EPTI'm not going to defend the organizers for not discouraging people from playing in both, and there were more than likely decisions that made it harder than it had to be, but saying "I had to play for twice as long as I normally do when I enter tournaments like this, and it took a long time," is just stating the obvious.
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
I'm not going to defend the organizers for not discouraging people from playing in both, and there were more than likely decisions that made it harder than it had to be, but saying "I had to play for twice as long as I normally do when I enter tournaments like this, and it took a long time," is just stating the obvious. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On June 14 2012 08:54 SmokeMonster wrote: I don't know why you keeping calling me fanboy. I am not defending anyone in particular. I'm just saying how ridiculous you sound. He took some time to write his evaluation of the subject at hand. You took no time to write "You are a retard." I think we are misappropriating the ridiculousness here. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On June 14 2012 08:30 Mr Showtime wrote: Vibe was impressive. But if you watched IdrA's series against Daisuki, you'd see how ugly it was. Never before has it been more apparent that someone (being IdrA) was completely exhausted during a series. I want to echo this. That series was really, really ugly. Something like 'donate all infestors, get entire army chain-fungaled to death, build two Infestation Pits, go slow-Roach Nydus all-in, cancel Baneling Nest and die to ling/bling all-in' ugly. | ||
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KookyMonster
United States311 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:10 deth2munkies wrote: Honestly, what the hell would you expect to happen when playing in 2 tournaments? 2 tournaments = double the matches of one tournament, so if you play for 6-8 hours for MLG normally, then you can extrapolate that to 12-16 doing 2 tournaments at once. You're having to be in the same round in 2 tournaments at once, which means you will most likely have to play them back to back to back, it's not hard to forsee what you're getting into: it's obviously going to be very difficult and draining. I'm not going to defend the organizers for not discouraging people from playing in both, and there were more than likely decisions that made it harder than it had to be, but saying "I had to play for twice as long as I normally do when I enter tournaments like this, and it took a long time," is just stating the obvious. It's not a time issue. He's not complaining about playing for an extended period per se, it's about the timing of the matches relative to one another. Players being called to a match in Tournament B while playing a match in Tournament A shouldn't happen. Matches being scheduled to run until 3:30 AM - Illusion finished his matches on day 1 at 2:30, and was supposed to play Idra after - is not ok, and it's doubly not ok when that's on the first day of the tournament. The organizers probably could have pulled it off, and going in all the players thought they would. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9674 Posts
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TheDougler
Canada8304 Posts
On June 14 2012 07:55 SilverStar wrote: Like when EG Management acted pissy because ostojiyi got a free map win over puma? I didn't see you complain, although otterareneart posted on reddit that it wasn't eg culture. lol Here is the post: On June 11 2012 08:43 SilverStar wrote: That quote from ranged reminded me of something. So just for the record here is EG statement last time Ostojiyi got a 1 map walkover against puma: and on the question "don't tell me that you wouldn't want your player take an advantage like that in such an important match." http://reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/rbmde/s_gosuostojiy_defeats_puma_21_to_advance_to_pool/c44jc1c http://reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/rbmde/s_gosuostojiy_defeats_puma_21_to_advance_to_pool/c44jhjl Good to see EG living up to their word. Ha... Wow, yeah that's actually fucked. I bolded the parts I thought were especially hilarious. | ||
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On June 14 2012 09:27 TheDougler wrote: Ha... Wow, yeah that's actually fucked. I bolded the parts I thought were especially hilarious. Are you for serious? The two situations aren't equivalent, and neither are related to the topic. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
If someone actually cared enough to look them up, I bet a fair amount of pros have had to prioritize which tournament to attend. I remember Socke missed out on an MLG either this year or last year to do the WCG qualifiers for Germany I think. Was in some interview. Naniwa missed last MLG because he played in GSL. Obviously a ro16/8 spot is 1000000000000000x better than an MLG, but its all about prioritizing. Which tournament is more important? WCS? Start preparing for that one then, instead of just assuming you can play both fine. Especially in Idra's case, considering how poorly he performs lately. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
On June 14 2012 15:11 Cloud9157 wrote: I like how he calls MLG "one of the major events outside of the premeire non korean league". Because there is only like, 3 MLGs this year, right? lolololololololololololololol If someone actually cared enough to look them up, I bet a fair amount of pros have had to prioritize which tournament to attend. I remember Socke missed out on an MLG either this year or last year to do the WCG qualifiers for Germany I think. Was in some interview. Naniwa missed last MLG because he played in GSL. Obviously a ro16/8 spot is 1000000000000000x better than an MLG, but its all about prioritizing. Which tournament is more important? WCS? Start preparing for that one then, instead of just assuming you can play both fine. Especially in Idra's case, considering how poorly he performs lately. Aren't you missing the fact that Socke and Naniwa are not from the US? Kinda hard to be physically at two places at the same time, no? Last time I checked, MLG and WCS US happened to be at the same venue | ||
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
they could have just made a smaller prize pool (like half) and get an extra venue instead and then idra would probably have cried too because "there are so many tournaments in such a short time and there is no way to prepare for all of them properly. And the prize money is way too low too...." If it is too much for him to play in both tournaments at the same time then he should just focus on the NA finals where he actually has a chance (considering the player pool) instead of competing in MLG too where he doesn't make it through the open bracket and feels too stressed to do well in the WCS  | ||
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mambar
United States841 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On June 14 2012 15:22 rotegirte wrote: Aren't you missing the fact that Socke and Naniwa are not from the US? Kinda hard to be physically at two places at the same time, no? Last time I checked, MLG and WCS US happened to be at the same venue That is true, but it also goes back to prioritizing. WCS sounds like it was more important to Idra than MLG, but how did he honestly expect to be able to do both at the same time? | ||
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Clazziquai10
Singapore1949 Posts
![[image loading]](http://evilgeniuses.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/idra-mlgraleigh.jpg) Doesn't it look like he's playing with his left hand on the mouse here? | ||
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jsemmens
United States439 Posts
I think that it's best to use the mantra that simpler is better. Instead of trying to implement a very complicated system where players manage to play both brackets, the tournament organizers could have saved themselves alot of headaches (from the organizational standpoint, at least) if they just ran tournaments on two separate weekends, OR ran the entire WCS tournament on the thursday before or monday after MLG to avoid confusion. This doesn't mean that players shouldn't be responsible for managing their own schedules appropriately, but, at the same time, tournaments should try to make things easier for the players rather than harder. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On June 14 2012 15:29 Clazziquai10 wrote: I know this is totally random but: Doesn't it look like he's playing with his left hand on the mouse here? Obviously the picture was just reversed. Look at the game itself. | ||
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Dox
Australia1199 Posts
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Rednaxela_19
United States150 Posts
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Idra, while he has a history of whining makes some clear and concise points about the(lack of) organization of the tournament organizers. Blizzard from what it seems outsourced everything to MLG and in this case(the terrible organization) lies on MLGs fault(O think they filled the event too much with so many stuff).If MLG couldn't handle the 2 tournaments then they should have declined the job. I dont even understand why this thread turned out this crappy... | ||
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