is the best designed race in WoL," just invalidated everything else you said. Terran has more flexibility, microable units, and the mirror matchup isn't completely retarded roach/infestor wars.
LOLingBuddha
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands697 Posts
September 03 2012 17:33 GMT
#1584
I just dont really like that for toss its more air focussed. i am random with toss being my most practiced race. I hardly ever built any air because i dont like it. always been more of a templar guy (not even collossus)

i dunno, ill wait and see how it turns out. since im random i get to play with all the new toys, but i have a feeling toss will be a lot less fulfilling to me in Hots
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 20:25:53
September 03 2012 20:25 GMT
#1585
On September 04 2012 02:09 HowardRoark wrote:
Oh my, HotS looks awful. Even WoL looks better for us spectators than what I have seen so far. Not a single P or T unit looks promising from a esport perspective. Only Z looks OK, and Z is still the best designed race in WoL.


Same thing people was saying when BW come out. Lurker ? dafaq is this unit.. its mega imba etc etc
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Quasi.In.Rem
Profile Joined September 2010
53 Posts
September 03 2012 23:05 GMT
#1586
On September 04 2012 02:33 Artimo wrote:
I just dont really like that for toss its more air focussed. i am random with toss being my most practiced race. I hardly ever built any air because i dont like it. always been more of a templar guy (not even collossus)

i dunno, ill wait and see how it turns out. since im random i get to play with all the new toys, but i have a feeling toss will be a lot less fulfilling to me in Hots


While there might be a focus, I highly doubt that they will only give Protoss new air units. While each race will be given their own set of unique toys, I can't imagine there wouldn't be some consistency in terms of what they each get. (for instance in BW, they all got air-to-air units). So I think that we're only seeing a subset of ideas, atm.
Disposition1989
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada270 Posts
September 03 2012 23:22 GMT
#1587
On September 04 2012 02:32 acrimoneyius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 02:09 HowardRoark wrote:
Oh my, HotS looks awful. Even WoL looks better for us spectators than what I have seen so far. Not a single P or T unit looks promising from a esport perspective. Only Z looks OK, and Z is still the best designed race in WoL.


"Z is the best designed race in WoL," just invalidated everything else you said. Terran has more flexibility, microable units, and the mirror matchup isn't completely retarded roach/infestor wars.

Zerg is completely reliant on the infestor and it is only useful every 75 seconds. So when you lose that, what now? Other than that, zerg seems pretty okay as far as design. As a side note, your point about zvz makes your argument invalidated. You're just so wrong : ) Terran flexibility, lololol. Flexible OPENINGS yes, after that not so much. But this isn't the balance thread is it?
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 03 2012 23:27 GMT
#1588
On September 04 2012 02:25 Nizzy wrote:
David Kim & Dustin Browder, was is your solution to the Protoss death ball?

hmmm

....

damn.

TERRAN DEATH BALL!


In this situation however it makes sense. Mech HAS to be in a deathball otherwise it just gets run over by everything.
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NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
September 03 2012 23:32 GMT
#1589
On September 04 2012 08:27 Qikz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 02:25 Nizzy wrote:
David Kim & Dustin Browder, was is your solution to the Protoss death ball?

hmmm

....

damn.

TERRAN DEATH BALL!


In this situation however it makes sense. Mech HAS to be in a deathball otherwise it just gets run over by everything.


In broodwar tanks were actually good enough that they could be used for space control.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
September 03 2012 23:58 GMT
#1590
On September 04 2012 08:32 NATO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 08:27 Qikz wrote:
On September 04 2012 02:25 Nizzy wrote:
David Kim & Dustin Browder, was is your solution to the Protoss death ball?

hmmm

....

damn.

TERRAN DEATH BALL!


In this situation however it makes sense. Mech HAS to be in a deathball otherwise it just gets run over by everything.


In broodwar tanks were actually good enough that they could be used for space control.


Well yeah, but in TvP you still had to have a pretty big ball of them or you'd just lose your army. Mines helped defend your flanks and vultures tanked.
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