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Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
March 25 2012 02:28 GMT
#621
On March 24 2012 01:37 PeanutsNJam wrote:
influx of new players


Based on available sales figures, Starcraft 2 will likely average about 1000 copies a month this year. Many of these copies are second accounts for existing players who have used up name changes or copies for people who will never play the game in multiplayer.

There's really no influx of new players. Heart of the Swarm will likely change that, of course.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Dhalphir
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1305 Posts
March 25 2012 02:36 GMT
#622
I agree that it is not reeeallly possible to remain in Bronze if you are actually putting in correct study and review to improve.

However, that's not for everyone and if you're having fun thats what is most important.
Supporting TypeII Gaming - www.typeii.net - TypeReaL, TypePhoeNix, TypeSuN, TypeDBS!!
mvdunecats
Profile Joined December 2011
United States102 Posts
March 25 2012 03:12 GMT
#623
"I'm a bronzie and I know it!" *cues music*
eden-san
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium42 Posts
March 25 2012 05:07 GMT
#624
Watching Day9, following the pro-scene, and reading up amazing strategies won't help anyone that is anywhere under platinum since mechanics, micro and macro should normally be the real problem.

I have been top 8 platinum on NA for a year now, and the main reasons I didn't get promoted are:
- Sloppy macro
- Micro blunders

My mechanics have been getting better lately since I've been practicing a little more, and I can see myself getting promoted soon since my win rate is getting over 70%, but that the only reason I'm getting out of plat... I am finally working out the basics.

So in my own experience, Day9 is fun, love watching pro matches... But it doesn't help me as a player, gotta work on the basics before worrying about amazing strats.
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
March 25 2012 05:08 GMT
#625
On March 25 2012 11:28 Lysenko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2012 01:37 PeanutsNJam wrote:
influx of new players


Based on available sales figures, Starcraft 2 will likely average about 1000 copies a month this year. Many of these copies are second accounts for existing players who have used up name changes or copies for people who will never play the game in multiplayer.

There's really no influx of new players. Heart of the Swarm will likely change that, of course.


Hahahahahahahahaha source? If no source then please tell me where and when your next comedy act is.
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Lorken
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand804 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 09:41:03
March 25 2012 09:38 GMT
#626
I'm probably around Bronze level, I have been playing LoL since season 2 of Starcraft 2 started and I had just hit gold (after a lot of hard work). I want to get into it again, but I am not confident I will do well. Just doing AI's until I re-learn the controls. Last game, I got supply blocked at 24 and average unspent resources were like 600 For stuff other than basic controls, do you think it would be better to do that versing actual people? I was 8 mins into the game vs a hard and I didn't even get attacked!

Also, my mate (Masters) told me that bronze - diamond is all about the same because the people who were really bad just stopped playing the game and that even low level play is a lot harder than it used to be, is this true?
LOUD NOISES!!!
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 09:46:23
March 25 2012 09:45 GMT
#627
On March 25 2012 18:38 Lorken wrote:
I'm probably around Bronze level, I have been playing LoL since season 2 of Starcraft 2 started and I had just hit gold (after a lot of hard work). I want to get into it again, but I am not confident I will do well. Just doing AI's until I re-learn the controls. Last game, I got supply blocked at 24 and average unspent resources were like 600 For stuff other than basic controls, do you think it would be better to do that versing actual people? I was 8 mins into the game vs a hard and I didn't even get attacked!

Also, my mate (Masters) told me that bronze - diamond is all about the same because the people who were really bad just stopped playing the game and that even low level play is a lot harder than it used to be, is this true?


I'm platinum, and I play against my bronze friends, and sometimes their bronze - gold friends want to play against me, and I can honestly do anything and still win. I cant see myself ever losing to them. So no, they're not all the same. Your friend being in masters probably hasn't been in lower leagues for a while.

