EPTPatch 1.4.3 - Preview Blog - Page 33
| Forum Index > SC2 General |
Please DISCUSS the changes and the impact they will have on gameplay. Straight up whining and bitching will get you a ban, no exceptions. | ||
|
G.K.
United States105 Posts
| ||
|
Klondikebar
United States2227 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:26 Rokevo wrote: As a protoss, I love this patch <3. The phoenix buff seems like its gonna be strong, but not something that will make mutas useless. Snipe nerf is pretty damn huge tho, terrans will have to figure something new out for lategame TvZ. Bringing back APM is cool aswell :p They can still use Vikings, Marines, and Thors for BL's. Ultras will still be a joke with Marauders, Siege Tanks, Thors...and the starport stuff that they should really start using. The only reason they've never used this stuff before is because they never really had to. Blizzard is saying "watching Terrans use Ghosts for everything is boring, use other stuff guys." | ||
|
s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:28 RockIronrod wrote: Zerg has a similar, if not worse problem against collosus with corruptors. The Blizzard response so far is "deal w/ it", so don't expect anything. At least the Corrupters can be morved into Broodlords later on . The Vikings will still remain terrible against anything that doesn't fly and for some reason Helions. | ||
|
Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:23 RaE21 wrote: great, now tvz is going to be exactly like tvp: scan to see the tech switch or die horribly. Now terran HAS to make either viking or marauder to counter hive tech....both of which suffer horribly to tech switches late game So terran can't make one unit to counter everything zerg can do late game? WHAT A SHAME!!!! | ||
|
Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
Even though it was seldom used, Snipe could be used to kill workers and marines (for example), which was pretty cool. Why nerf that use of it as well? | ||
|
BamBam
745 Posts
by his logic I guess this means that zerg wont have to worry about emp on infestors? | ||
|
VTPerfect
United States487 Posts
| ||
|
Garmer
1286 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:28 neoghaleon55 wrote: It's a PLUS TWO range!! it deserves to be up there. also it doesn't make sense in any other building, because it's an air unit upgrade... | ||
|
ThE_OsToJiY
Canada1167 Posts
| ||
|
clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:27 neoghaleon55 wrote: That ghost nerf is absolutely insane... I can't imagine how MMA, MVP, forGG feels right now... *throws mouse to wall. hahahaha Honestly it is a bit extreme....I would rather the damage reduced against armored type rather than just a blatant nerf like this. ...and I play zerg o_O MMA doesn't care because he owns zergs without mass ghosts?` | ||
|
Beastyqt
Serbia516 Posts
 With what is terran supposed to kill broodlords now? Every terran and zerg in GSL that gave interview they said playing vs protoss is super hard and that protoss should always win in PvZ and the only strat that worked for Z gets nerfed? More and more terran players keep quiting their race and this will not help it at all, I agree with mule nerf, but if you already want to nerf ghosts can you give us less useless raven abilities or something to deal with broodlords? For ultras you can make marauders, emp infestors and kite. This isnt rage post, its a whine post and when terran is in worst shape since start of the game they nerf the only unit that could keep terran late game alive vs other 2 races with already having terrible macro abilities (larva/warpgates). | ||
|
Swiv
Germany3674 Posts
| ||
|
GARO
United States2255 Posts
| ||
|
Lamilove
United Kingdom11 Posts
Terran is already the least represented race in EU and NA past Gold league. In the same patch they've made Terran harder to play late game while making Protoss phoenix micro easier. The general consensus is that Terran is already the most demanding race to play with imperfect mechanics, is it ridiculous to ask the same level of commitment from everyone? Balance should be done for the pro-level, but its ridiculous to see 60 apm Protosses in masters and claim that they're equally as mechanically taxing. The only people saying that its great that the snipe change adds more micro are the non-Terrans who don't already have play faster than other people they face daily. Not to mention so far snipe is the only solution (as gimmicky as it may feel) to mass chargelots. My only hope is that Blizzard put out these notes so when they bring out the real numbers people are content because they're not AS bad. More of a PR move kind of thing. Otherwise, its off to 'Toss for me. | ||
|
DrPhilOfdOOm
Sweden353 Posts
gg blizz | ||
|
Scribble
2077 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:23 Code wrote: so does this change anything about the Tempest for HOTS? Wasn't its purpose basically to counter large groups of light air units? Maybe now they'll scrap it, buff the carrier and leave that in. *fingers crossed* | ||
|
thezanursic
5500 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:29 Klondikebar wrote: They can still use Vikings, Marines, and Thors for BL's. Ultras will still be a joke with Marauders, Siege Tanks, Thors...and the starport stuff that you guys should really start using. The only reason you've never used this stuff before is because you never really had to. Blizzard is saying "watching Terrans use Ghosts for everything is boring, use other stuff guys." This is the wrong way to do this then buff something else so we can counter shit. | ||
|
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Snipe well okay, but atleast they should have kept it 30 against banes >.< . Don't expect this change to stay in though once we see games with transfuse. one transfuse 50 energy from a queen now blocks 7 ghost snipes on non caster units. So a queen with 200 energy can fend of 28 snipes which is 700 ghost energy. 3,5 ghosts blocked by a 150 mineral unit nice can't wait to see that. Maybe they change the transfuse range, so a terran could emp/snipe the queens. And omg phoenix buff ! First the immortal now the phoenix. These units where fine before just needed some micro, now they will just rip everything. I mean i had no problem against mutas before ... lost one or 2 phoenix if i was sloppy against muta harass, and in an all out battle mutas died in seconds to the phoenix, now the phoenix will even win the big muta ball fights with ease. But i like the change anyway now i can magic box my phoenix into broodlord infestor spine armys and still do maximum damage, while fungal only affects 1 or 2. Overall not the usual thought out blizzard quality patches, guess they are busy with different thing. To bad i always liked to fight off mutas as toss. PS: the change being on fleetbeacon is fairly simple, encourage carrier and ms use as a side effect. And it can't be lower tech because range 6 phoenix would ruin alot of terran play (they rip the raven for example and you couldn't protect it early game against range 6 phoenix). Also the only problem for lower toss players is mass mutas and it is no problem at all to throw in a fleet beacon before the zerg has mass mutas, that then could be fought off by half the army cost in phoenix, without any losses to the phoenix. | ||
|
thezanursic
5500 Posts
On February 11 2012 03:30 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote: The Snipe Change was really needed gg blizzOut of everything on the list snipe was the least needed if needed at all. | ||
|
Fishriot
United States621 Posts
| ||
| ||
