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MC leaves oGs, joins SK full time - Page 37

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SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
January 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#721
On January 14 2012 02:41 sc2Ikill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:34 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:33 karpo wrote:
So is team house training overrated? Seems like even the koreans can't stand living in the small confined spaces for too long anymore. :D

As far as training goes, it's clearly not overrated. Only people with results without living in a team house are NesTea and MVP, and such thing has never happened in BW since they got established. Team houses produce the best players and thus the best results.

If MC wants something other than results, I guess it's fine.

The best part of that was how you said the only people with results without living in a team house are NesTea and MVP, just the two top players in the world right now. Obviously this shows that yes on average living in a team house produces better results but once in a while you can still see players thrive outside of that environment.

Anyway good luck to MC!


Welcome to TL! You seem pretty confident, so I'm assuming you're a lurker for some time (or else a PBU).

As I've said elsewhere, I'd rather not make any assumptions about what will happen to his skill. I don't know enough about his team practice etc (bear in mind that SuperNova stormed through his group today against his team-mates and Leenock and he practiced almost entirely on a smurf account on ladder) to make judgements.

I'm just glad the BossToss is winning things again, and I hope it stays this way.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
January 13 2012 17:44 GMT
#722
On January 14 2012 02:40 trinxified wrote:
Going to all foreign tournaments means no GSL appearances. Quite simply, it means he gave up on competing against mostly Koreans.

And where does it say that he's going to go to all foreign tournaments?
MagmaPunch
Profile Joined November 2011
Bulgaria536 Posts
January 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#723
Pff, SKMC sounds stupid ....
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9576 Posts
January 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#724
WTF I did not expect that at all...
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#725
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene).
hesho89
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada106 Posts
January 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#726
wow.. just wow... To me, MC is the face of oGs too. That's crazy.
eh?
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
January 13 2012 17:45 GMT
#727
Weekly piece of drama...but holy shit, did NOT see that coming.

Shouldn't he miss the oGs practice partners? The practice regime?
"more gg, more skill"
Carapace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Netherlands128 Posts
January 13 2012 17:46 GMT
#728
Wow totally didn`t see this coming!
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 13 2012 17:46 GMT
#729
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.

You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that...

Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
January 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#730
I wonder if there's bad blood between SK and OGS now? MC leaves OGS which immediately leads to the partnership with SK being dissolved.
I'm a noob
hatespam
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Romania161 Posts
January 13 2012 17:48 GMT
#731
37 pages of OMGWTF, and counting..
ask, and you shall have asked
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
January 13 2012 17:49 GMT
#732
im speechless
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#733
On January 14 2012 02:45 Chef0 wrote:
Pff, SKMC sounds stupid ....


There is a contrast. oGsMC or EG.MC flows off the tip of the tongue, but more power to him!
Stress
Profile Joined February 2011
United States980 Posts
January 13 2012 17:50 GMT
#734
Surprise of the month right here. I wonder how it will affect his play by not training in a pro-house?
"Touch my gosu hands." - Tastosis | | fOrGG // MC // Jaedong
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
January 13 2012 17:51 GMT
#735
who doesnt like money
Fleshcut
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany592 Posts
January 13 2012 17:51 GMT
#736
I also did not expect that but I think he will continue his practise with his old practise partners while earning more money/having more opportunities with SK. Well played MC.
Naxx
Profile Joined July 2011
South Africa33 Posts
January 13 2012 17:52 GMT
#737
On January 14 2012 02:48 hatespam wrote:
37 pages of OMGWTF, and counting..


you really hate spam dont ya? xD
FUCK U
Shichoo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada118 Posts
January 13 2012 17:53 GMT
#738
No more MC in the GSTL? >____<
@brixbeltran on Twitter. Follow me. ^____^
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
January 13 2012 17:53 GMT
#739
Whoa this is huge, but I don't think I will ever be able to call him anything but ogsmc, it flows too well.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
January 13 2012 17:53 GMT
#740
oh my god
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