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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On August 17 2012 04:26 Iyerbeth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 20:09 mooogles wrote:
Sky
(1) Auto Inject on Queens (Does not select queens when injecting)
(2) Map-hack (looks at map when not explored)
(3) game played on Aug 16 2012 at 5:48:14AM EST on US Server against Rem.696.
(4) Replay is uploaded to: http://drop.sc/239392
(5) A video with explanation can be found at: http://www.twitch.tv/remsc2/b/328814582
(6) Abused me after game via private messages. Bad Mannered in Game as well.
(7) SC2Rank list: http://sc2ranks.com/us/3500712/Sky
Thanks
Rem Just wanted to say (watched the video) the part where you were showing the second auto-injection you said that he managed to inject without looking. Whilst he certainly was using a hack for it (as you pointed out, they were never selected and it was always perfect) it is possible to cast injection by the minimap so you don't have to be looking at the Hatch or the Queen to inject. Still, definite hacker, just thought I'd point that out though for reference.
Ah I see. Thanks for the knowledge. Will keep that in mind in future.
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On August 13 2012 22:26 Doodsmack wrote:
I created a support ticket with blizz asking why they don't ban GM hackers like tricky more quickly. I linked the OP's video. They didn't answer the question about GM hackers but they said they can't rely on videos because they have the potential to be edited. So yeah, we'll have to stick to replays.
All replays used in the videos appear just under it. You should have linked those instead of the video. The purpose of the videos is to make it easier to expose for the community, but when the time comes to report to Blizzard, I always only use replay evidence.
On August 13 2012 09:49 area51Hellokitty wrote:so is lgintel a map hacker? http://drop.sc/237274 almost no scouting... and blind attempt to counter, but low apm?
I'll look into it!
On August 16 2012 20:09 mooogles wrote:
Sky
(1) Auto Inject on Queens (Does not select queens when injecting)
(2) Map-hack (looks at map when not explored)
(3) game played on Aug 16 2012 at 5:48:14AM EST on US Server against Rem.696.
(4) Replay is uploaded to: http://drop.sc/239392
(5) A video with explanation can be found at: http://www.twitch.tv/remsc2/b/328814582
(6) Abused me after game via private messages. Bad Mannered in Game as well.
(7) SC2Rank list: http://sc2ranks.com/us/3500712/Sky
Thanks
Rem
Diamond player so I won't be looking into it, but if you think he does indeed hack please report him in game and via email at hacks@blizzard.com
Update:
Hacker: LGIntel
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3191146/1/LGIntel/
http://drop.sc/231420
In this replay, the first inject at 5:14 is not legit, as the unit selection did not correspond with the inject that was going on. Unfortunately, the queen in this replay only remained alive for a few minutes so it is not as obvious as what is about to come.
http://drop.sc/231427
http://drop.sc/231426
http://drop.sc/231398
In those 3 replays, LGIntel uses auto-injects for everything past the 7 minute mark (realized it upon watching the replays again). The queens are never selected, yet still performs perfect injects during the 20+ minute games.
http://drop.sc/237274
This replay alone is suspicious but not enough to conclude anything off it. Though, considering the 4 other replays in which auto-injects were used, I believe that maphack was being used here.
5 :42 : backs his units to his base while he was planning to 4 gate which is fishy
In this replay, Intel does not bother scouting his opponent gas nor how much energy was saved on the nexus to know if he was getting 4 gated or not. Based on that, I’d say that there is no logic reason to explain why Intel backed his units off to fend off a 4 gate, while he was 4 gating himself.
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So I play OnTheThrone - not knowing he's pretty infamous in this thread for hacking. He opens 6 pool, doesn't scout positions, sends lings to me, I wall off, make zealots, counterattack and I wind up winning. He rages at me because I play Protoss and he feels that is really bad of me to do because he feels Protoss is easy. So we trade barbs and he wants to PvP me. So we PvP on Antiga, he doesn't scout once with a probe, zealot, observer, and then he perfectly positions his army to counter my armies movements which he cannot see. Then he says that I should be ashamed because he doesn't play Protoss as his main and Protoss isn't fair for balance.
