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vx70GTOJudgexv
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3161 Posts
January 13 2012 13:04 GMT
#321
On January 13 2012 18:35 mazqo wrote:
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On January 13 2012 14:33 Wolf wrote:
When cArn says he couldn't practise for a few months, he doesn't mean "Well, for these months I didn't play StarCraft and I was walking around Seoul going to Cat Cafés and singing Christmas Carols". He means that he wasn't able to train in ideal conditions. Being with cArn through a lot of this transition period, I know it was difficult for him to train. Training in PC방 is not the same thing as being in a pro house, and it affected him mentally. I don't know anything about his training in the ProS House, but this guy did not back down when he was in the GOM House. And he put in the time.

How stupid is that? Why would cArn deserve to be in pro house? He is propably average grandmaster/top master level in eu/na. And you know what, 99.99% of foreigner progamers arent in pro house, still they train and dont cry "I CANNOT TRAIN IN IDEAL CONDITIONS" trollol.


When you sacrifice pretty much everything to live in a foreign country to try and make it and a team picks you up knowing this, you'd at least expect them to give you the chance to train in a ideal environment - especially when it appears that they lead you to believe this would be the case in the first place. I doubt cArn signed with any team that said "Well we can't support you in Korea at all whatsoever," being that it was his goal to succeed in Korea.
(-_-) BW for ever. #1 Iris fan.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
January 13 2012 13:10 GMT
#322
On January 13 2012 22:04 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
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On January 13 2012 18:35 mazqo wrote:
On January 13 2012 14:33 Wolf wrote:
When cArn says he couldn't practise for a few months, he doesn't mean "Well, for these months I didn't play StarCraft and I was walking around Seoul going to Cat Cafés and singing Christmas Carols". He means that he wasn't able to train in ideal conditions. Being with cArn through a lot of this transition period, I know it was difficult for him to train. Training in PC방 is not the same thing as being in a pro house, and it affected him mentally. I don't know anything about his training in the ProS House, but this guy did not back down when he was in the GOM House. And he put in the time.

How stupid is that? Why would cArn deserve to be in pro house? He is propably average grandmaster/top master level in eu/na. And you know what, 99.99% of foreigner progamers arent in pro house, still they train and dont cry "I CANNOT TRAIN IN IDEAL CONDITIONS" trollol.


When you sacrifice pretty much everything to live in a foreign country to try and make it and a team picks you up knowing this, you'd at least expect them to give you the chance to train in a ideal environment - especially when it appears that they lead you to believe this would be the case in the first place. I doubt cArn signed with any team that said "Well we can't support you in Korea at all whatsoever," being that it was his goal to succeed in Korea.


Just what I wanted to say! As cArn said, no results. Leave it at that.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Ym!r
Profile Joined August 2011
131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 13:23:52
January 13 2012 13:17 GMT
#323



Switchy
Profile Joined June 2011
343 Posts
January 13 2012 13:18 GMT
#324
Not very nice by eSahara to put cArn in a bad light like that. But still, no results. Time to draw conclusions, pack your bags and get a real job.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 14 2012 03:56 GMT
#325
Carn hopefully will find somewhere... he deserves it!
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
January 14 2012 04:05 GMT
#326
Sad to hear that cArn wasn't able to get the support he needed from eSahara. I would love to see Quantic pick him up and put him in the startale house.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
January 14 2012 05:13 GMT
#327
Regardless of how well cArn is performing as a player eSahara management should have handled it better.

A more professional outfit would have simply stated that they're parting ways with the player and wish him well in his future endeavors. No drama just goodbye and goodluck.

Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Orracle
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States314 Posts
January 14 2012 05:14 GMT
#328
On January 13 2012 20:42 iiGreetings wrote:
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On January 12 2012 20:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:
If that is honestly the reason they dropped him, then that's fucking bullshit. cArn is an incredibly hard working player. He decides not to attend ONE TIME and they drop him even though he's sacrificed everything to try and participate in GSL? What the fuck, eSahara.

EDIT: If you're going to be disrespectful and say shit like "Who cares, cArn has achieved nothing."

Read his blogs before you post.

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=299855
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=300320
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=301987


Well he basically was brought to korea to train and then is like nahh i dont wanna do gsl i think il get raped. Like it never hurts to try right? From what they tell us it sounds like he just obviously doesn't care or feels he actually will just get raped and not want to embarass himself. Sad though


I'm assuming you've never played in a LAN. Even smaller sized LANs are physically and mentally exhausting due to little to no breaks and awful playing conditions. If he doesn't feel he is playing well, there's no reason to put himself through a let down.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
January 14 2012 05:22 GMT
#329
On January 14 2012 14:13 Horse...falcon wrote:
Regardless of how well cArn is performing as a player eSahara management should have handled it better.

A more professional outfit would have simply stated that they're parting ways with the player and wish him well in his future endeavors. No drama just goodbye and goodluck.



That wouldn't stop people from being curious and wondering why it happened, and there's nothing to stop cArn from making his earlier statement explaining what happened. In that scenario eSahara would HAVE to make a statement, otherwise they'd look worse for not being transparent with everyone. What they did was definitely the lesser of two evils, although ideally they should have been completely frank about it from the start and agreed with cArn: "no results."
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