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RiceAgainst
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1849 Posts
February 28 2013 04:04 GMT
#501
I hope the issues get fixed soon. I plan on playing and streaming the remakes, and SC2 campaign before HotS releases. Then again, I remember being able to beat the campaign my first time around by giving myself a dozen or so carriers through the editor; is there a way to significantly lower the difficulty (or has it already been put in?).

Anyways, I really appreciate all the time and effort gone into this mod. It's my favorite mod/custom!
thorvath
Profile Joined February 2013
5 Posts
February 28 2013 06:01 GMT
#502
On February 28 2013 13:04 RiceAgainst wrote:
I hope the issues get fixed soon. I plan on playing and streaming the remakes, and SC2 campaign before HotS releases. Then again, I remember being able to beat the campaign my first time around by giving myself a dozen or so carriers through the editor; is there a way to significantly lower the difficulty (or has it already been put in?).

Anyways, I really appreciate all the time and effort gone into this mod. It's my favorite mod/custom!


All the campaigns have a Normal/Hard option as far as I've seen (except tutorial levels). The Protoss one has like 5 difficulty options for whatever reason. I can't speak for the Hard modes but the Normal modes weren't that painful. I wouldn't say they were easy mode but they were quite doable.
Blazethesage
Profile Joined June 2012
108 Posts
February 28 2013 14:00 GMT
#503
One quick question: I've asked something similar to this before, but I wanted to elaborate somewhat.

In the final level of the Episode 5, To Chain the Beast, one of the objectives is to kill the three Cerebrates to weaken the Overmind's defenses. Last time I commented on this, I noted that the respective color Zerg do not become passive upon the Cerebrate's death in the same way as in Brood War. It was noted that this was an intentional change, as it made little sense to the creators that the zerg would simply stand around while being shot, and this much I don't mind.

However, it was also said that while the zerg do continue to defend themselves, the AI does cease all action. This, I am noticing, is not true. They do continue to gather resources and continue to make units. In particular, I noticed this in the form of air units to throw against my attacking Battlecruisers. Is it intentional that they continue creating units like this? As it stands now, a cease in attacks against your base (and the loss of their "special power" appears to be the only effect of the Cerebrate's death.

Just wanting to clarify *how* much of their continued activity is intentional, and how much they are actually supposed to stop doing.
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
March 01 2013 23:39 GMT
#504
I had to use google to find this damn thread :/ thanks for the ongoing work guys.
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
March 02 2013 00:52 GMT
#505
On August 26 2012 08:50 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Just some bugs for the devs.


You still have reaper nitro packs available in some of the later terran missions
Kerrigan has consume available bound to C and cloak on C?
Protoss mission 4, brought Jimmy and Tassadar to the beacon but it didn't end. - You need to walk them in to the beacon from the north (shrug)


Some suggestions:
In the theater briefing, I'd like to see at the start of the text it say the persons name, it's hard to tell the difference between Daggoth and Zasz for example so it should say
"Zasz: Agreed"
"Daggoth: Absoloutely" something like that
EDIT: - The text would be fine doing a pop up the way it does in the 3'rd chapter - the solution done there in the breifing room is perfect.
At the end of each mission where a movie would normally be put <in game movie zerg 2 "the hive"> or something like that - prompting people to know when to go hit up youtube
I'd like the 3'rd person mission to really be optional I'm glad the developers are being creative but that's not why we play SC


EDIT: Thank you regardless though, I finished 2 of the campaigns here and for the most part it was pretty seamless. I'm also impressed Blizzard hasn't lost their beans over including the SC1 assets - the voices really, really made up a lot of this. It pretty much felt close enough to SC1 for me.



Devs: Any thoughts on suggestions, to summarize
In ALL SIX CAMPAIGNS: when a movie should / would be played put up <See video 3.2 Zerg "The Hive" on youtube> so we know to pause and ALT-Tab to the net
When a character is speaking in the briefing room, add the characters names, in Zerg campaigns it's hard to know who is who

Otherwise, awesome work - about to re-finish 5 and try 6.
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-02 22:19:36
March 02 2013 22:00 GMT
#506
On January 14 2012 19:38 Telenil wrote:
The 1998 cinematics are not included in the maps, but you may find them on the Internet. Here are the list and the levels at the beginning of which they were played:
+ Show Spoiler +
Titles may spoil part of the plot, read them at your own peril.