So a hacker complains that Protoss is unfair for balance... while he maphacks gaining the best possible advantage one could for. I ask him about this and he gives some pretty funny responses, saying that he bought the 'OnTheThrone' account two weeks ago off of Ebay and that he is a victim because he's going to be banned.
Hilarious.
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http://drop.sc/240155
His ID: ESGSorc.203
He is master with 50apm.
I first played against his other account, when I beat him he said he wanted re-game but I had to wait for him to log into the account he used in the replay.
He is using map hacks. He knows all I do. He even says "you are going collossus" without even seing the tech. When you watch the replay from his point of view you can see that he is watching at my base like he can see it when he should not be able to. I still beat him.
Edit: I just watched the first replay when I played against his other account and he has map hacks on it too.
http://drop.sc/240162
His second account ID: Zekoja
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On August 19 2012 06:31 Bloody wrote:http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/32855044/file.html His ID: ESGSorc I first played against his other account, when I beat him he said he wanted re-game but I had to wait for him to log into the account he used in the replay. He is using map hacks. He knows all I do. He even says "you are going collossus" without even seing the tech. When you watch the replay from his point of view you can see that he is watching at my base like he can see it when he should not be able to.
Could you upload on drop.sc please. It makes it way easier to compile replays for me.
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On August 19 2012 06:36 ZweiGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 06:31 Bloody wrote:http://www9.zippyshare.com/v/32855044/file.html His ID: ESGSorc I first played against his other account, when I beat him he said he wanted re-game but I had to wait for him to log into the account he used in the replay. He is using map hacks. He knows all I do. He even says "you are going collossus" without even seing the tech. When you watch the replay from his point of view you can see that he is watching at my base like he can see it when he should not be able to. Could you upload on drop.sc please. It makes it way easier to compile replays for me.
Already confirmed hacker.
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lol great videos just cant unhear the constant heavy "UHMMM" usage..
i will never understand cheaters, they should all be shot on sight.
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On August 17 2012 06:27 ZweiGaming wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 22:26 Doodsmack wrote:
I created a support ticket with blizz asking why they don't ban GM hackers like tricky more quickly. I linked the OP's video. They didn't answer the question about GM hackers but they said they can't rely on videos because they have the potential to be edited. So yeah, we'll have to stick to replays. All replays used in the videos appear just under it. You should have linked those instead of the video. The purpose of the videos is to make it easier to expose for the community, but when the time comes to report to Blizzard, I always only use replay evidence. I'll look into it! Show nested quote +On August 16 2012 20:09 mooogles wrote:
Sky
(1) Auto Inject on Queens (Does not select queens when injecting)
(2) Map-hack (looks at map when not explored)
(3) game played on Aug 16 2012 at 5:48:14AM EST on US Server against Rem.696.
(4) Replay is uploaded to: http://drop.sc/239392
(5) A video with explanation can be found at: http://www.twitch.tv/remsc2/b/328814582
(6) Abused me after game via private messages. Bad Mannered in Game as well.
(7) SC2Rank list: http://sc2ranks.com/us/3500712/Sky
Thanks
Rem Diamond player so I won't be looking into it, but if you think he does indeed hack please report him in game and via email at hacks@blizzard.com Update: Hacker: LGIntel http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3191146/1/LGIntel/http://drop.sc/231420In this replay, the first inject at 5:14 is not legit, as the unit selection did not correspond with the inject that was going on. Unfortunately, the queen in this replay only remained alive for a few minutes so it is not as obvious as what is about to come. http://drop.sc/231427http://drop.sc/231426http://drop.sc/231398In those 3 replays, LGIntel uses auto-injects for everything past the 7 minute mark (realized it upon watching the replays again). The queens are never selected, yet still performs perfect injects during the 20+ minute games. http://drop.sc/237274This replay alone is suspicious but not enough to conclude anything off it. Though, considering the 4 other replays in which auto-injects were used, I believe that maphack was being used here. 5 :42 : backs his units to his base while he was planning to 4 gate which is fishy In this replay, Intel does not bother scouting his opponent gas nor how much energy was saved on the nexus to know if he was getting 4 gated or not. Based on that, I’d say that there is no logic reason to explain why Intel backed his units off to fend off a 4 gate, while he was 4 gating himself.
