• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:38
CEST 18:38
KST 01:38
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced53BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? BW General Discussion Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 715 users

MC leaves oGs, joins SK full time - Page 40

Forum Index > SC2 General
1803 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 91 Next
RabidSeagull
Profile Joined December 2010
United States220 Posts
January 13 2012 18:06 GMT
#781
That's crazy. Kinda feel bad for oGs, is SK looking to start getting more involved in sc2? I mean, you'd have to assume the answer to that question is yes grabbing MC like that
I be the body dropper, the heartbeat stopper. Child educator, plus head amputator
BaconofWar
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States369 Posts
January 13 2012 18:06 GMT
#782
Oh.. my god. This was a trade i didn't see coming......
Well, C9 is the best right now
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
January 13 2012 18:07 GMT
#783
Wow, that looks really amazing. I think he'll do quite good, just I hope he won't get lazy once he lives at his own house
BO$$TOSS FIGHTING!
750/750 emotions fully stacked
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
January 13 2012 18:07 GMT
#784
TT
This is a sad day.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
January 13 2012 18:07 GMT
#785
Whoa.

I love crazymoving
ShoKakuUtena
Profile Joined May 2011
United States304 Posts
January 13 2012 18:07 GMT
#786
Noooo, MC...T_T He's like the face of oGS. Guess oGs will have to rely primarily on the success of ForGG to propel them in team leagues.
世界を革命する力を。
KicKDoG
Profile Joined December 2003
Sweden765 Posts
January 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#787
wait......what?!? isn't SK pretty inactive? Guess not if they just recruited MC?
this is not some kind of joke i guess?
http://www.twitter.com/KicKDoG_LoL baylife plox?
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
January 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#788
wtf? that was unexpected.

but i already had a feeling like mc was focusing more on international events than on gsl recently. no way in hell players like mvp or nestea would have risked their gsl life for something like the homestory cup.

for SK, it seems to me to be a good move. they get one of the best players in the world who is incredibly popular with foreign fans and will generate lots of attention for their whole sc2 division.

for MC himself, however, i think this is a bad idea. the loss of practice partners in the ogs house will hurt him badly in the long run.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
January 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#789
Out of all foreign teams, did it really have to be SK? They have no players

I guess we're going to see new announcements from SK during the next week. They're probably picking up SangHo?
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
January 13 2012 18:08 GMT
#790
On January 14 2012 02:56 Brainling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:45 Eee wrote:
I think this will hurt the korean players view on the foreign scene a lot (EG already hurt the way the korean teams viewed the foreign scene).


Who...cares? If the Korean players want to poo poo on the foreign scene, fine. Stay in Korea where there isn't nearly as much money in SC2 as there is in the foreign scene. Why do you think players like MC are putting so much focus on out of Korea tournaments? Because the money is there, and it's easier to come by then by playing in a month long tournament who's prize pool isn't really that big.


very shortsighted assessment. as much as I am a BW elitist, I recognise that the day will come when proleague teams pick up sc2 divisions. it may be as big as BW, it may not be...

but there is more money to be made in this crowd

[image loading]
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
sOm
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
January 13 2012 18:11 GMT
#791
Wonder who SK is looking to pick up as we speak.
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
January 13 2012 18:11 GMT
#792
And here I was hoping oGs-tl was going to win the GSTL this season, oh well. I wonder if we will hear a bunch of koreans complaing about MC accepting "dirty money" like they always insult the foreigner players for doing.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
babybell
Profile Joined June 2011
776 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#793
On January 14 2012 03:11 sOm wrote:
Wonder who SK is looking to pick up as we speak.

MKP!!!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#794
6 months from now he won't be SK.MC, he'll be CodeB.MC
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#795
oh god mc why?!
m0l0ch
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland13 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#796
Can't say I saw that coming... Good Luck MC!
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#797
On January 14 2012 03:01 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 02:59 Acrofales wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:57 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:46 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:43 SupLilSon wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:37 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:28 mordk wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:24 Longshank wrote:
On January 14 2012 02:21 mordk wrote:
[quote]
It says in the OP he's leaving the team house and will start living on his own.