Also I'd say to just ladder as much as you can. Losses don't really matter since you can't see them anymore. Your mmr will eventually get to where you actually are, and you can just work your way back up by practicing on ladder.
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vOdToasT
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Sweden2870 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 09:47:47
March 25 2012 09:46 GMT
#628
On March 25 2012 18:38 Lorken wrote:
I'm probably around Bronze level, I have been playing LoL since season 2 of Starcraft 2 started and I had just hit gold (after a lot of hard work). I want to get into it again, but I am not confident I will do well. Just doing AI's until I re-learn the controls. Last game, I got supply blocked at 24 and average unspent resources were like 600 For stuff other than basic controls, do you think it would be better to do that versing actual people? I was 8 mins into the game vs a hard and I didn't even get attacked!

Also, my mate (Masters) told me that bronze - diamond is all about the same because the people who were really bad just stopped playing the game and that even low level play is a lot harder than it used to be, is this true?


I am a Zerg user, and I was able to win pretty much all my games in bronze and silver without attacking using anything other than nukes. This is really hard to do in diamond and would actually lose me some games if I attempted it, although still possible if you try hard enough. But in silver and bronze it is really easy. So no, they're not the same at all.
If it's stupid but it works, then it's not stupid* (*Or: You are stupid for losing to it, and gotta git gud)
Monkeyballs25
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
March 25 2012 09:51 GMT
#629
On March 25 2012 10:21 Creekman wrote:
step 1: Pick the race you want
step 2: Look for an unit composition that is just awesome (MM,Roach/Hydra,Zealot/Stalker)
step 3: Start game, produce constant workers/supply and concentrate on building units, expand whenever you can. Every 5 min do an a-click into opponents base. If you get more than 500 minerals punch yourself in the face.

Gold in 1 week.


Works fine against zerg as is, works fine against protoss if you add vikings lategame, pretty much an autoloss against Terran cos of siegetanks.
Current record is 10-4.
TvZ 5-1
TvP 5-1
TvT 0-2

Currently solidly in the middle of silver MMR, I'll let you know if it gets me into gold
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
March 25 2012 10:25 GMT
#630
MMM should be enough to win TvT at silver/gold level (it's what i do)
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Monkeyballs25
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
March 25 2012 10:37 GMT
#631
On March 25 2012 19:25 freakhill wrote:
MMM should be enough to win TvT at silver/gold level (it's what i do)


Do you just A-move or get all fancy with drops?
Rash_Pocket
Profile Joined November 2011
3 Posts
March 25 2012 10:44 GMT
#632
I got boarding school so I just got out of bronze after a small 3 day gaming session over the holidays. Now I find that I am far beyond silver in my physical dexterity and macro but I just don't play enough games to progress I play 20 games this weekend ad went 18/20 playing against high gold and low play players but am not being promoted my knowledge of the game is quite good the only thing that I suffer in is micro but that can be improved anyone have this problem that you win alot but don't play consistently ..??
Cubeface
Profile Joined April 2011
965 Posts
March 25 2012 10:59 GMT
#633
I've had the game for a year. I've only played about 160 games, but I'm Platinum. I really don't play enough to get out of Platinum yet, but I'm working on that. The way I got up to Platinum in so few games is by TRYING to improve. I watch my replays and study my mistakes. I also play much faster than most of my opponents so that may count for something. I think I'll reach Diamond before I reach 200 wins. It's all about how much you try to improve; playing a lot of games will advance you through the leagues, but if you're not trying to improve then you simply will not.
NerfrA
Profile Joined March 2012
Thailand46 Posts
March 25 2012 11:09 GMT
#634
Actually I play as zerg cause i like it... and enjoy when watching cutie zergling destroy their base.

otherwise if i want to win.... i choose terran... TOP25 Bronze..
The way to change the world, is change you life better.
freakhill
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Japan463 Posts
March 25 2012 11:49 GMT
#635
On March 25 2012 19:37 Monkeyballs25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 19:25 freakhill wrote:
MMM should be enough to win TvT at silver/gold level (it's what i do)


Do you just A-move or get all fancy with drops?


drop make concaves and surround
the important part to crush tanks is to expand a lot (at low tank count he cant really get out except drop) and to always know where is tank are (dont let him siege in your face). i simply took dappolo video guide tutorial build for pure bio. it's easy to use and very effective. at our level of play mech user mess up too much to crush that style
moo ForGG, Dragon, MVP, Gumiho, DRG, PartinG, Life]0[!
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-25 12:08:11
March 25 2012 12:03 GMT
#636
On March 25 2012 14:08 willoc wrote:
Hahahahahahahahaha source? If no source then please tell me where and when your next comedy act is.


