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Marou
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1371 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 14:34:06
January 12 2012 11:30 GMT
#1
eSahara has thanks (T)cArn.

(T)cArn was the first eSahara player along with (T)FuRy.
After being expulsed from the GOM house in order to make place for the FXO team, cArn has competed in the ESWC and PPSL without success.
Lately he was training at the ProS House, but he refused to attend the lastest GSL qualifier because he though his skill level was not high enougth to even try.

eSahara sees that as a terrible lack of motivation, thus has choose to part ways with cArn.

official source : http://www.esahara.net/news/1608


I think this is a sad news, even if cArn has never reach any success, his sacrifice and motivation are inspiring to all other gamers. I don't understand why he didn't even tried to qualify...
I hope he stays in Korea and manage to be on GSL one day...although i totally understand the position of eSahara, this is not an acceptable behavior for a progamer.

edit : i'm getting a lot of shit so let me clarify some points :
- i have nothing to do with eSahara.
- i love cArn and i think his dedication is amasing. (yes i read his blogs to, and i love them)
- I didn't want to make it look like he achieved nothing, but truth is, he is playing full time since beta, he is aiming for high goals and didn't succeed yet even if he came close.


From this thread :

On January 12 2012 20:49 RetoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:36 Tidus Mino wrote:
Your post is really bias, and it's obvious you are affiliated with eSahara. If he felt he would get crushed in the qualifiers, of course he would not want to try as to lose badly would be hugely demotivating.


He's not eSahara related, and cArn didn't practice past few month, we can't keep a player not showing any dedication.

Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:42 gregnog wrote:
Dont worry they have.... Madelisk?


MaddeLisk trains very hard with Naama, Jimpo, Naugrim, Satiini, Check... and is really involved into eSahara's team life. And she's in the talented line up whereas cArn was considered as pro. I personally have a lot of respect for cArn, i consider him as a friend, but he didn't show anything good since he's in eSahara.

Dopani (RS manager/proS manager) told that cArn wasn't practincing and playing DotA. Based on his ladder rank, cArn is not training that hard for now.


On January 12 2012 23:18 cArn- wrote:
I'm bit tired of people not knowing a quarter of what is up to jump on conclusion, I didn't want to say anything about all this but if people are to say things that are not true I guess I'll have to shed some lights.

I'm gonna be very short as it was something I was gonna talk about in the rest of my blogs anyway. So long story short, I joined eSahara, they couldn't provide me with the possibility to pratice since I left the GOM house, so I wasn't able to practice for 5 or 6 months.
Guess what, when you can't practice for this long, you're not gonna have any results.

For the qualifiers I had a bit over a month of practice at the ProS house, but I was still not in good shape enough to be able to win it, and if I were to go to the qualifiers it would be to win. It wasn't going to happen this time, and I had more than enough experience playing in every single one of the previous qualifiers (except the one when I was in Europe for ESWC).

There also was no real coverage whatsover of the qualifiers this time so it's not like there was any exposure to get out of it for the team, instead of continuing the disappointments that were ESWC and PPSL I would rather get my skill level and my confidence in my game back, improve as much as possible and be ready to win the next qualifier.

I just find really disappointing that eSahara tries to discredit me like this, that they interpret me not going as a lack of motivation, sure no problem that's what they think, but to then try to make people think I'm not practising is just not something you do. Especially since I choose to stick with them when I had better options just because I felt they were going in the right direction and had the right ideas and that we could build something together. I was wrong, it was just talking.
I could have things to say about what went wrong with eSahara, but I'm not gonna be that guy who crosses the line even though they went out of their way to spread misinformation about me.

It's fine, I know what I want, people who know me and know the details about all of this are supporting me, and those who don't have all the informations have to keep this in mind : they don't have all the informations.

So thanks to those who are still supporting me. The ones who are doubting me it's fine, it's just a matter of time before you are made wrong.

I know it, people who know me know it, eSahara knows it.

Just next time ... say it how it is : no results. Which I obviously understand, but that's all there is to it.


I'm not going into further details now, everything is gonna be covered in my next blogs when I get to that point.
As for this issue there is not much more to say.

GL

twitter@RickyMarou
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:49:20
January 12 2012 11:34 GMT
#2
If that is honestly the reason they dropped him, then that's fucking bullshit. cArn is an incredibly hard working player. He decides not to attend ONE TIME and they drop him even though he's sacrificed everything to try and participate in GSL? What the fuck, eSahara.

