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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:49 Fishgle wrote: agree 100%. he could have just made B.Hellions and BoxRobots, and it would have played out like a less micro-intensive bio. Warhounds are basically bigger Marauders ._. EDIT: with less micro | ||
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Pobearo
United States351 Posts
Oracles just look stupid. Stupid, stupid unit. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
Indeed. Also the mothership core looks beyond OP. | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:49 Fishgle wrote: agree 100%. he could have just made B.Hellions and BoxRobots, and it would have played out like a less micro-intensive bio. WTF IS THIS. Mech is about positional play. Slow and precise. None of this bullshit. You fucked up blizzard. So shitty. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:49 trifecta wrote: Yeah, they need to invite some pros to do these things. Hard to tell how it's going to shake out without pros playing. SC2 devs should be forced to watch every major tournament VOD b/c it doesn't seem like they're watching/watching the same game. Watch the recent David Kim interview, they watch all the major tournaments. | ||
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Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:47 Sroobz wrote: My god. The part at 13:50. Are we watching bronze players? Walking unsieged maxed 200/200 through the toss base. 10 seconds go by. Protoss doesnt attack. Terran finally sieges in between 2 bases on the most random spot. Toss attack literally the second terran sieges. WTF is this rofl They are trying to show how mech is viable in hots by making best possible engagements for terran. As in.... protoss attacking with 15 zealots up the ramp where there are 15 battle helions, making mass stalker vs mass warhound and siege tanks, making 1 immortal 0 archons whole game, no colossus to kill battle helions so that zealots can roll over tanks. I like widow mines tho, warhound seems and looks awful, recall thing is op. | ||
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QTIP.
United States2113 Posts
Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol. | ||
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AndAgain
United States2621 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:48 Plexa wrote: If you can tell me one redeeming feature of this BR I will be impressed. I think a lot of interesting things can be done with mothership core, oracle, and tempest. We just haven't seen it in that game because of the low level of play. BW would look like garbage too if it were played by a couple of bad players without a developed metagame. | ||
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nAgeDitto
United States428 Posts
Although I was excited to see DaKim lose in a BR. (No hate to david, just noticed that it was the first time he lost... as far as I know) | ||
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ntssauce
Germany750 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote: Holy shit, Protoss looks awful! Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol. the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D! | ||
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Fishgle
United States2174 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:50 Plexa wrote: Warhounds are basically bigger Marauders ._. EDIT: with less micro Bio :: marines for the zealots, marauders for the stalkers Mech:: BHellions for Zealots, Boxxys for the Stalkers Bio: requires micro because theyre squishy Mech: requires no micro because the have tons of HP Bio: fast building, small, cheap units means you need lots of production and good macro Mech: slow building, heavy in supply units mean you dont need to worry about macro | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:51 QTIP. wrote: Holy shit, Protoss looks awful! Granted the Protoss player played awful. But if Play HOTS means make Stargate units, that is just... lol. He only made Stargate units to show them off. Against Terran Stargate play is really unlikely to be that prevalent. Blizzard definitely wants the Tempest to be the go-to unit against Zerg late-game though. The Mothership Core looks insane for Protoss though, it's so ridiculously versatile. | ||
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Baio
112 Posts
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JeanLuc
Canada377 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:48 Plexa wrote: If you can tell me one redeeming feature of this BR I will be impressed. Out of curiousity, do you dislike the way the game is being demoed or (I'm guessing) the game itself. | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
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trifecta
United States6795 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:53 ntssauce wrote: the tempest seems interesting... you can lay siege to a terran/zerg like terran does in TvT.... just camp with your army under the tempest and slowly pull the opp appart :D! so now toss has their broodlord | ||
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Horseballs
United States721 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:53 AndAgain wrote: I think a lot of interesting things can be done with mothership core, oracle, and tempest. We just haven't seen it in that game because of the low level of play. BW would look like garbage too if it were played by a couple of bad players without a developed metagame. Go back and watch 2000-2003 era BW. It's still fun as hell. Even if the players have bad macro and less refined builds. | ||
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paintfive
785 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26855 Posts
On August 14 2012 10:48 Plexa wrote: If you can tell me one redeeming feature of this BR I will be impressed. Hm, I can try. I think the Tempest is kind of reasonably interesting if it's done correctly, having a kind of unique role as a really long range sniper, I'm thinking of it's potential to chip away at Brood balls and stuff. Also I guess, perhaps the Beta will showcase a less ridiculous build of the game. Anyhow what I dislike. 1. Mothership core comes far, far too early for what it apparently does. Goodbye pressuring Protoss in the early game. I essentially hate anything that basically gives you a free, blind pass to transition to the mid/lategame after taking an early expansion. This seems to serve like the buffed Queen, but even more potent. 2. Oracle was a cool idea, I get what they were thinking and I like some of its utility (i.e the cloaking field thing). It's role as a harassment unit just doesn't really mesh with me though, it's the equivalent of injecting for Zergs, nothing interesting or strategically interesting 3. New Terran mech is, retarded. Protoss' old compositions of choice in dealing with mech, i.e upgraded chargelots and immortals, with archons just melts, absolutely melts. There is no positional nuance to it either, part of the beauty and challenge of well executed mech. Fucking hell. | ||
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