EPTHe's been in Korea for a very very long time now and has not produced anything noteworthy. It makes perfect sense to separate on eSahara's side.
cArn and eSahara parts ways - Page 5
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
He's been in Korea for a very very long time now and has not produced anything noteworthy. It makes perfect sense to separate on eSahara's side. | ||
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cyclone25
Romania3344 Posts
On January 12 2012 22:10 Myles wrote: To say you released cArn because he lacks motivation seems dishonest. You can say he hasn't produced results, or hasn't really been apart of the team, or doesn't have the talent, but to question his dedication seems insane. Perhaps his dedication has waned recently, but not going to GSL qualifier because you're going to get stomped doesn't seem very conclusive. Even if he lost in the GSL qualifier, it was good advertisement for eShara to have a player represent them. People would have talked about him in forums, etc. He refused to do that, so what exactly does eSahara gain from having him in the roster? | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On January 12 2012 21:40 Rekrul wrote: if i were a team i'd expect my player to just sack up and go take the beating even even if my player was going in with 0 confidence in his chance to qualify, all about experience yo (but at the same time it's frustrating and annoying to do something u have 0 confidence in lol) and wtf, there needs to be a subforum for 'x player joins x team' or 'x player leaves x team' 10 new threads a day with this bs there was a short lived staff write up posted like twice.... for team transfers and stuff for the week. i guess they just couldnt be bothered anymore On January 12 2012 22:13 seiferoth10 wrote: I guess this is why teams like to give vague statements on players leaving teams? Just look at the backlash they get when they try to be more specific. He's been in Korea for a very very long time now and has not produced anything noteworthy. It makes perfect sense to separate on eSahara's side. i think people are pissed off because they said lacked dedication. they are kicking him because he didnt take part in code a qualifiers, its up to the public to decide if that shows a lack of dedication. their feelings on the matter should stay internal | ||
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DirtyCash
Canada189 Posts
On January 12 2012 21:24 zere wrote: As Aphasie pointed out, it really feels like this serves as an excuse to kick him out. The wording of this news ("plus que délicate", "expulsé de la GOM house,", "très décevants", "manque de motivation") is a very straight-forward effort to discredit cArn, and that's what tips me off here. I feel this is inappropriate, a disgrace. I am afraid you're mistaken. The wording of the news on their site is perfectly professional, no discredit, no hard feelings. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On January 12 2012 22:15 cyclone25 wrote: Even if he lost in the GSL qualifier, it was good advertisement for eShara to have a player represent them. People would have talked about him in forums, etc. He refused to do that, so what exactly does eSahara gain from having him in the roster? I think it's perfectly fine that they released him from the team. I just wished eShara would have said 'cArn doesn't provide anything for the team so we don't see a reason to keep him around'. Saying he isn't dedicated, when everything we've ever seen from cArn scream dedication despite huge odds against him, seems like an excuse. I'd like to have more details; and another post says that he's stopped training and his ladder rank reflects this. But they should have mentioned that in the release. | ||
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DarKFoRcE
Germany1215 Posts
just because he has been in korea practising (?) for so long does not automatically mean he is or will be a good player at some point. it also does not mean that esahara has some kind of obligation to keep him in the team. just look at tlpd: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=3260&part=games&league=standard http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-international&type=players&id=3260&part=games&league=standard and it should become quite obvious why esahara doesnt want to keep him.. | ||
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Vapaach
Finland994 Posts
I am not going to even start talking about results here, but they might also be a part of why this happened. | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
He's obviously dedicated to becoming a progamer in SC2, that's obvious. Was he dedicated to eSahara and providing them with what they expected of him? Judging by his absence from the qualifier, it doesn't seem so. | ||
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Delinius
United States324 Posts
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Boof
Canada77 Posts
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
They handled this so badly, you don't criticize players you release so publicly especially in such a biased and opinionated manner. Every other single esport team out there are always smart enough to just say "part ways amicably," or "by mutual agreement." Maybe he is going to play DOTA2 competitively, who knows but they didn't need to try make him look like a bad guy for no reason other than to cover their own ass. I have never seen a esport team that is so terrible at PR and press releases in the past decade since they started to crop up. | ||
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Surili
United Kingdom1141 Posts
 Good luck to Esahara and Carn. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46498 Posts
but if the OP has nothing to do with either player, I feel like an announcement like this should have been made by one of the two relevant parties, to avoid inaccuracies. There are a lot more unnecessary accusations and bias here than would have occurred if we had gotten information from cArn or eSahara. Oh well. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
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Leetley
1796 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Sacrifice is great, but he obviously underestimated the level of skill he needs to be at when he started on his pro-gaming career. Don't hate them for letting an average player go, they probably just let the contract expire. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
- The imposter scandal - The Naama blunder - This (But according to some of the post in the thread i kind of agree with them, not listening to Pros coach etc.) Hopefully they can clean up their image, I personally feel they have very good intentions and ambitions. | ||
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Baituri
Netherlands1501 Posts
He only participated in the ESWC because he was the Moroccan invite. (He went 1-4 in his group) Was never really close to getting in the GSL if I am correct. Why should they keep him? | ||
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sereniity
Sweden1159 Posts
The list the guy made earlier about cArns dedication compared to eSaharas sums it up imo. | ||
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