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Obviously this is just the beginning of something huge, I predict that MVP/Nestea/MMA/DRG will leave their respective teams and form the ''Justice League'' of SC2, SK WILL RULE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:08 purecarnagge wrote:
SK burnt the Korean bridge, I feel that Koreans are tired of getting there players poached. GL to MC it was his choice.
You can't fault someone for making more $$ if the market is going to pay them that... Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else. Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression. Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.
They dont sleep at the teamhouse or go all the days, but they go often.
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On January 14 2012 02:57 mordk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:10 mordk wrote:
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Sure, thing is, if because of this he loses the practice regimen, the team house, the practice partners, and his play starts to fade away, in the long run, he'll get less money. It's shortsighted, maybe he wants to retire soon and do something else. Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression. Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question. Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.
Nada, Zenio. But yeah, it's hard. It seems especially hard for someone who based his play off his practice in the team house (rather than insane laddering or other practice methods).
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On January 14 2012 02:59 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:57 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:On January 14 2012 02:19 Longshank wrote:
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Where did you get all this info on his new practice setup? It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own. Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though. Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach. Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL. That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things. I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad. On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression. Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question. Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house. Nada, Zenio. But yeah, it's hard. It seems especially hard for someone who based his play off his practice in the team house (rather than insane laddering or other practice methods).
Nada and Zenio can hardly be called successful at this point.
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Duh, what the fuck? oGs without MC won't be the same anymore  me sad face, i love oGs b/c of MC.
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On January 14 2012 02:58 Coal wrote:
Obviously this is just the beginning of something huge, I predict that MVP/Nestea/MMA/DRG will leave their respective teams and form the ''Justice League'' of SC2, SK WILL RULE ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
certainly, and I will make "Team Ridicolous Pro" with Flash, Bisu and JaeDong.
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What the ffffffff, I mean i'm insanely happy to see MC join a European team, are SK building a super team for Sc2? My god this could be fantastic.
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Never saw this one coming at all...interesting
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On January 14 2012 02:56 Brainling wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:45 Eee wrote:
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene). Who...cares? If the Korean players want to poo poo on the foreign scene, fine. Stay in Korea where there isn't nearly as much money in SC2 as there is in the foreign scene. Why do you think players like MC are putting so much focus on out of Korea tournaments? Because the money is there, and it's easier to come by then by playing in a month long tournament who's prize pool isn't really that big.
And yet MVP and Nestea have earnt more than anybody almost entirely on the back of GSL money.
Most of MC's money is from GSL too.
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SK are definitely going to forge a SC2 team. Very exiting. I just wonder if this was done under the table. Looks like that with this sudden cancellation of the oGs/SK partnership.
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Code S is successful by my standards.
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Its gonna be so weird trying to say other than "oGsMC" gonna have to get used to a new name (just like HuK was hard to get used to)
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On January 14 2012 02:28 Spuick wrote:
Probably bad for his overall skill. dissapointed.
My thoughts summed up nicely. I thought MC was in it to be the best.
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Disappointing news . I guess he's doing this to participate in more foreign tournaments? oGs won't be the same without him...
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Haha, wow. This won't be good for MC's career, but i'm sure it will be good for his wallet.
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On January 14 2012 03:03 EchelonTee wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 02:28 Spuick wrote:
Probably bad for his overall skill. dissapointed. My thoughts summed up nicely. I thought MC was in it to be the best.
Nobody wants to be  TheBest
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What about Nada? Does this mean that Nada is no longer part of SK?
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;(( i still love ogs, but mc was the biggest reason for that love and they wont be able to use him in teamleagues and he fit in so well there and... Sighhh
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EPT