EDIT: If you're going to be disrespectful and say shit like "Who cares, cArn has achieved nothing."

Read his blogs before you post.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=299855
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=300320
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=301987
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:49:22
January 12 2012 11:36 GMT
#3
Commentator
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 12:34:41
January 12 2012 11:36 GMT
#4
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 12 2012 11:37 GMT
#5
Lol so now he doesn't have any practice environment again?
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 12:07:44
January 12 2012 11:37 GMT
#6
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 12 2012 11:39 GMT
#7
First get good then move to Korea is the story to learn here...
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 12 2012 11:39 GMT
#8
On January 12 2012 20:36 GTR wrote:
so he gets kicked out because he decided to not attend a qualifier because he didn't feel prepared? lol what a joke of an organisation. first the pepe thing now this.


Completely agree. This guy has been grinding his ass out with almost no money whatsoever trying to live a dream and lol, "lack of motivation". what a joke.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
January 12 2012 11:39 GMT
#9
On January 12 2012 20:39 Technique wrote:
First get good then move to Korea is the story to learn here...

Uh, no it's not. In fact, it's completely irrelevant.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
January 12 2012 11:41 GMT
#10
I cant help but feel terribly sorry for Carn
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
January 12 2012 11:42 GMT
#11
Dont worry they have.... Madelisk?
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:43:31
January 12 2012 11:42 GMT
#12
Well, if he's not good enough to even attend a GSL qualifier, it's probably rational to let him go. Work ethic isn't the only standard.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Epoch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada257 Posts
January 12 2012 11:43 GMT
#13
On January 12 2012 20:42 AndAgain wrote:
Well, if he's not good enough to even attend a GSL qualifier, it's probably rational to let him go.


I agree. Why not atleast try?
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:45:40
January 12 2012 11:44 GMT
#14
cArn's been in korea for ages now, granted he has little results, shame to see him go. I like to think his time spent in Korea translates to how much he's been training, or at least his dedication to be the best, but I honestly can't make that definitive statement.
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
January 12 2012 11:45 GMT
#15
The OP missed off the bottom part:


Following what has been interpreted as a lack of motivation to eSahara decided to dispose of Carn, who was not involved in leagues per team (due to the lag caused by the different servers)

(Google translate)

When you consider that:
1) He's not had success in the non-GSL tournaments he's participated in
2) He decided not to participate in GSL qualifiers
3) He's not taking part in any team events for eSahara

You can understand why they feel he's not worth keeping on.
The motivation thing is probably what tipped them over the edge.

No disrespect to cArn, he's been in Korea trying for a long time, but if you decide not to even bother trying in GSL qualifiers because you don't think you will make it, what incentive is there for the team to keep him on, when he's not even really a participating member of the team?
HOLY CHECK!
mazqo
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland368 Posts
January 12 2012 11:46 GMT
#16
Dudes, cArn has achieved nothing in this game. Who gives a shit if he sacrifices something to go to and try to be professional sc2 player, shit happens, no talent, move on.
Glioburd
Profile Joined April 2008
France1911 Posts
January 12 2012 11:46 GMT
#17
Bye cArn.
"You should hate loosing, but you should never fear defeat." NaDa.
Detrimentally
Profile Joined June 2011
United States78 Posts
January 12 2012 11:47 GMT
#18
this is disguting. eSahara has lost my support and I hope they fail (or waste all of their money on more fake players).
I say what I want to say and do what I want to do. There's no in between. People will either love you for it or hate you for it.
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
January 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#19
eSahara is pretty weird o.o
RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 11:56:10
January 12 2012 11:49 GMT
#20
On January 12 2012 20:36 Tidus Mino wrote:
Your post is really bias, and it's obvious you are affiliated with eSahara. If he felt he would get crushed in the qualifiers, of course he would not want to try as to lose badly would be hugely demotivating.


He's not eSahara related, and cArn didn't practice past few month, we can't keep a player not showing any dedication.

On January 12 2012 20:42 gregnog wrote:
Dont worry they have.... Madelisk?


MaddeLisk trains very hard with Naama, Jimpo, Naugrim, Satiini, Check... and is really involved into eSahara's team life. And she's in the talented line up whereas cArn was considered as pro. I personally have a lot of respect for cArn, i consider him as a friend, but he didn't show anything good since he's in eSahara.

Dopani (RS manager/proS manager) told that cArn wasn't practincing and playing DotA. Based on his ladder rank, cArn is not training that hard for now.
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