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EG.IdrA on the six-pool, MLG Arena, 1.4.3 - Page 2

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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 00:34:05
February 24 2012 00:26 GMT
#21
Why is the title misleading and it's on eg's own site? "I'd like to redeem myself" was regarding a Nestea rematch, nothing to do with his six pools against aLive.

Still, it was a good interview. I hope IdrA does well, and I agree that PvZ is just generally not that great a match up. The turtle/deathballs is just plain boring, as is the nature of 2 base all-ins all the time, although at least those are micro intense. It's pretty bad when PvP is my favorite protoss match up to watch. I'm also glad to hear he practices a lot with SlayerS. Sometimes I got the impression he just lives with them and ladders.

Edit: actually, it was the quote in the OP that, in tandem with the article title, is a bit misleading. The article itself doesn't put that out front. Still, it's the "most recent Idrama" and is a natural association.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
February 24 2012 00:27 GMT
#22
Self-awareness you're doing something bad doesn't necessarily deserve respect.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#23
At least he was gracious enough to the viewers to throw the games with 6 pools, rather than wasting our time by playing for a bit and then quitting because he had the opinion he probably wouldn't be able to win despite beign on 200 supply.

It does make you wonder why anyone gets Idra to play in showmatches, I think the only reason anyone watches is to see what crap coems out of it, be it early GG's, 6 pools, BM or something else. You don't watch an Idra showmatch for the quality of the games, only for the drama.

Can't argue with his opinion on the Phoenix change though, it's terribly executed and doesn't really fix any of the issues with mutalisk based play.
HOLY CHECK!
Radnomize
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden65 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#24
On February 24 2012 09:16 JustPassingBy wrote:
what is he talking about, being only asked several hours beforehand? wasn't the match set several days beforehand?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=309773


I assume the games were casted from replays so they could have been played before the initiall annonucement.
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#25
IdrA sounds like he's pumped for this tournament. I'm not that much of an IdrA fan but an IdrA that's playing well is good for everybody, it creates such meaningless controversy when he's having a bad run. He's very honest about the balance situation. I tend to agree with him this time.
Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#26
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...

I don't even...
KwanROLLLLLLLED
`Zapdos
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States935 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#27
Thanks for the interview, I don't really understand all the hate for Idra I think it's mostly misplaced and hope to see some good results in the next few tournaments he plays in.
www.twitch.tv/thezapdos come watch me :]
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
February 24 2012 00:28 GMT
#28
i like his insight on the recent patch. he has some inteseresting things to say about the zvt and zvp matchups.
i dont care what people think of his attitude, i think hes a cool guy
My religion is Starcraft
SonOfBoxer
Profile Joined December 2011
Korea (South)62 Posts
February 24 2012 00:29 GMT
#29
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...


Korean mentality? Ever heard of BoxeR, who puts his fans before winning? NaDa, who's just as awesome? Flash? iloveoov? MMA? Those guys are too awesome because they want to show good matches WHILE winning, but for BoxeR who just wants to show good matches. Everybody knows IdrA is a whiner from the beginning, and since he couldn't simply ragequit, he decided to throw the games.
No Pain, No Gain.
bpat
Profile Joined September 2011
United States157 Posts
February 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#30
On February 24 2012 09:23 EMCL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:19 yoten wrote:
Gotta respect Idra for his openness and honesty.


Sure, but then you have to disrespect him in far more quantity for straight up not giving a fuck about viewers entertainment.

Really disrespectful to the fans in my opinion for him to just not try "because it's just a showmatch so whatever".

Awful attitude, he deserves the poor results he's gotten.

