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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:25 pepsimaxibon wrote: someone dig up the quote from idra about starcraft not being pro-wrestling and how gamers should be playing to win above all else. But it's a showmatch though... Emphasis on SHOW... I understand IdrA's POV, even if I don't empathize with it. Should've just played it out instead of causing a ruckus.. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:32 Forikorder wrote: Naniwa probe rushs: oh well game didnt amtter anyway and he was tired Stephano forfiets: well it was late he was tired IdrA 6 pools: WTF how can people do this? IdrA is so terrible GRRRRRRR love the double standard, it was a showmatch that didnt matter wheres the entertainment in watching alive all-in every game? none Yes, because the community always has an unanimous opinion about everything. Seriously, do you even believe what you write? Some people were upset with Naniwa, others less so, same for Stephano and IdrA. But you have to invent a revisionist history where suddenly everyone has a double standard about him. You are the one that has the double standard. | ||
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architecture
United States643 Posts
The only coinflip part is when Idra failed to react and prepare properly and died straightout. Typical Idra - blame the opponent when he fails. | ||
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Boony
Australia87 Posts
He remindes me of a few sports stars that I have followed. They have amazing tallent and when they play well they leave you in awe. But their mental attitude prevents them from achiving their true potential and leaves everyone wondering what they could have been. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:37 MrCon wrote: Wow, Idra still think coin flips exist, even tho he trained in Korea. Amazing. Well, perhaps he knows there is no really such thing (at least that 11/11 is not a "coin flip", especially not versus him), but he hopes his remaining fans will pick that sentence and use it to defend him. coin flip builds still exist, 6 pooling for instance is a coin flip build every all-in is a coin flip build most mid game timings are coin flips like for instance if you go for an early hellion/marauder push thats a coin flip if you go for a fast roach baneling all-in thats a coinflip if you 4 gate off one base thats a coin flip if you DT rush thats a coin flip On February 24 2012 09:40 architecture wrote: It is more than possible to survive Alive's builds, and take a minimal amount of damage. The only coinflip part is when Idra failed to react and prepare properly and died straightout. Typical Idra - blame the opponent when he fails. he didnt blame Alive, yes it is possible to survive the builds easily, it is also possible to die easily, hence calling them a coinflip build, your flipping a coin and hoping they arent prepared | ||
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Kfcnoob
United States296 Posts
Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear | ||
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rUiNati0n
United States1155 Posts
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stokes17
United States1411 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:40 docvoc wrote: losing respect for idra day by day smh. Even though it was a showmatch that doesn't mean all-ins are taboo. Double 6 pooling however would be like if alive had gone for a completely blind 5 rax marine proxy all in. The point is that once again IdrA is being idra and i can't believe people respect him for that. you realize alive went proxy 2 rax and double reactor hellion in games 1 and 2? So yea its exactly equivalent... that was the point lol | ||
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:41 Kfcnoob wrote: Anyone else not satisfied with idra's answer for why phoenix buff is bad? He says blizz is dumb and proceeds to describe the midgame role of the muta, without saying why the buff was a poor choice. Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear its not clear why a lte game upgrade wont be out in time to stop mid game mutas? | ||
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Darkzler
Sweden58 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:41 Kfcnoob wrote: Anyone else not satisfied with idra's answer for why phoenix buff is bad? He says blizz is dumb and proceeds to describe the midgame role of the muta, without saying why the buff was a poor choice. Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear You know it's Idra. | ||
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:41 Kfcnoob wrote: Anyone else not satisfied with idra's answer for why phoenix buff is bad? He says blizz is dumb and proceeds to describe the midgame role of the muta, without saying why the buff was a poor choice. Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear Sounded like because of the cost and time it takes to get, the upgrade could only serve as making the Protoss deathball even stronger which it doesn't even need and the muta problem happens mid-game not late-game, so Protoss needs a mid-game option that means they can attack without risking an immediate base-trade. | ||
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Ice Climber
United States46 Posts
I personally love all-in's and cheese and I believe they are necessary. I think they make the game more exciting/upredictable and tightens up the allowable set of builds that can be done. When a cheese works and the cheeser cake-walks over his opponent they suck to watch, but when someone holds it off or beats the cheese it is always fun and exciting to watch. Sometimes when the cheese works it's exciting like with Game 1 MMA vs MVP at Blizzcon GSL Finals. That was some excellent cheese. I do think IdrA is spot on about PvZ and and I think the same applies to an extent to PvT. Those matchups just aren't that fun to watch imo. The way that SC2 Protoss interacts with the other two races right now is just uninteresting. PvP is much more enjoyable now that you can't 4 Gate everything. Protoss is just wonky :/ | ||
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shishy
United States115 Posts
Hopefully he'll do well at MLG, I always like to watch him haha. | ||
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Tipany
United States368 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:25 pepsimaxibon wrote: someone dig up the quote from idra about starcraft not being pro-wrestling and how gamers should be playing to win above all else. SHOWmatch, bro. SHOWMATCH. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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EmilA
Denmark4618 Posts
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