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Gratz to SK-Gaming! Great pick up for them.
And gl to MC
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Uhmmm... what? Talk about totally unexpected.
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Well, who's the guy who made the oGsMC-Burger for McDonalds?! :D
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im sure he's going to continue with the plethroa of friends he's made throughout his career, many oGs members included.
He's one of the most famous and well liked players in the game, not to mention one of the most talented, you think he won't have anyone that wants to train with him because he doesn't live in a team house? :boggle:
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On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.
You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that... Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else. Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.
Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.
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Really his gonna live by himself? That will be the end of his success right there.
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Wow completely unexpected. I think his skill will drop down without a team house.
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Hope this was right decision... he has no teammates right now. Perhaps they are trying to build up a new super team, using MC as their lure.
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On January 14 2012 02:45 Eee wrote:
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene).
Who...cares? If the Korean players want to poo poo on the foreign scene, fine. Stay in Korea where there isn't nearly as much money in SC2 as there is in the foreign scene. Why do you think players like MC are putting so much focus on out of Korea tournaments? Because the money is there, and it's easier to come by then by playing in a month long tournament who's prize pool isn't really that big.
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Part of me is scared he might be suffer from the lack of a good training house. Part of me is happy because I think the reason he made this move is because he wants to participate at a lot of international events. But mostly, I'm confused. The fact that he is on SK doesn't change the fact that he is my favorite player, whatever he thinks is best for himself, I shall support!
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Damn that was unexpected. I wonder what the motivations were.
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On January 14 2012 02:55 MHT wrote:
Really his gonna live by himself? That will be the end of his success right there.
Cause I tell you what, MVP and NesTea just suck...that living by yourself thing is just a terrible idea.
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On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.
You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that... Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else. Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression. Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.
Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.
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MC now playing alone at home, I don't know about this move, especially since SK does not seem to want a real "team".
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On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.
You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that... Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else. Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression. Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.
That's actually been pretty debatable these last two months, not so much MVP, but NesTea is in question for sure.
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What?! How did this just happen?! What happens to his training environment. Big blow to oGs btw. Sucks to lose what is generally still considered their ace.
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On January 14 2012 02:55 crms wrote:
im sure he's going to continue with the plethroa of friends he's made throughout his career, many oGs members included.
He's one of the most famous and well liked players in the game, not to mention one of the most talented, you think he won't have anyone that wants to train with him because he doesn't live in a team house? :boggle:
There is no lan in SC2 anyway, so everyone is on bnet practicing. And if you read interviews from players like MVP after games he practices with a lot of players from different teams, there is no reason not to.
It's not like in BW.
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What the hell? Didn't see that coming.. I have a feeling his results are going to dip without a practice house :l ..
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