Wow he was hacking against you even in intra-team practice T.T That's just sad.
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Ok so i might have faced a maphacker here is his name FlyingirOn the game looks pretty solid but at 9:15 seconds he knows when to exactly bring back the prism when my army leaves which is really weird but could be just for the hell of it, at about 14:53 he looks at my ramp for no reason, were he might be able to see my army goes back and forth for 2 seconds, at 15:24 he has a chance at blinking into my main and doesn't but as soon as my army leaves my base he blinks in. Now the thing is this if i did have my army he'd lose 13 stalker which doesn't make any sense to me at high masters play... idk here is the rep.
http://drop.sc/240292
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On August 19 2012 13:41 Astronomy74 wrote:Ok so i might have faced a maphacker here is his name FlyingirOn the game looks pretty solid but at 9:15 seconds he knows when to exactly bring back the prism when my army leaves which is really weird but could be just for the hell of it, at about 14:53 he looks at my ramp for no reason, were he might be able to see my army goes back and forth for 2 seconds, at 15:24 he has a chance at blinking into my main and doesn't but as soon as my army leaves my base he blinks in. Now the thing is this if i did have my army he'd lose 13 stalker which doesn't make any sense to me at high masters play... idk here is the rep. http://drop.sc/240292
- Scouts the NW corner of his base, fully scouts his natural, and scouts his own third for possible proxies (very thorough for a maphacker).
- His 9:15 prism is directly after he secures his base ramp with sentry and zealot. Somewhat unlikely to be tied to your army leaving. Highly likely to be a priority queue in his mind: 1) Secure base to forcefield if he comes knocking (I don't know where his army is!!) 2) Do more harassment with warp prism
- 14:53 is odd as a player oddity, but not suspect at all. He pans camera to reset rally for building observer (to make sure he'll be ready to blink back in as soon as it gets there // snipe from lowground enemy units/observer. He pans to an area that contains no enemy units, shifts slightly to right and immediately moves his robo rally there.
- 15:24 He's simply trying to spread his army out to get more of them in on a single blink. Minerals are blocking his position at 15:24 getting a blink in for most of his stalkers so repositions.
No evidence of foul play there.
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ok thank you just making sure.
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On August 19 2012 14:19 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2012 13:41 Astronomy74 wrote:Ok so i might have faced a maphacker here is his name FlyingirOn the game looks pretty solid but at 9:15 seconds he knows when to exactly bring back the prism when my army leaves which is really weird but could be just for the hell of it, at about 14:53 he looks at my ramp for no reason, were he might be able to see my army goes back and forth for 2 seconds, at 15:24 he has a chance at blinking into my main and doesn't but as soon as my army leaves my base he blinks in. Now the thing is this if i did have my army he'd lose 13 stalker which doesn't make any sense to me at high masters play... idk here is the rep. http://drop.sc/240292 - Scouts the NW corner of his base, fully scouts his natural, and scouts his own third for possible proxies (very thorough for a maphacker).
- His 9:15 prism is directly after he secures his base ramp with sentry and zealot. Somewhat unlikely to be tied to your army leaving. Highly likely to be a priority queue in his mind: 1) Secure base to forcefield if he comes knocking (I don't know where his army is!!) 2) Do more harassment with warp prism
- 14:53 is odd as a player oddity, but not suspect at all. He pans camera to reset rally for building observer (to make sure he'll be ready to blink back in as soon as it gets there // snipe from lowground enemy units/observer. He pans to an area that contains no enemy units, shifts slightly to right and immediately moves his robo rally there.
