EPTEG.IdrA on the six-pool, MLG Arena, 1.4.3 - Page 4
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:23 EMCL wrote: Sure, but then you have to disrespect him in far more quantity for straight up not giving a fuck about viewers entertainment. Really disrespectful to the fans in my opinion for him to just not try "because it's just a showmatch so whatever". Awful attitude, he deserves the poor results he's gotten. It's not IdrA's job to entertain you. It is IdrA's job to win tournaments and if he had no chance of beating Alive then he might as well six pool. | ||
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:32 Forikorder wrote: Naniwa probe rushs: oh well game didnt amtter anyway and he was tired Stephano forfiets: well it was late he was tired IdrA 6 pools: WTF how can people do this? IdrA is so terrible GRRRRRRR love the double standard, it was a showmatch that didnt matter wheres the entertainment in watching alive all-in every game? none Did you somehow miss the HUGE SHITSTORMS over both of those events? I fail to see any double standards at all, both Naniwa and Stephano were punished by the respective tournament organizations. Since Idra's was a showmatch, there's no one to enforce anything from him other than people bitching. So if anything, Idra is getting off way easier. | ||
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n0ise
3452 Posts
surprisingly ( :D :D ) entertaining games come from both players wanting to win, not from "PLSNR20 KK?"  | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:41 Kfcnoob wrote: Anyone else not satisfied with idra's answer for why phoenix buff is bad? He says blizz is dumb and proceeds to describe the midgame role of the muta, without saying why the buff was a poor choice. Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear His wording might not be clear but if you understand the game you know where hes coming from. Hes saying that the phx upgrade is not useful late game but the archon/HT/mothership/blink stalker is super effective against a player that stays on mutas. | ||
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:48 MichaelDonovan wrote: It's not IdrA's job to entertain you. It is IdrA's job to win tournaments and if he had no chance of beating Alive then he might as well six pool. Except Idra specifically said it was his job to entertain, because he accused Alive of coin-flipping rather than playing entertaining games. Or do you know Idra's job better than he does? | ||
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:49 TrickyGilligan wrote: Did you somehow miss the HUGE SHITSTORMS over both of those events? I fail to see any double standards at all, both Naniwa and Stephano were punished by the respective tournament organizations. Since Idra's was a showmatch, there's no one to enforce anything from him other than people bitching. So if anything, Idra is getting off way easier. This. Naniwa and Stephano both had to release public apologies cause of all the shit that came there way Lol. >_< | ||
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Ice Climber
United States46 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:49 Nazeron wrote: read this interview, pretty good, really wish Greg would get in a better state mentally, dont want to see him lose first round at MLG He's playing Oz. You can guess he thinks he's going to lose anyway. I hope he has something planned for Oz, it would be sweet to see him win or at least play some competitive games. | ||
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-Cyrus-
United States318 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:24 dAPhREAk wrote: i agree with idra. alive's play was just not entertaining. "The games weren’t gonna be entertaining if he just wanted to flip coins anyway, so I just 6 pooled to get it over, one way or the other." Thinking like this is poisonous and very fanboy-esque. It doesn't matter if Alive was playing to win or not, Idra threw the matches and ruined what could have been an otherwise great showmatch. | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:41 Kfcnoob wrote: Anyone else not satisfied with idra's answer for why phoenix buff is bad? He says blizz is dumb and proceeds to describe the midgame role of the muta, without saying why the buff was a poor choice. Is he implying that the midgame muta will now be insufficient in buying enough time for zerg macro? He said the late game protoss army will already beat a muta army. So, was the phoenix buff unnecessary in his opinion? Not very clear He is saying the balance patch was intended to fix heavy numbers of mutalisk play. However if protoss defends properly and gets a blink stalker storm composition, then the heavy mutalisk player is the one in trouble because the army will not be cost efficient directly. Thus the patch has no meaning at all, because blizzard tried to fix a problem that was not there. | ||
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Ice Climber
United States46 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:52 -Trippin- wrote: Thinking like this is poisonous and very fanboy-esque. It doesn't matter if Alive was playing to win or not, Idra threw the matches and ruined what could have been an otherwise great showmatch. To be fair he really only threw the 4th game. The third one, despite being a 6 pool, almost worked for him. Alive handled it very well. | ||
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Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:52 -Trippin- wrote: Thinking like this is poisonous and very fanboy-esque. It doesn't matter if Alive was playing to win or not, Idra threw the matches and ruined what could have been an otherwise great showmatch. How is it going to be a great showmatch if alive is just going to all-in every game? The first two games weren't entertaining and the rest weren't very likely to be either. | ||
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Micket
United Kingdom2163 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:37 MrCon wrote: Wow, Idra still think coin flips exist, even tho he trained in Korea. Amazing. Well, perhaps he knows there is no really such thing (at least that 11/11 is not a "coin flip", especially not versus him), but he hopes his remaining fans will pick that sentence and use it to defend him. err, yes there they do exist. Otherwise, we would see the same all ins every single game that will never be crushed because they aren't coinflip builds. Arguably, 1/1/1 a few months ago wasn't a coinflip. Double reactor hellion is completely coinflip. 'If he does a massive roach push, I'm dead.' How coin flip is that? Heck, I can go triple cc before barracks, and you think that isn't relying on luck to win? Your argument is wrong on so many levels. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:52 -Trippin- wrote: Thinking like this is poisonous and very fanboy-esque. It doesn't matter if Alive was playing to win or not, Idra threw the matches and ruined what could have been an otherwise great showmatch. alive's play was not entertaining. idra's play was beyond ridiculous, and his six pools were unacceptable. better? | ||
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renlynn
United States276 Posts
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L_Master
United States8017 Posts
Though it sounds like IdrA's motivation was a little more questionable. He did say he didn't think he would have much chance on the T favored maps, but at the same time he also said he was doing it to "get the match over". Sounds like a little of both from IdrA. He didn't think he could win on terran favored maps vs alive, so he decided to allin because he has the best chance of that and just picked 6 pool because it would end it the quickest. | ||
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
On February 24 2012 09:32 Forikorder wrote: Naniwa probe rushs: oh well game didnt amtter anyway and he was tired Stephano forfiets: well it was late he was tired IdrA 6 pools: WTF how can people do this? IdrA is so terrible GRRRRRRR love the double standard, it was a showmatch that didnt matter wheres the entertainment in watching alive all-in every game? none wow I don't even know what is the worst word to describe you. Nani got kicked out of CoL, got rejected his code S invite and you call it what?? IdrA didn't tired, he didn't lose anything, no one made a single thread with 500 pages to talk about him after that b/c it's IdrA, he's a douche anyway. Learn how to compare A and B plz. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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