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Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
January 13 2012 17:58 GMT
#761
Obviously this is just the beginning of something huge, I predict that MVP/Nestea/MMA/DRG will leave their respective teams and form the ''Justice League'' of SC2, SK WILL RULE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2744 Posts
January 13 2012 17:59 GMT
#762
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.

You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that...

Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.


They dont sleep at the teamhouse or go all the days, but they go often.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18476 Posts
January 13 2012 17:59 GMT
#763
On January 14 2012 02:57 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
[quote]
Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else.


Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.

Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.

Nada, Zenio. But yeah, it's hard. It seems especially hard for someone who based his play off his practice in the team house (rather than insane laddering or other practice methods).
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
January 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#764
On January 14 2012 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:57 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
[quote]

Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup?

It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.

Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.

Nada, Zenio. But yeah, it's hard. It seems especially hard for someone who based his play off his practice in the team house (rather than insane laddering or other practice methods).


Nada and Zenio can hardly be called successful at this point.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
January 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#765
Duh, what the fuck? oGs without MC won't be the same anymore me sad face, i love oGs b/c of MC.
GodOfWar
Profile Joined December 2011
870 Posts
January 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#766
On January 14 2012 02:58 Coal wrote:
Obviously this is just the beginning of something huge, I predict that MVP/Nestea/MMA/DRG will leave their respective teams and form the ''Justice League'' of SC2, SK WILL RULE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


certainly, and I will make "Team Ridicolous Pro" with Flash, Bisu and JaeDong.
Mvp Moon Squirtle
KryptoStorm
Profile Joined August 2010
England377 Posts
January 13 2012 18:01 GMT
#767
What the ffffffff, I mean i'm insanely happy to see MC join a European team, are SK building a super team for Sc2? My god this could be fantastic.
사랑해요
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
January 13 2012 18:02 GMT
#768
Never saw this one coming at all...interesting
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 13 2012 18:02 GMT
#769
On January 14 2012 02:56 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:45 Eee wrote:
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene).


Who...cares? If the Korean players want to poo poo on the foreign scene, fine. Stay in Korea where there isn't nearly as much money in SC2 as there is in the foreign scene. Why do you think players like MC are putting so much focus on out of Korea tournaments? Because the money is there, and it's easier to come by then by playing in a month long tournament who's prize pool isn't really that big.


And yet MVP and Nestea have earnt more than anybody almost entirely on the back of GSL money.

Most of MC's money is from GSL too.
Mvp, Nestea, Leenock, MC, Oz, Jjakji!
NoDamnCat
Profile Joined January 2012
15 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#770
SK are definitely going to forge a SC2 team. Very exiting. I just wonder if this was done under the table. Looks like that with this sudden cancellation of the oGs/SK partnership.

QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#771
Code S is successful by my standards.
Peanutbutter717
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States240 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#772
Its gonna be so weird trying to say other than "oGsMC" gonna have to get used to a new name (just like HuK was hard to get used to)
Marine -> masters
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#773
On January 14 2012 02:28 Spuick wrote:
Probably bad for his overall skill. dissapointed.

My thoughts summed up nicely. I thought MC was in it to be the best.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10343 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#774
Disappointing news . I guess he's doing this to participate in more foreign tournaments? oGs won't be the same without him...
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bay_2002
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany105 Posts
January 13 2012 18:03 GMT
#775
Never...
GodZo
Profile Joined November 2011
Italy224 Posts
January 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#776
GL to MC
프로토스, Yellow, GdZ
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
January 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#777
Haha, wow. This won't be good for MC's career, but i'm sure it will be good for his wallet.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
January 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#778
On January 14 2012 03:03 EchelonTee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:28 Spuick wrote:
Probably bad for his overall skill. dissapointed.

My thoughts summed up nicely. I thought MC was in it to be the best.

Nobody wants to be (T)TheBest
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
January 13 2012 18:04 GMT
#779
What about Nada? Does this mean that Nada is no longer part of SK?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
January 13 2012 18:05 GMT
#780
;(( i still love ogs, but mc was the biggest reason for that love and they wont be able to use him in teamleagues and he fit in so well there and... Sighhh
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
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