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EG.IdrA on the six-pool, MLG Arena, 1.4.3

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ShiroKaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1082 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 00:17:12
February 24 2012 00:13 GMT
#1
I got a chance to interview IdrA before he left for the MLG Winter Arena and get his thoughts on a couple things. He gives his statement on the six-pool, his thoughts on the MLG Winter Arena, and a very detailed description of his problems with the state of Zerg vs Terran and v Protoss in a post-1.4.3 StarCraft 2.

Shiro: It’s been several months since you started training in the SlayerS house. Do you feel like your play has improved since you arrived? In what way?

IdrA: Massively so in a lot of ways, playing the Korean ladder forces you to be much cleaner and safer because everyone has such well designed aggressive builds. You can’t cut corners, at all. And then of course practicing with the SlayerS members just gets you used to playing against great players, which is the best way to practice and improve in general.

Shiro: Your recent showmatch with aLive caused a bit of controversy when you opted to six-pool twice in a row. Would you mind explaining what happened on your end?

IdrA: He cheesed me successfully on two of the better zerg maps in the pool and it was just a showmatch I was asked to play a few hours beforehand. Alive is an excellent player and hes willing to take risks, a player like that is very hard to beat and given the map pool I didn’t think I had a realistic chance of coming back from down 0-2. The games weren’t gonna be entertaining if he just wanted to flip coins anyway, so I just 6 pooled to get it over, one way or the other.


The rest of the interview's over at
http://myeg.net/team/eg-idra-id-like-to-redeem-myself/
Dame da na, zenzen dame da ze!
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 24 2012 00:15 GMT
#2
Wow, interesting. They don't give the players a few days to prepare even though the match was announced on a Wednesday and broadcast on a Sunday?

That's really strange...
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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
February 24 2012 00:16 GMT
#3
what is he talking about, being only asked several hours beforehand? wasn't the match set several days beforehand?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309773
mell0w
Profile Joined September 2010
United States102 Posts
February 24 2012 00:16 GMT
#4
Is there a vod of this? It sounds like a very amusing series.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
February 24 2012 00:17 GMT
#5
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.
$♥$
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
February 24 2012 00:18 GMT
#6
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...
yoten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
February 24 2012 00:19 GMT
#7
Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty.
"Do with my minions as you will, Cerebrate. They will serve you unquestioningly. Go and bring swift wrath to all who would oppose the Swarm."
KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
February 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#8
It's interesting to hear his balance thoughts.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
February 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#9
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...

should just put more equal skilled people against each other if you want this. showmatches shoulndt be forced to be lategame only just because one is better than the other
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
February 24 2012 00:21 GMT
#10
What builds did alive go?
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seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
February 24 2012 00:23 GMT
#11
On February 24 2012 09:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
what is he talking about, being only asked several hours beforehand? wasn't the match set several days beforehand?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309773

The matches were played very much in advance. Hell, the results were leaked before the broadcast even started.
tarodotoxin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
February 24 2012 00:23 GMT
#12
On February 24 2012 09:19 yoten wrote:
Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty.


yeah, honesty is what make people love/hate him.
hes always honest and doesnt give those BS answers. one of the biggest reasons why i like him so much
EMCL
Profile Joined September 2010
United States71 Posts
February 24 2012 00:23 GMT
#13
On February 24 2012 09:19 yoten wrote:
Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty.


Sure, but then you have to disrespect him in far more quantity for straight up not giving a fuck about viewers entertainment.

Really disrespectful to the fans in my opinion for him to just not try "because it's just a showmatch so whatever".

Awful attitude, he deserves the poor results he's gotten.
3DGlaDOS
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany607 Posts
February 24 2012 00:24 GMT
#14
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...

indeed.
Hello Sir, do you have a minute for atheism?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 00:25:15
February 24 2012 00:24 GMT
#15
i agree with idra. alive's play was just not entertaining.

"The games weren’t gonna be entertaining if he just wanted to flip coins anyway, so I just 6 pooled to get it over, one way or the other."
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
February 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#16
On February 24 2012 09:21 GinDo wrote:
What builds did alive go?


11/11 in the first game and then double reactor hellion in the second one if I recall correctly, not quite sure about the first game.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#17
On February 24 2012 09:21 GinDo wrote:
What builds did alive go?


2 rax bunker rush, then double reactor hellions.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
pepsimaxibon
Profile Joined March 2011
61 Posts
February 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#18
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...

someone dig up the quote from idra about starcraft not being pro-wrestling and how gamers should be playing to win above all else.
skyflyfish
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada499 Posts
February 24 2012 00:25 GMT
#19
only if DRG through his game when he's behind
as1
MonsterBeast
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada193 Posts
February 24 2012 00:26 GMT
#20
I wonder how he feels about going up against the beastly protoss player from FXO Oz.
It is what it is.
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