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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
An unnamed Korean industry insider said "There is a strong possibility that the next season of Proleague will have both SCBW and SC2, and the next one after that will have only SC2". Oh please god no. Shared is.. sup optimal at best (for a BW enthusiast without affection for SC2).. entirely SC2 would make me only follow because of the personalities that I know in the current scene. Makes me very sad | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:27 GolemMadness wrote: I didn't say that most wanted it gone. I said that some do. okay. i dont see why anyone would want it gone. they can coexist if the interest is there. | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:12 Xiphos wrote: And that's not the same as SC2? Seriously, SC2 is dominated just as much by the Korean than in BW. Theres alot more foreigners in sc2 that can do damage | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
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Corrupted
United States1255 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:22 Holgerius wrote: Dude, get off your high horse.  Generalizations are bad. I feel like that is an unfair generalization of generalizations. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On March 25 2012 02:48 setzer wrote: Except SC2 isn't anywhere close to being as popular as BW in Korea. Yes its true , but its just because kespa is stoping sc 2 grown in Korea , simple as that  | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:31 xsnac wrote: im happy that blizzard does something and cares about "us" as players /fans and will not let league of legends get more popular then starcraft 2 as an e-sports . Fixed, because in the process, they are not exactly supporting the entire franchise. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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HejaBVB
Germany125 Posts
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zyce
United States649 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
 On the plus side, maybe this will lead to the RTS scene to rally behind SC2 (don't let those lol guys take over ) and help SC2 to become as big in Korea as BW was in its heyday. One can only hope.. | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
On March 25 2012 02:18 lottopk wrote: Its inevitable. Everything must progress and bw is getting old. User was warned for this post I watch both games, and I browse both forums here on tl. This is just unfair, he did not deserve a warning for this. We are on the sc2 forum, and he stated something factually true and unconfutable. For the record far worse happens in the bw forums, without any action taken.(other than justified bans for trolling obv). Be fairer, TL. | ||
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ne4aJIb
Russian Federation3209 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:31 pallad wrote: Yes its true , but its just because kespa is stoping sc 2 grown in Korea , simple as that lol, how does it stop? | ||
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Operations
115 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:10 Clbull wrote: I don't see why he's been warned for this post. No offence but Brood War is very dated in terms of many things:
This is so Wrong. In warcraft 3 you also had the limit of 12 units(released at 2001) and no one even today consider it a game with bad mechanics, and in red alert 1(released in 1996) you could create infinite control groups About the graphics, that's just personal opinion. us BW fans prefer watching BW because you can Actually see what's going on the map, unlike sc2 ball vs ball protoss omg laser storms gg engagements. I also think that the dragoon blue goo death animation is much cooler than the stalker *poop, disapear to the void" silly animation. If this news is true I guess its the last summer for BW? so sad T_T. really hope at least OSL will live on.. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:35 HejaBVB wrote: Finally. I can't belíeve that there are still people who watch this 15yo game. Yeah! And maybe, Just Maybe! Some day, we don't have to read about this ancient game on the Starcraft --2-- forums all the time. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8096 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:38 PlosionCornu wrote: I watch both games, and I browse both forums here on tl. This is just unfair, he did not deserve a warning for this. We are on the sc2 forum, and he stated something factually true and unconfutable. For the record far worse happens in the bw forums, without any action taken.(other than justified bans for trolling obv). Be fairer, TL. He was probably warned before they realized what kind of a shit storm this thread would turn into. I'm sad as this will most likely mean KeSPA and OGN dropping BW after next proleague, rumors have been flying around for months now about BW teams practicing SC2 for the inevitable switch. | ||
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-niL
Canada1131 Posts
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Falling
