On January 09 2012 14:05 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: And the SC2 talent pool became that much better. I expect this to be the beginning of the end of foreign players and foreign teams. I don't expect to see companies sponsoring foreigner players that will never have a chance of breaking the top 15 of a tournament if many BW pros switch over. So sad T.T. The current SC2 scene was fun while it lasted.
A few foreign teams will still be around, they will just be filled with Korean players. What does this do for MLG and all these companies that have grown so much because of SC2. I assume they will slowly start to dwindle away and host other events.
[QUOTE]On January 09 2012 14:09 magnaflow wrote: [QUOTE]On January 09 2012 14:05 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: And the SC2 talent pool became that much better. I expect this to be the beginning of the end of foreign players and foreign teams. I don't expect to see companies sponsoring foreigner players that will never have a chance of breaking the top 15 of a tournament if many BW pros switch over. So sad T.T. The current SC2 scene was fun while it lasted.[QUOTE]
A few foreign teams will still be around, they will just be filled with Korean players. What does this do for MLG and all these companies that have grown so much because of SC2. I assume they will slowly start to dwindle away and host other gamnes as their main attraction like LoL lol.
On January 09 2012 14:07 masterbreti wrote: So no way the current top players are switching. only likelyhood is maybe former top players who aren't playing anymore since the disbandment.
Jesus Christ, never read something so obvious in my life.
of them, I would say maybe some of woongjin (flying, guemchi bisang) could fit the described profile. Guemchi went to like gsl open season 2 or something. CJ let idra practice sc2 in the teamhouse, so it's possible someone like Nbs could be playing sc2. KT has fielded all that line up this season, except reach and anyppi. Maybe trap or size on stx (others have been fielded). SKT maybe someone not fielded, like Alone. Samsung khan maybe odin, as he hasn't been fielded. Shine hasn't either but shine definitely wants to play brood war (when his team disbanded, he went out of his way to be able to get on a team when he wasn't put in team 8. Compare this to hiya or midas or some other progamers).
ACE has fielded everyone I think off top of my head (even chavi). Team 8 shouldn't have anybody coming (that is their entire team).
For some B teamers who knows, some could switch. If there are "top" brood war pros who have been practicing (and especially note the statement about exclusive sc2 practice), it's not really a "top" current pro.
Is that list official A-Teamers as per rules according to KeSPA? I would consider about a third of those guys A-Teamers. I always thought A-teamer = plays regularly/ semi-regularly in proleague televised matches. Many of those players haven't seen real action in over a year.
those are ones that are on december proleague roster. So not all are "A" teamers as we know them (obviously), but they are eligible to play in proleague.
If proleague = A teamer, and B teamer means no proleagu (definition I'm using). More importantly though every person people know as an "A" teamer on that list has played in proleague so far, so the profile described as an "A teamer" who is now practicing sc2 exclusively excludes almost this entire list.
edit--so yeah, many are not "A" teamers but those are ones the coaches are willing to put in proleague and who are on the bench. I certainly don't think any bw pro would go "nah I'm off to play sc2" and only practices sc2 in the teamhouse would be submitted to be eligible in proleague
So if all the low level A teamers start switching, does that mean that BW will just have 15 players who will constantly play against each other? That would be awkward. More likely that it would spiral to the point where top BW players would have no choice but to switch in the not too distant future (assuming that what FXOBoss is saying is true.)
On January 09 2012 14:11 AndAgain wrote: So if all the low level A teamers start switching, does that mean that BW will just have 15 players who will constantly play against each other? That would be awkward. More likely that it would spiral to the point where top BW players would have no choice but to switch in the not too distant future (assuming that what FXOBoss is saying is true.)
That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world... but also that's not the nature of sc2. Even the Unequivocally best player (read: mvp) has was knocked to code B
Hmmm, I wonder if we can speculate and extrapolate from the vague info that Boss had posted.
He says that they are A-teamers, so we are obviously not talking about B-teamers. He says that they had solid and consistent results, which in itself is vague. What would be considered "solid and consistent?" He says that "they only play sc2 now in their practice time," so does this mean that these speculated players are probably not being too active in the current Proleague season? However, if Hydra follows through with his mysterious change to his Twitter profile, then perhaps that might not be the case since he is still quite active in Proleague. However, maybe we can speculate about underperforming players, though that is a tricky and probably flawed analysis.
Of course, we could speculate about the players floating around after the 3 teams disbanded, but I think quite a few of those players have decided to retire rather than switch over. HiyA, Midas, Lomo, and others come to mind. However, I don't think I've seen a full list of players from these teams who have not decided to retire.
Eh, this is obviously exciting news for SC2 fans, but not so much for BW fans if it interferes too much with BW in a negative way. There is still a huge BW following in Korea, and to actively disrupt that scene would open up a huge can of worms if mishandled.
HyuN (BW) / HyuN (SC2) was pretty awful in BW and he qualified for Code A after playing SC2 for only a few months.
I didn't really believe BW players would be able to reach the top level so fast, although I had no doubts they would be able to if they put in a ton of practice like ForGG did. After's HyuN's Code A qualification I now believe I was wrong.
Wait until all these top level A team BW pros realize in starcraft 2 they can and will have plenty of build order losses to players that never should be beating them. I still do not think any of them will dominate someone like mvp or even be significantly better. I dont see what they can do so much better then mvp or leenock to consistently win.
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