Doesn't say anything about his practice regimen or losing practice partners though.

Of course people will play with him, that's pretty obvious. But living in a team house means a stricter practice regimen, and constant SC2 strategy/build/timing/macro/etc discussion, while it also has the advantage of a coach.

Even if people from oGs still practice with him, it's not the same, it's detrimental to practice. He might soon dissapear from the GSL if he and SK don't have something special prepared. Which is why I think it's a shortsighted move, or MC is aiming for something other than the GSL.

That's jumping to conclusion though based on guesses. You don't know yet what his practice regimen will look like, for all we know SK could rent a spot at one of the pro houses for him to practice at. You also don't know what his practice was like inside the house. People always assumed HuK learned tons of 'sitting next to MC' when in fact they helped each other out only on a few occasions during HuKs time in the oGs house. Stop assuming things.


I agree. It's pretty indisputable that the team house environment is highly productive but not every player needs or can handle that living condition. We've already seen a few Korean players leave Korean teams because they don't want the practice house environment. Playing/talking/thinking about SC2 12+ hours a day can cause burnout and ultimately a lack of motivation and decline in performance. And yes, everyone assumed HuK was getting better because he had oGs protoss to help him but in reality he had very little help from the Koreans earlier. I think its safe to say this is a huge change for MC but we don't know yet if it will be good or bad.

On the flipside, koreans who have left the team house practice regimen have either dissapeared into near oblivion, or noticeably dropped their playing level, or slowed down on their progression.


Someone else in this thread mentioned that both MVP and NesTea live outside the team house. Not sure if that's true but if it is... MVP and NesTea are the two best players in the world. No question.

Yeah but they never entered the system in the first place, they're an anomaly. There's really no other really successful players who are even code S that don't live in a team house.

Nada, Zenio. But yeah, it's hard. It seems especially hard for someone who based his play off his practice in the team house (rather than insane laddering or other practice methods).


Nada and Zenio can hardly be called successful at this point.


Yea, code S is hardly successful... just be quiet, seriously. How shortsighted of a statement is that.
Harrad
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
1003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 18:14:17
January 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#798
As someone stated before, it's a logical decision for MC since he really wants to continue to attend foreign tournaments. The sad part however is that while he won't instantly get worse, I think being removed from the oGs house's practice evironment will severely hurt the effectiveness of his practice and lastly his skill level. It's a good decision for someone who wants to partake in as many tournaments as possible for boosting one's income and exposure, but a bad one for someone who wants to continue to grow as a player.
djfoxmccloud
Profile Joined July 2011
France185 Posts
January 13 2012 18:13 GMT
#799
good luck mc ! Hope sk buy some good players to practice with ya !
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
January 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#800
interesting

wonder how not being in a team house effects him
Prev 1 38 39 40 41 42 91 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 3
ByuN vs ShoWTimELIVE!
MaxPax vs TBD
WardiTV731
IndyStarCraft 120
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Playoff - Day 2/2 - Final
Mihu vs FengziLIVE!
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
ZZZero.O285
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .296
SpeCial 191
mcanning 128
IndyStarCraft 125
BRAT_OK 60
ProTech58
MindelVK 40
ForJumy 25
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5025
Horang2 812
Mini 690
Hyuk 483
ggaemo 324
ZZZero.O 285
firebathero 284
Mong 268
Larva 138
Terrorterran 18
[ Show more ]
Sharp 8
sas.Sziky 1
Dota 2
Gorgc6090
qojqva3629
420jenkins1276
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Reynor83
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv7742
fl0m5234
ScreaM1171
sgares275
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor616
Liquid`Hasu542
Other Games
mouzStarbuck222
oskar156
ArmadaUGS140
JuggernautJason16
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV41
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH173
• Gemini_19 72
• davetesta47
• iHatsuTV 11
• Reevou 5
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV815
League of Legends
• Jankos1584
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
18h 22m
OSC
1d 7h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.