• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:25
CEST 18:25
KST 01:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High14Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2[ASL20] Ro16 Preview Pt2: Turbulence10Classic Games #3: Rogue vs Serral at BlizzCon10
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes211BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch3Weekly Cups (Sept 8-14): herO & MaxPax split cups4WardiTV TL Team Map Contest #5 Tournaments1
StarCraft 2
General
Question about resolution & DPI settings SC2 StarCraft II 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four Why Storm Should NOT Be Nerfed – A Core Part of Pr Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!
Tourneys
Monday Nights Weeklies RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Stellar Fest KSL Week 80
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight Mutation # 489 Bannable Offense
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Old rep packs of BW legends BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High ASL ro8 Upper Bracket HYPE VIDEO
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro16 Group D BSL 2025 Warsaw LAN + Legends Showmatch
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Borderlands 3 General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread High temperatures on bridge(s)
TL Community
BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Kendrick, Eminem, and "Self…
Peanutsc
Too Many LANs? Tournament Ov…
TrAiDoS
I <=> 9
KrillinFromwales
A very expensive lesson on ma…
Garnet
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2053 users

MC leaves oGs, joins SK full time - Page 38

Forum Index > SC2 General
1803 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 91 Next
Xova
Profile Joined November 2010
United States342 Posts
January 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#741
I hope this is troll?
If you're a Starcraft fan, you're an Lim Yo Hwan fan.
CaptainApe
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany100 Posts
January 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#742
Gratz to SK-Gaming! Great pick up for them.

And gl to MC
"These marines must be Americans...there's no health insurance for them,." dApollo
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
January 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#743
Uhmmm... what? Talk about totally unexpected.
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
Florix
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany116 Posts
January 13 2012 17:54 GMT
#744
no troll
7P inc.
Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 18:25:11
January 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#745
Well, who's the guy who made the oGsMC-Burger for McDonalds?! :D
RIP DOUBLE TI OG | #18 never forget
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#746
im sure he's going to continue with the plethroa of friends he's made throughout his career, many oGs members included.

He's one of the most famous and well liked players in the game, not to mention one of the most talented, you think he won't have anyone that wants to train with him because he doesn't live in a team house? :boggle:
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#747
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.

You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that...

Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
January 13 2012 17:55 GMT
#748
Really his gonna live by himself? That will be the end of his success right there.
ZerO_0
Profile Joined October 2011
United States137 Posts
January 13 2012 17:56 GMT
#749
Wow completely unexpected. I think his skill will drop down without a team house.
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit. Aristotle
omgimonfire15
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States233 Posts
January 13 2012 17:56 GMT
#750
Hope this was right decision... he has no teammates right now. Perhaps they are trying to build up a new super team, using MC as their lure.
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
January 13 2012 17:56 GMT
#751
On January 14 2012 02:45 Eee wrote:
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene).


Who...cares? If the Korean players want to poo poo on the foreign scene, fine. Stay in Korea where there isn't nearly as much money in SC2 as there is in the foreign scene. Why do you think players like MC are putting so much focus on out of Korea tournaments? Because the money is there, and it's easier to come by then by playing in a month long tournament who's prize pool isn't really that big.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
Waterhaak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands525 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#752
Part of me is scared he might be suffer from the lack of a good training house. Part of me is happy because I think the reason he made this move is because he wants to participate at a lot of international events. But mostly, I'm confused. The fact that he is on SK doesn't change the fact that he is my favorite player, whatever he thinks is best for himself, I shall support!
버섯보다 빛나는
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#753
Damn that was unexpected. I wonder what the motivations were.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Brainling
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States660 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#754
On January 14 2012 02:55 MHT wrote:
Really his gonna live by himself? That will be the end of his success right there.


Cause I tell you what, MVP and NesTea just suck...that living by yourself thing is just a terrible idea.
"The welfare of each of us is dependent fundamentally upon the welfare of all of us." - Theodore Roosevelt
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#755
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.

You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that...

Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.

Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#756
MC now playing alone at home, I don't know about this move, especially since SK does not seem to want a real "team".
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 13 2012 17:57 GMT
#757
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.

You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that...

Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.

That's actually been pretty debatable these last two months, not so much MVP, but NesTea is in question for sure.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18055 Posts
January 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#758
What?! How did this just happen?! What happens to his training environment. Big blow to oGs btw. Sucks to lose what is generally still considered their ace.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
January 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#759
On January 14 2012 02:55 crms wrote:
im sure he's going to continue with the plethroa of friends he's made throughout his career, many oGs members included.

He's one of the most famous and well liked players in the game, not to mention one of the most talented, you think he won't have anyone that wants to train with him because he doesn't live in a team house? :boggle:

There is no lan in SC2 anyway, so everyone is on bnet practicing. And if you read interviews from players like MVP after games he practices with a lot of players from different teams, there is no reason not to.

It's not like in BW.
tDKyou
Profile Joined September 2011
United States202 Posts
January 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#760
What the hell? Didn't see that coming.. I have a feeling his results are going to dip without a practice house :l ..
SeleCT - RainBOw - Bomber - TaeJa - Mvp
Prev 1 36 37 38 39 40 91 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#24 PTR Edition
RotterdaM516
Harstem490
TKL 126
IndyStarCraft 116
SteadfastSC11
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 480
mouzHeroMarine 219
IndyStarCraft 116
TKL 108
JuggernautJason46
MindelVK 14
SteadfastSC 3
Harstem 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 38478
Calm 5774
Sea 5573
Flash 2861
Rain 2419
Bisu 2071
Horang2 1521
BeSt 669
Soma 282
firebathero 263
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 218
Hyuk 215
hero 213
actioN 212
Leta 211
Soulkey 203
Light 141
Mong 79
Sharp 56
soO 47
Movie 46
Backho 43
Aegong 42
sorry 28
Terrorterran 25
Rock 19
Shine 14
scan(afreeca) 10
IntoTheRainbow 9
Hm[arnc] 6
Dota 2
Gorgc8008
qojqva3625
Dendi1270
420jenkins459
Fuzer 266
Counter-Strike
oskar165
markeloff125
FunKaTv 45
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor207
Other Games
gofns21490
tarik_tv18933
FrodaN1153
Beastyqt360
Hui .327
XaKoH 116
QueenE92
Trikslyr64
KnowMe50
NeuroSwarm45
Rex16
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• IndyKCrew
• intothetv
StarCraft: Brood War
• ZZZeroYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4645
• masondota2379
• WagamamaTV262
League of Legends
• Nemesis4570
• Jankos1524
• TFBlade723
Other Games
• Shiphtur265
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 35m
Afreeca Starleague
17h 35m
Snow vs EffOrt
Wardi Open
18h 35m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 7h
LiuLi Cup
1d 18h
OSC
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Serral vs herO
Clem vs Reynor
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
BSL Team Wars
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2025 Chongqing Offline CUP
RSL Revival: Season 2
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Maestros of the Game
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
EC S1
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.