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On February 03 2012 02:53 aderum wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 00:43 Megaliskuu wrote:On February 02 2012 23:36 IdrA wrote: cuz its a shit game Thank you. God i hope you get banned. Your fucking quote should get you banned to start with. lol funny how people think progamers think sc2 is actually good. idra is the only one that will come out and say what many progamers actually think about sc2
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I hate when people say that "the game hasnt been figured out yet" Yes people will get better but I don't think this game will ever lose a large amount of the randomness it has.
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In the game that new strategies are still being found every season so we should expect more BO win. SC2 is just too young. MVP could dominate in short period of time though. This shows that if you are truly good then you can dominate. Another important thing is the players that we call them top player in SC2 are not actually that good. Almost 90% of the games I watched that top players lose is the game that they played worse than their opponent. MVP lost to Gumiho being one of them.
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On February 03 2012 02:58 blabber wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 02:53 aderum wrote:On February 03 2012 00:43 Megaliskuu wrote:On February 02 2012 23:36 IdrA wrote: cuz its a shit game Thank you. God i hope you get banned. Your fucking quote should get you banned to start with. lol funny how people think progamers think sc2 is actually good. idra is the only one that will come out and say what many progamers actually think about sc2
Then why compete as a progamer? Most of them would earn more money putting all that effort into a real job instead, a real job with vacation time, benefits, and a dependable solid income. Why spend 5-10 hours a day on something you don't just find boring, but you actually consider it to be shit?
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On February 02 2012 23:36 IdrA wrote: cuz its a shit game
Someone is sore about his recent performance in the GSL.
Well Greg, you can always go back to BW...
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let's face it, english football has 100 years worth of tradition, it's more figured out than a 1 years old game, hence stronger teams will be more consistent than stronger starcraft 2 player.
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On February 03 2012 03:33 brachester wrote: let's face it, english football has 100 years worth of tradition, it's more figured out than a 1 years old game, hence stronger teams will be more consistent than stronger starcraft 2 player.
Yeah compare it to UFC. Beside Silva and GSP the belt for each weight class moves around almost every other fight. Some sports work like that and to me it's not really a problem.
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On February 03 2012 03:37 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 03:33 brachester wrote: let's face it, english football has 100 years worth of tradition, it's more figured out than a 1 years old game, hence stronger teams will be more consistent than stronger starcraft 2 player. Yeah compare it to UFC. Beside Silva and GSP the belt for each weight class moves around almost every other fight. Some sports work like that and to me it's not really a problem. I think the harder the sports, the more likely chance we'll get a team that'' dominate everyone because they'll need extra practice or talents to overcome the skills curve, and only a few will be able to
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On February 03 2012 02:55 blabber wrote: because sc2 is a guessing game. the winner guessed right. the loser guessed wrong.
yeah that pretty much describes every SC2 game ever!
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Does this thread exist?
1. cuz the game is undeveloped 2. unit clumping which makes AOE hilarious 3. its starcraft
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People can call the game shit and still enjoy it. They truly retire from the game when it does become unfun. Idra actually wrote his letter of resignation out at the beginning of 2011, when he thought the game simply wasn't fun anymore. Playing steppes, delta quadrant, jungle basin, does that to you.
The vibe I get from most pros is that they don't enjoy sc2 all that much and treat it more like a job. I just haven't seen any sc2 pros except perhaps Nani, Idra and Huk that have showed the raw passion of what people like day 9 and Artosis had for BW. Players like Ret and Tyler just seem unmotivated most of the time, and probably practise half as much sc2 than they used to for bw.
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becouse this is a young luck(in the current metagame) based game.
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On February 02 2012 23:51 OpTiKDream wrote: tbh sc2 has more of a "gamble/luck/volatile" aspect compared to sc1. It just wont be as consistent as sc1. Players will easily have their up and downs and player skill gap from one another isnt as vast as one would think.
Yeah lets keep comparing a 1 year old game that no one has figured out yet to a game that had 10+ years to develop....
SC2 is still young, as entire tournaments are played over one weekend a bad day means you are out as lesser players can easily take a game/a bo3 of way better players atm mainly because the game is far from being figured out. And even with all of that GSL still has like 6 people winning like 14 tournaments and that number will be a lot more consistent once all the expansions are out and people become actually good at this game.
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On February 03 2012 01:39 SonOfBoxer wrote:I never thought I would agree with you, but I do, 100%. Now I understand why you have such a huge fanbase. Telling the truth is usually pretty offensive at times, but you manage to do it.
I'm pretty sure most people who play sc2 competitively agree that it is a terrible game. They just like the competition and this is the best we got.
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On February 03 2012 00:52 Massing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 00:48 Olinimm wrote:On February 03 2012 00:46 Massing wrote:On February 03 2012 00:45 Olinimm wrote:On February 03 2012 00:16 Massing wrote:On February 02 2012 23:36 IdrA wrote: cuz its a shit game why u play it then? money. Couldn't realistically make any in BW so of course he switched to SC2. wow this must be frustrating For Idra? What? He's stated he thinks BW is a superior game so obviously he would prefer it if it had been a viable option, no? playing a game u hate all day for the money
We all play the game: the game of life. It's a hell of a game, inherently imbalanced, but we play it anyway. It's a coinflip, and the situation we are born in could easily put us in a auto loss situation. Billions of people have jobs that they hate, but what can they do?
Sad to see idra post that, though he has had a rough week.
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Well my short take on this is that while Starcraft 2 is a great game, it's unbalanced upon itself. It really does feel within protoss and zerg that theyre not as flexible or being able to set the pace of a match like terran. Right now it feels like you've got one fat dude and a bunch slim dudes on a see-saw, the game is balanced, but it's easy to throw of balance.
The main thing I'd say is that the game as been balanced without all of it's units. Blizzard is basically prolonging Legacy of The Void which will be to SC2 that Brood war was to Starcraft. And due to that, they will have to make it as stable as possible until the new content is out.
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Hate to say it, but I kinda agree with Idra, maybe I wouldn't be THAT harsh with it, but sadly the game has way too much randomness, guessing and luck in it.
I still like it a lot, play it and try to become the best I can. I even very seriously was thinking about dedicating myself to it and trying to become a pro, but it looks just way too unstable to risk for it. At least I won't have to resist the urge to play Diablo 3, so I can train SC2 more, I guess :3
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Is GSL really unpredictable? I mean mvp & nestea won it three time and MMA & MC twice. Seems like the top players are always at the top.
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On February 02 2012 23:36 IdrA wrote: cuz its a shit game why do you even play this game?
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On February 03 2012 03:47 Klonere wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2012 02:55 blabber wrote: because sc2 is a guessing game. the winner guessed right. the loser guessed wrong. yeah that pretty much describes every SC2 game ever! including brood war. the brood war agenda dictates you have to think of it as "gamesense" instead of what is really luck.
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