In all fairness, aLive cheesed him twice which isn't much more entertaining than two sixpools. I'm not saying IdrA should have done it, we shouldn't condemn him for it.
Gunter
Profile Joined December 2011
United States38 Posts
February 24 2012 00:30 GMT
#31
In one of the questions why does it say the patch hits the NA server 1 day before MLG? i thought it already hit
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#32
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...

reminds me of huk vs. nestea showmatch. where huk played seriously, and nestea was trying to show a good game. korean mentality and all..... =P
McFeser
Profile Joined July 2011
United States2458 Posts
February 24 2012 00:31 GMT
#33
So . .. He thought the showmatch was going to be horrible because Alive was going to do coinflip builds - so he made it worse by doing the most uninspired coin flip builds. Sigh . . . .. .
Promethelax still hasn't changed his quote
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
February 24 2012 00:32 GMT
#34
Every single zerg in idra shoes if playing for the win and not to put on a good showmatch would of 6pooled when down 2-0. I didn't see the games so I apologize if it was on some stupid map like Calm, but there is a high prob. that a terran like alive will 14cc in g3 vs a macro heavy player known for never rushing, then 14 cc after getting 6pooled in g4. You would be an idiot not to 6pool in that situation unless you were relative to alives skill, which in this case idra is not, IMO. I would even go as far to say 6pool on game 5 aswell if it is not a 2 player map.
stokes17
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1411 Posts
February 24 2012 00:32 GMT
#35
On February 24 2012 09:29 SonOfBoxer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 09:18 Otolia wrote:
On February 24 2012 09:17 Devolved wrote:
So in other words, he threw the games because he was behind in the series and didn't think he could come back. And besides, it was just a showmatch so who cares anyway. Stay classy, Idra.

No it was because aLive wanted to win instead of showing good matches. Korean mentality and all ...


Korean mentality? Ever heard of BoxeR, who puts his fans before winning? NaDa, who's just as awesome? Flash? iloveoov? MMA? Those guys are too awesome because they want to show good matches WHILE winning, but for BoxeR who just wants to show good matches. Everybody knows IdrA is a whiner from the beginning, and since he couldn't simply ragequit, he decided to throw the games.

Well I think the point he was making was that ALive decided to Cheese Games 1 and 2. He put winning the series above showing good games aka Not cheesing both games.

Since he cheesed Idra on the 2 zerg favored maps; Idra cheese on the 2 terren maps. I don't really see the difference in what they did.... just that Alive cheeses better than Idra which really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
February 24 2012 00:32 GMT
#36
Naniwa probe rushs: oh well game didnt amtter anyway and he was tired
Stephano forfiets: well it was late he was tired
IdrA 6 pools: WTF how can people do this? IdrA is so terrible GRRRRRRR

love the double standard, it was a showmatch that didnt matter wheres the entertainment in watching alive all-in every game? none
Hawke5811
Profile Joined July 2011
United States183 Posts
February 24 2012 00:33 GMT
#37
lol, you only have to read a few comments to know the gist behind idra... you either love him or you hate him. people like that are polarizing and is why they'll always be a topic of conversation. whether it's intentional or not is irrelevant
garbodor
Profile Joined October 2011
269 Posts
February 24 2012 00:36 GMT
#38
The broodlord/infestor turtle vs vortex late game situation is also awful and needs to be fixed. The matchup is just bad in general. Everything comes down to whether or not protoss hits their forcefields, and then whether zerg can avoid a good vortex if it gets to late game.





So true, zvp is disgustingly bad :c
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 24 2012 00:37 GMT
#39
Wow, Idra still think coin flips exist, even tho he trained in Korea. Amazing.
Well, perhaps he knows there is no really such thing (at least that 11/11 is not a "coin flip", especially not versus him), but he hopes his remaining fans will pick that sentence and use it to defend him.
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 24 2012 00:37 GMT
#40
On February 24 2012 09:32 Forikorder wrote:
Naniwa probe rushs: oh well game didnt amtter anyway and he was tired
Stephano forfiets: well it was late he was tired
IdrA 6 pools: WTF how can people do this? IdrA is so terrible GRRRRRRR

love the double standard, it was a showmatch that didnt matter wheres the entertainment in watching alive all-in every game? none


Naniwa received a way bigger backlash. Stephano arguably received an equivalent backlash, you just don't hear about it as much as anything IdrA related, generally. There's no double standard.
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