Heart of the Swarm Unit Stats - Page 23

On June 10 2012 11:47 Fig wrote:
I think people are overlooking the fact that the attack ability for the mothership core is temporary. It costs a huge 75 energy and only lasts 20 seconds. Energy regens at 0.5625 per second, so it takes 133 seconds to build up that much energy. And do you really think it will help against mutas? They will just fly away after taking 1 hit and then return after 20 seconds are up. That ability won't be used nearly as much as the Energize one. I mean 25 energy to bring any nearby unit/structure up to full energy? Just doing that on one HT would hold off a drop or mutas better than the energy cannon. I can't see the cannon ability ever being used in pro play, since they should always have a high templar near the nexus in the late game, and a sentry near it in the early game.

On June 10 2012 06:35 CakeSauc3 wrote:
You have to be kidding me.

Protoss got shafted? I think Protoss got the biggest buff of the 3 races! So much so, that I'm going to switch from Terran to Protoss as soon as HOTS comes out (though this obviously depends on the changes that happen between now and release.)

Sure, I can maybe see why you don't like the Tempest. It's going to be a very micro intensive, situation specific unit. However, it's certainly going to be more useful than the carrier, which was never worth the money for building it at all.

Other than the Tempest though, everything else Protoss just got is amazing. The mothership core is going to make FE in PvP 100% viable - try 4gating when I have a nexus that does 60 damage a shot! Or when I can just FF your units away almost unlimitlessly with sentries that keep on being recharged!

PvZ just got a huge buff... you mean I can move out against a Zerg player with an immortal/sentry push and, if it doesn't work, I can just recall before a million lings kill off my units for free? That's amazing!

In every matchup, the oracle is going to play a huge key part. Sure, it can harass with entomb, which is absolutely going to do damage. Think about recharging your oracle with mana from mothership core, then rushing across the map to completely shut down mining on both the nat and the main? And then return to your base, recharge, and cloak your 2 base timing push as you move out? Tell me that's not strong.

The one thing that many Protoss players will complain about now is that colos can be abducted, that zealots can be killed by battle hellions, that the death ball is going to be broken up. But if you realize what HOTS is doing here, you'll notice that Protoss can now be flexible and DOESN'T DEPEND ON the deathball anymore.

HOTS will change the game to be very very similar to BW - battles will be long and drawn out (as spellcasters/positional units/more defenders advantage have been added to every race, especially so to protoss), there will be many more micro intensive units (toss gets oracle+tempest here, which both are very effective but depend on micro) and as a result the deathball vs. deathball style play is going to fall out of style rapidly.

Due to this fact, the colossus will play a different role in this game. Don't stress too much about the colossus - you'll now have many more options for punishing your opponent than simply abusing the traditional a-move noob unit.

The only race that's going to get shafted here is Terran - and that's because the other two races were shafted in WoL. Mark my words, you're going to enjoy playing Protoss and Zerg a lot more in HOTS - so much in fact that I'm inclined to switch races in order to get the most out of the new game. I can't wait to play Toss in a few months :D

On June 10 2012 06:32 Trevo wrote:
Seems my idea is being accepted here so i made a topic in blizzard forum:

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5753735539#1

- Raven
Seeker missile removed from the game.
new skill Widow mine they can target air and ground units and burrowed into the ground.
Why this change? widow mine will be the new seeker missile but with map control when burrow the mine. only will be invisible when burrowed and will be detonate more quick than is now.
Why this will not be Overpower? well look seeker missile right now but give them the option to burrow like spider mines.

-Thor
PDD is now a thor skill with a new animation for the thors.
Why this change? now they can counter better magic box mutalisks.
Why this will not be strong? Thor are now countered by Vipers late game and now they can be infested easily.

On June 10 2012 11:11 Roe wrote:
i wonder why they picked 22 as its range, seems random

On June 10 2012 17:13 Sea_Food wrote:
How much cargo space is one warhound?

Probes and SCV are mechanical, I want to see warhound drops vs protoss and terran.

On June 09 2012 18:38 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Wow, the warhound is such a good tank for 2 supply o.o Not really liking the 3 food units for Zerg. I wonder if they tried to make swarm host a 2 or even 1 food unit, to make zerg more swarmy? Warhounds take pretty long to build though. Warhound's attack vs normal isn't so bad actually! 2 warhounds is slightly cheaper than a thor and you do 46 damage instead of 60. Food wise, warhounds are AMAZING. Like holy shit, way better than marauders. Warhounds are so food efficient! Of course they're a bit big for 2 supply, so that'll help keep their dps "densitiy" from getting too high. Range 7 is amazing too. They are pretty fucking fast as well. So warhound has energy bar or no? And the haywire missile is 1 attack of 30 damage? Seems like it was multiple hits by its effect. I'm guessing Immortal's hardened shields will reduce it to 10. I wonder if it can be blocked by PDD. I did some math and 1 immortal vs 2 warhounds is close -- not sure which wins. But even if the 2 warhounds lose, it's not by much and they are only 50 min 50 gas more expensive. Not like you wouldn't have support anyways. With ultralisks having burrow charge now, i wonder if frenzy is still necessary to stop them from getting strike canon'd?

Seems like adding some warhounds in early/mid game bio TvP is a good idea (until upgrades make marauders better). I mean, look at the fucking DPS against normal units (zealots). It's even better than marauders vs stalkers. It's also heavier on gas, so you may want to build some warhounds if you have too much. Maybe you could even add them in late game to get rid of some gas. They're pretty fast as well. It's got 7 range too, not 6! It's also got a lot more HP.


Wow 6 range is interesting on spider mine... so can you shoot them down like dragoons vs spidermines in BW? Or are they much faster now (seems like it)? Does this mean that they really need colossi or some other unit to clear out these mines? (Wow if so, that he can't run/blink stalkers around with an observer to clear mines, then these mines are gonna be awesome!)