- 15:24 He's simply trying to spread his army out to get more of them in on a single blink. Minerals are blocking his position at 15:24 getting a blink in for most of his stalkers so repositions.
No evidence of foul play there.
I watched this replay too. Also I did not find evidence that would suggest hacking. He was thorough checking typical proxy locations not only once but twice in the early game. Of course it's odd to see fairly high player who does not know how to chain blink (at 15:24 point he tries to get all of his stalkers up with one blink and one third of his army does not get up. When he retreats he does it again, but this time he is 'lucky' and only 2 stalkers are left behind).
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Found another person hacking.
Real: Europe
League: Master
Name: MartinCz
Here's the replay: http://drop.sc/240650
I am now going to post on the official forums on Blizzard as well and ask why still hackers are in the game.
Note: This guy begins hacking after a short while - watch his vision circle and then afterwards stare at my base and front the whole time. 
Guys, don't give up!
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fnatic tricky is not cheating hes just a rly rly good player with good game sens
hes going to gsl brah
ez
User was warned for this post
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On August 20 2012 01:25 shape16 wrote:
fnatic tricky is not cheating hes just a rly rly good player with good game sens
hes going to gsl brah
ez
Really lol? Go away
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On August 20 2012 01:43 NemesysTV wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2012 01:25 shape16 wrote:
fnatic tricky is not cheating hes just a rly rly good player with good game sens
hes going to gsl brah
ez
Really lol? Go away
I dont think he was serious.
@Gigaschatten
Yeah,hes doing it really obvious..
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On August 17 2012 04:11 Desertfaux wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2012 15:15 Nightmarjoo wrote:http://drop.sc/238592Fyromachine No scouting entire game, after scouting his gas first I do cloaked banshee to try to outmulti-task him, and he ends up going raven cc. Then he attacks me and I can't hold because he has the perfect timing and positioning. Please don't put up sarcastic replays where someone supposedly uses hacks. He got a raven, let it build up energy and attacked with it using that energy to gain aircontrol, tanks killing your tanks with that added sight from the airforce. Please explain why that should be in the thread?
What? Sarcastic? He didn't scout all game and just happened to perfectly blind counter what I was doing without scouting it, a build that isn't particularly common, and countered it with a build that is never used. The only point of ever going gas first raven cc would be to hard counter someone going gas first cloaked banshee, which I was doing, but he couldn't know that because he didn't fucking scout. Then he attacks my location without having scouted it. I'm not sure what part of this doesn't look suspicious to you.
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edit: I was wrong, I can't confirm shokan is a hacker but hes still pretty suspicious.
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Ideas from dreams are amazing. Here is someone to maybe be wary of. Method: the forum on which one of the most popular paid hacks is distributed on is closed for viewing except to paid members (aka hack buyers). Since I'm not a paid member, would seem there's nothing to extract... but! The registered user list is public (ty google). There are about 3300 users total. So.. to hell with going through the entire list.
I found an interesting name, two HMMMs, and a few other people who I didn't name because they are either just diamond 1v1 but masters team game assholes who I happened to notice on a glance, or they are people I think are legitimately good who took at look at the hack but never bought it, or because they have somewhat of a community presence (although not so large as to be someone I imagine who get posed as on such a site) and I don't want to have a case of mistaken identity, and other info I have suggests it probably isn't them.
Note that as far as I know, this hack was not pay to use until patch 1.5.
VIP Member = Paying Member
mKcPandaLove 07-25-2012 VIP Member
And questionables...
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Anyhows, one would have to be a retard or a not-give-a-fuck to use one's main sc2 account name to register on a paid hacking forum with a public member list (and shit you can use numbers in the name as well.
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