Starcraft Brood War:
Introduction: "Brood War intro movie"
Protoss campaign ends: + Show Spoiler +
"Fury of the Xel'Naga"

Terran campaign ends: + Show Spoiler +
"UED Victory Report"

Zerg campaign ends: + Show Spoiler +
"The Ascension"





Are the links to all of the cinematics missing for the BW videos on youtube? Has anyone collated all of these?
I just finished #5 yesterday and I'd love to watch the cinematics but it's difficult to find them on youtube with all the other videos now.


Anyone know what precise links there are to which missions ?
EDIT: or is there only one video for each campaign in the expansion?
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
March 03 2013 01:00 GMT
#507
Oh yeah, there's a bug in campaign #6 just a small one
Defiler model is busted?
http://i.imgur.com/tePFFkl.jpg
Shake n Blake
Profile Joined November 2012
Canada159 Posts
March 03 2013 04:57 GMT
#508
Has anyone been able to beat Fury of the Swarm (Zerg Xpansion mission 6) on Hard difficulty? It is by far the most frustrating mission of the remake I've played yet. I absolutely despise Blizzard's map design for SC1 campaign missions, forcing us to mine off of one base with no real hope of expanding, and in this mission the slave zerg make your life a living hell when you try to retake your outer bases. My main eventually gets overrun, despite massing mutas to fly between both bases like clockwork. Eventually their guardian/muta/devourer ball becomes too much to handle off of just two bases. (Nearly impossible to hold any more than that.)
Always be searching for an epiphany
Josealtron
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 05:34:05
March 03 2013 05:12 GMT
#509
The last mission of The Fall is murdering me on brutal. The AI just sends wave after wave of mutalisks, ultralisks and hydralisks at you and I can barely hold them off. Even when holding them off, I certainly can't attack or expand, because I have no resources to defend any expansion or build an army, and eventually I just run out of resources and lose. I'm building SCVs and Probes constantly until my base is saturated, too. I can abuse the dark templar to help defend the protoss base but that still doesn't help against the air units...anyone have any advice for this? I might just have to move down to Very Hard...


EDIT: I think I realized my problem. I'm not gaining any minerals from my terran base. My scvs will mine the minerals but I will gain none. I haven't seen anyone else point out this bug..it seems strange that no one would point out something like this. Is there something I'm missing?
"If you give up on yourself, you give up on the world."
thorvath
Profile Joined February 2013
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 00:55:10
March 05 2013 00:54 GMT
#510
On March 03 2013 14:12 Josealtron wrote:
The last mission of The Fall is murdering me on brutal. The AI just sends wave after wave of mutalisks, ultralisks and hydralisks at you and I can barely hold them off. Even when holding them off, I certainly can't attack or expand, because I have no resources to defend any expansion or build an army, and eventually I just run out of resources and lose. I'm building SCVs and Probes constantly until my base is saturated, too. I can abuse the dark templar to help defend the protoss base but that still doesn't help against the air units...anyone have any advice for this? I might just have to move down to Very Hard...


EDIT: I think I realized my problem. I'm not gaining any minerals from my terran base. My scvs will mine the minerals but I will gain none. I haven't seen anyone else point out this bug..it seems strange that no one would point out something like this. Is there something I'm missing?


Pre-patch 2.0 the terran resources were available to you they just didn't show up in the counters. Try only using the terrans to gather minerals and see if you can't continue building once you run out of resources in the counter. The Fall uses an older mod which wasn't updated yet so there might be a legit bug. As for the strat I only played it on normal but I found that the protoss start in a bad position (they did in the original game as well). I move most of my forces and start a new protoss base in the upper right near the vespene sites and just sacrifice my starting base. It's easier to get a defense up if you dominate the top part of the map. I did notice near instant muta and defiler respawns when I went in for the final attack on the Overmind with my carrier fleet. It's pretty cheap but I think it's intentional.
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
March 05 2013 05:50 GMT
#511
Why do chapters 2 and 3 use a different mod file?
UltiBahamut
Profile Joined October 2010
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 07:19:59
March 05 2013 07:10 GMT
#512
I don't know Zzoram,

It doesn't matter Thorvath. I ran into the same issue that Josealtron ran into. My protoss base ran out of minerals and i couldn't repair the bunkers at my terran base (my mineral count was 0 but the terran was mining completely) I knew the terran had minerals because i could make marines/scvs. AND i was getting some of his money because i could build carriers. However i could not build a nexus or any other buildings.