I misread the numbers. (To be clear, read the 2012 numbers as 2011.) They're higher (maybe 10k a month), but still not enough to make a huge difference in the number of people playing multiplayer. Sales are dropping about 80% per year.

www.vgchartz.com has up to date numbers on this.

SC2:WoL is not in the top 100 PC games right now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
Zythius
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway94 Posts
March 25 2012 12:06 GMT
#637
There are a couple of funny stories here about "friends in bronze". Doesn't really mean anything, though.


On March 25 2012 14:07 eden-san wrote:
Watching Day9, following the pro-scene, and reading up amazing strategies won't help anyone that is anywhere under platinum since mechanics, micro and macro should normally be the real problem.

I have been top 8 platinum on NA for a year now, and the main reasons I didn't get promoted are:
- Sloppy macro
- Micro blunders

My mechanics have been getting better lately since I've been practicing a little more, and I can see myself getting promoted soon since my win rate is getting over 70%, but that the only reason I'm getting out of plat... I am finally working out the basics.

So in my own experience, Day9 is fun, love watching pro matches... But it doesn't help me as a player, gotta work on the basics before worrying about amazing strats.


Day9 does cover some micro, macro and mechanics too. Just FYI. Facts are not just fun, but required in a discussion.
eden-san
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium42 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-26 02:36:51
March 26 2012 02:25 GMT
#638
On March 25 2012 21:06 Zythius wrote:
There are a couple of funny stories here about "friends in bronze". Doesn't really mean anything, though.


Show nested quote +
On March 25 2012 14:07 eden-san wrote:
Watching Day9, following the pro-scene, and reading up amazing strategies won't help anyone that is anywhere under platinum since mechanics, micro and macro should normally be the real problem.

I have been top 8 platinum on NA for a year now, and the main reasons I didn't get promoted are:
- Sloppy macro
- Micro blunders

My mechanics have been getting better lately since I've been practicing a little more, and I can see myself getting promoted soon since my win rate is getting over 70%, but that the only reason I'm getting out of plat... I am finally working out the basics.

So in my own experience, Day9 is fun, love watching pro matches... But it doesn't help me as a player, gotta work on the basics before worrying about amazing strats.


Day9 does cover some micro, macro and mechanics too. Just FYI. Facts are not just fun, but required in a discussion.

I didn't say Day9 didn't cover the basics, but the difference between the basics and the current metagame is that you can't study/analyze your way out of it, only relentless and targeted practice will improve it... And personally I learn much more basics and tricks from pros streaming (who clearly focus on specific details of their plays) rather than Day9 (and don't get me wrong, I think Day9 is amazing as a person and I really love watching his stream).
Jhimmibhob
Profile Joined January 2012
United States6 Posts
March 26 2012 03:17 GMT
#639
I know for a fact that I'm not a natural Bronze, because I've been playing bronzies for months on end, doing incessant research, and have won precisely ONE game.: Blizzard needs to establish a Zinc bracket for people with superannuated reflexes, and who still curse the absence of a "PAUSE" button to scratch one's chin, pour a drink, and try to recall which antagonist's unit does what.
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
March 26 2012 11:53 GMT
#640
On March 26 2012 12:17 Jhimmibhob wrote:
I know for a fact that I'm not a natural Bronze, because I've been playing bronzies for months on end, doing incessant research, and have won precisely ONE game.: Blizzard needs to establish a Zinc bracket for people with superannuated reflexes, and who still curse the absence of a "PAUSE" button to scratch one's chin, pour a drink, and try to recall which antagonist's unit does what.


There is a pause button! Go for it! The worst that can happen is your opponent unpauses! :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
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