Canada11596 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:31 xsnac wrote: im happy that blizzard does something and cares about "us" as players /fans and will not let league of legends get more popular then starcraft as an e-sports . On March 25 2012 05:31 pallad wrote: Yes its true , but its just because kespa is stoping sc 2 grown in Korea , simple as that This is such top down thinking. SC2 blew up in the West due to a player base as did BW in Korea. Kespa and Blizzard can't force popularity. If LoL is popular, it's popular because there is a huge player base. But the general BW vs SC2 vs LoL bashing needs to stop. There are some pretty obvious reason why people would be both excited and/ or absolutely devasted if the rumour proves to be true. But right now the combined tournament is still a rumour so this thread can take a few deep breaths and try being a little more considerate over the possible loss or gain for the respective communities. | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On March 25 2012 05:38 PlosionCornu wrote: I watch both games, and I browse both forums here on tl. This is just unfair, he did not deserve a warning for this. We are on the sc2 forum, and he stated something factually true and unconfutable. For the record far worse happens in the bw forums, without any action taken.(other than justified bans for trolling obv). Be fairer, TL. This. The guy didn't say anything offensive. Don't kill the bearer of bad news only because the truth hurts. | ||
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captainshards
39 Posts
What does sincerely bother me are the new people who came only since SC2 and their inability to have respect of any kind. Does anyone else find it depressing that, when a person is on top, and getting their way, they can cite anything as the reason why things are going their way and its enough to satisfy them? For example, many SC2 fans say BW is old and therefore must be put down. But BW isnt loved for its newness. Its loved for its gameplay. That argument means nothing, but, its enough for a SC2 fan to convince themselves they are right. I also read them saying that BW is "ugly" and has "bad graphics", and therefore must be put to rest. Well, there are hundreds of games that come out every year that rely on pixel based sprite style graphics and people love them, even prefer them. There are even very active pixel art communities where they do nothing but create pixel based sprites. Brilliant work can be seen in these communities. So its not necessarily that the graphics of BW are "bad", some people just think they are bad. Some people think SC2 has bad graphics. So basically it boils down to personal preference over which type of graphics are better. Thats not a reason to bury a game, the fact that some people dont like them. Aside from that, NO ONE in the professional BW scene is playing because of the graphics. So theres another SC2 fan argument that holds no ground. What BW fans are afraid of losing is the substance of BW, the depth. Not only that, but the scene built around that depth, where everyone knows all the stories and everyone knows the characteristics of that substance and depth very intimately. When BW fans are watching a stream, a particular move or decision that is made is instantly recognizable within the context of not only that particular game, but all the years of games that came before it. Thats why BW fans will say that the gameplay is still evolving in BW, because they know the game so well that even small changes can have massive effect on matchups etc, within that scene. If you are some 15 year old kid who never watched BW, hates it, wants it to die, doesnt care even if BW is better because you dont have any emotional connection to it, etc etc etc... thats fine. We live in a world where people have very focused personal agendas and interests, even at the cost of others agendas and interests. But if you truly love competitive gaming, and you truly think youve got the heart and interest in RTS enough to be visiting a site and playing a game for 10+ years, then imagine yourself at the end of that time watching your game, your memories, your passion die, just because some new kid "cant stand the graphics", and try to at least have a shred of respect. If you love SC2, dont be so hasty to play funeral music for BW before its even in its grave, because someday someone is going to be playing that same music for SC2 as well and then maybe youll see why graphics dont matter, age doesnt matter, and some 15 year old kid who never even played the game opinions dont matter. Its easy to celebrate when you are on top due to circumstance and random chance. But lets not celebrate the death of genius and quality. If anything the "death" of BW should be fortifying everyones efforts to improve and strengthen the depth of SC2, not just the popularity of it. I love SC2 and im ready for whatever changes come, but what i miss most about the BW days was the higher level of respect and intelligence that existed on these forums, in LR threads and otherwise. It was never a utopia but i miss the strict quality control. Times of transition must just be like this and theres no getting around it. I look forward to the future of SC2 but i sincerely regret saying goodbye to BW. To be honest, if SC2 never came id still be here watching BW streams and not feeling like im missing out on anything, bad graphics and all. | ||
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