EDIT: I havn't tried your run to the north and build there. But i'm playing it on brutal as well i dunno if i could get the cannons up in time.
and Josealtron, what i was doing is i went marine medic and made a line of 5 bunkers along the bottom. and used Repair with like 6ish scvs. I used raynor to yamato the ultras as much as i could to get them out of the way and if push comes to shove all of my scvs underneath raynor and mass repairing him vs the entire enemy army :D. and as for the protoss base i used 6ish cannons on both sides to tank since the dts clean up the bottom easily since they don't bring overlords while teching to carriers which deal with the mutas alright :D
"Thats Halo, Dont worry" Huk
Blazethesage
Profile Joined June 2012
108 Posts
March 05 2013 12:39 GMT
#513
Zzoram, they use an older mod because they were simply made earlier. Episode one was only recently (comparatively) updated to use the newer mod.
ethidium
Profile Joined March 2013
2 Posts
March 07 2013 22:15 GMT
#514
Thanks so much, this was really cool. The lack of resolution options kept me from ever going back to SC1 and this was a treat to play a week before HOTS release. Here are the issues I noticed while playing.

Major Issue
Zerg static defense buildings do not appear as options for drones to construct. Wasn't a big deal for me in the relatively easy original missions, but BW is much more difficult. I tried to fix it on my own in the editor, but after a few attempts I got frustrated and gave up!

Minor Issues
SC The Fall general, some of the difficulty options would not load a mission. Sorry I didn't keep track of which ones did not work.
SC The Fall Mission 9 Shadow Hunters, game locked up when cerebrates were killed, had to ctrl alt delete
SC BW general, Valkeries seem to do poor damage, its been many years since I played BW but I recall them really tearing up air units!
As noted above, I also had the problem with missing graphics for a few Zerg units and resource sharing problems on the last mission of The Fall.
Zoar
Profile Joined February 2013
United States39 Posts
March 07 2013 23:11 GMT
#515
have to morph defenses from a creep colony just like in original Starcraft
ethidium
Profile Joined March 2013
2 Posts
March 07 2013 23:57 GMT
#516
oh silly me, totally forgot that
credar
Profile Joined March 2013
1 Post
March 09 2013 01:14 GMT
#517
Hello. I was wondering if during 6th campaign, Dark Origins, as well as the Stukov missions, are included in it? Also, do you still need to follow the right directions to find them or are they are added as normal missions?
MjnMixael
Profile Joined March 2013
4 Posts
March 10 2013 05:26 GMT
#518
Wow this is fantastic. I was really hoping to find something like this. I'd love to have the old FMVs in it as well, but I suspect there's copyright issues? Someone else suggested a note in the missions saying to go watch it on YouTube before said mission. I think that's a great idea!

I'm also having a an issue with the last mission of the 3rd campaign (Protoss 1) where the briefing just skips through very quickly.
Blazethesage
Profile Joined June 2012
108 Posts
March 10 2013 12:33 GMT
#519
@Credar: Dark Origins is indeed included in Episode 6, however the Stukov missions are not, as they were extremely obscure and many people never learned about them. Hell, Resurrection IV (as I think it was called) was *never* officially released for the PC; it was confirmed as Canon by Metzen, but it was only ever officially released in the N64 version. Furthermore, the technical 2nd mission in that set of missions is really a multiplayer, and in fact only links to the first mission if there are three players, and only through the name of the "boss" character that appears in the 3rd faction.
Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
March 10 2013 23:15 GMT
#520
Thanks for this guys!

Really appreciate it. Love playing the campaign again!
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
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