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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 19:17:07
July 11 2012 19:16 GMT
#21
Help you decide? For what?

The lurker was in the game, they tried and wanted to make it work but couldn't. Most likely due to a very different game engine.

Seriously, let it go.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
July 11 2012 19:17 GMT
#22
On July 12 2012 04:12 Antylamon wrote:
The Lurker would NOT break up deathball play. Toss would just use obs to detect and Colossi to outrange.

Plus, Lurker would be Hive tech, ruining its BW purpose of delaying the game until Hive tech. Ultralisks and Brood Lords overshadow it completely, and the Lurker would barely see any use except for containing, harassing, etc.

Nobody seems to understand what it means for Lurkers to be Hive tech -.-

People barely know anything about game design. Their pseudo-reasoning is more emotional than rational and since it is the tradition in TL to revere SC:BW up to an absurd point, these people are just copying what the others are doing.
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
July 11 2012 19:17 GMT
#23
the only thing swarm host is better is the look
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
July 11 2012 19:18 GMT
#24
On July 12 2012 04:15 MNdakota wrote:
Why not have the Lurker back but with the Swarm Host model? Would look pretty sick. Spines coming out of those holes on their backs. Ew, gross. I like it!


This is actually a brilliant idea. the Swarm Host model is excellent, and I think it would be a cool Lurker.
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Malpractice.248
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States734 Posts
July 11 2012 19:19 GMT
#25
tbh I'm kinda sick of the sc1 talk. bring back reaver, lurker, goliath, old hydras etc...
its time to move on, try new things, swarm host isnt even out yet and everyone that I've read from mlg said its a sweet/strong unit
Woj
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
July 11 2012 19:20 GMT
#26
Thread seems a little premature considering HoTS isn't even out and BW has been out a little while...
AlgeriaT
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2197 Posts
July 11 2012 19:20 GMT
#27
What's up with zerg units being so cute in SC2? Ultras already look like cuddly little puppies with a mask on, and this thing looks like freaking Strawberry Shortcake only blue. Zerg is supposed to be badass damnit
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MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
July 11 2012 19:22 GMT
#28
This thread is making me really sad. I loved my lurkers from BW. But I don't think they are ever coming back.
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
July 11 2012 19:23 GMT
#29
I think for ESPORTS Lurkers simply win out regardless of their existence in BW because of how they work. People get infinitely more excited watching lurker traps happen than the slow chipping away of a defense by summoned units.
Sup.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
July 11 2012 19:24 GMT
#30
Nobody better bust out the 'overlap' argument because it will just be used against you since swarm host is basically another brood lord.

Lurker should come back, and then make detection less of a commodity for P and T (add back obs, delay scan).
Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
July 11 2012 19:25 GMT
#31
Swarm Host can atack air too, and I love swarm-effect of zerg armies. So voting for Swarm Hosts
GDbushido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States926 Posts
July 11 2012 19:26 GMT
#32
On July 12 2012 04:24 0neder wrote:
Nobody better bust out the 'overlap' argument because it will just be used against you since swarm host is basically another brood lord.

Lurker should come back, and then make detection less of a commodity for P and T (add back obs, delay scan).
I'm not sure what "add back obs" means, but if you're talking about making detection even less available for protoss...wow.
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wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 19:27:23
July 11 2012 19:26 GMT
#33
On July 12 2012 04:03 Greggle wrote:
People really think the Lurker model looks better? I always thought it looked lazy and shitty. It just looks like a blob of zergy shit. It looked much better in BW.


I agree the lurker model in sc2 is pretty bad.

The swarm host model in game is fucking ugly but when you look at pictures like in the OP it looks relatively 'good'.

In game swarm host looks like that pokemon parasect, which is fucking ridiculous and stupid.
procrastibation
Profile Joined July 2012
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 19:28:09
July 11 2012 19:27 GMT
#34
The lurker shits all over the swarm host. lurker actually have an attack and is micro-able. swarm host is just another easy to use no control needed unit that will have no trouble fitting into the sc2 hall of fame with the colossus, marauder, and destructible rocks.

but srsly swarm host is totally dumb. all it does is spawn a broodling once every few seconds, which takes 2+ seconds to walk over the the enemy units to start attacking. idk i mean unless you're opponent is retarded or doesn't know how to use sentries, they will just run away or block the broodlings with force fields.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
July 11 2012 19:29 GMT
#35
On July 12 2012 04:17 AgentChaos wrote:
the only thing swarm host is better is the look


Really? I think it kinda looks like that bug Pokemon with that giant hump on its back. ><"

Honestly, I'd prefer the Lurker. It was one of the few units that defined the Zerg race in BW along with the Zergling and Hydralisk (in my opinion) so I really don't want to see it go.

In terms of the abilities, Zerg in SC2 already has those kinds of "swarming" units (lings and roaches) and Broodlords already does what the Swarm Host does. It seems a little redundant to add to that. I rather Zerg have some AoE units that force more positioning on the Zerg's part and more micro from the Protoss (mainly) and Terran. Lurker drops are another thing that can be brought back into the game too and it'll be nice to see more harass options open other than runbys and late game Infestor drops.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
July 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#36
I have trypophobia so.....Lurker!
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
July 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#37
On July 12 2012 04:20 Woj wrote:
Thread seems a little premature considering HoTS isn't even out and BW has been out a little while...

You must be really old here to consider 14 years of BW as "a little awhile"
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Peqqz
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany201 Posts
July 11 2012 19:32 GMT
#38
Sawrm host is in my eyes way to strong...
first we make expand, then we defend it.
wcr.4fun
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium686 Posts
July 11 2012 19:33 GMT
#39
On July 12 2012 04:12 Antylamon wrote:
The Lurker would NOT break up deathball play. Toss would just use obs to detect and Colossi to outrange.

Plus, Lurker would be Hive tech, ruining its BW purpose of delaying the game until Hive tech. Ultralisks and Brood Lords overshadow it completely, and the Lurker would barely see any use except for containing, harassing, etc.

Nobody seems to understand what it means for Lurkers to be Hive tech -.-


why would the lurker be hive tech? You think blizzard would be that retarded? Hey sup zerg we got a cool unit for you which is good in the beginning of the game. Wanna know the downside? You can only get it after 15 minutes!! Because FUCK YOU zerg.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
July 11 2012 19:39 GMT
#40
imo swarm host has so much potential since it can attack air,

but oh well lurker is of course the beast. just 2 lurker droped boom your entire mineral lines dead
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