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Anyone saying boxer >flash needs to actually use their brain.
Boxer revolutionized bw, but when he was in his prime the level of macro/etc used was laughable compared to the level of the day.
No, flash has not revoltionized the game more than boxer, but he is miles better than boxer in terms of mechanical skill.
It's like comparing a roman army to today's army. In a battle today's army would slaughter the Romans, but that does not mean the roman army was not the best army of its TIME.
There is no question flash owes a lot of his success to boxers revolutions, (and that is why boxer is considered a great) but that does not mean flash is not far far far superior mechanical player.
Its like thinking hopetorture is as good as mvp is today
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I can't wait for some top bw pros to switch, will make the scene that much more exciting..
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On January 21 2012 01:09 iGswOrd wrote:
Saying top pro's like Bisu,Flash and JD wont change much close to anything if they moved to sc2 is really naive. I mean people who had little to none impact in the broodwar scene are the current builders of the sc2 scene. They are the people who dictate the game. They dominate everyone. They are the revolutionists. /Tester,FD | later Nestea,MC,MVP/
I dont really see the impact Boxer,NaDa and JulyZerg have in the game in terms of skill level. Thats because there is really none. They cant move the game forward anymore. Of course they will always be interesting and will always produce entartaining stuff but their done as long as competitiveness goes. And that really is the key to everything - the strongest players make the game what it is.
People like Boxer,NaDa and JulyZerg were top players in the broodwar scene but that was years ago. The three of them were among the first who swapped to sc2 because they knew they couldnt compete even with the worst pros in the broodwar scene anymore. Yet you start comparing them to the current top bw pros etc...its just wrong.
If they started to play SC2 full time today, I don't think they would come up with something new or revolutionary at all. And if people expect that from Flash, Bisu and Jaedong they would be really dissapointed I believe. More like they would abuse the hell out of everything possible there is in SC2 already and just do the same things the best players are doing today, but just better. If they switch and HotS and LotV change up the gameplay alot then we could obviously see new things that work because of their raw RTS skills.
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On January 21 2012 04:24 1Eris1 wrote:
Anyone saying boxer >flash needs to actually use their brain.
Boxer revolutionized bw, but when he was in his prime the level of macro/etc used was laughable compared to the level of the day.
No, flash has not revoltionized the game more than boxer, but he is miles better than boxer in terms of mechanical skill.
It's like comparing a roman army to today's army. In a battle today's army would slaughter the Romans, but that does not mean the roman army was not the best army of its TIME.
There is no question flash owes a lot of his success to boxers revolutions, (and that is why boxer is considered a great) but that does not mean flash is not far far far superior mechanical player.
Its like thinking hopetorture is as good as mvp is today
I agree. While Boxer had a much larger impact on the development of Terran play and eSports in general, Flash is the best Terran player that the world has ever seen.
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I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but 40 days passed and there isn't any info about this. This mean Boss made fake hype for blog or?
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On February 08 2012 03:15 Nawe wrote:
I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but 40 days passed and there isn't any info about this. This mean Boss made fake hype for blog or?
Wouldn't be the first time Boss is trolling, but you need to take into account that even if players are switching it could take a while before it is made public.
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On February 08 2012 03:15 Nawe wrote:
I'm sorry for bumping this thread, but 40 days passed and there isn't any info about this. This mean Boss made fake hype for blog or?
1. It's not been 40 days. January 9th to February 8th is not 40 days.
2. They aren't going to magically switch as soon as 40 days are up, look for a switch to happen after SPL ends in early April.
3. Even when they do switch, you might not know about it for a while.
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On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:
I'd like all brood war playes to swap to sc2 :D When enough players have swapped, the community just falls apart and recuire the rest to either quit playing or swapping aswell.
I'd like none of them to swap. Is there a reason behind SC2 community needs top BW players so badly? It is like comparing chess to checkers, where only similiarity is, both games are played on the same type of board. Facing the argument of game mechanics simplicity (as often pointed by BW fans), SC2 supporters promptly admit, that their game requires a lot of strategic thinking... and so on. I am not going to argue that, it just shows that the skillset is different. Why should one expect the top BW professionals (who are the product of years of developing skills towards mastering BW) to excel in the game that requires different type of skills? It is like in theory of evolution - most succesful skills propagate to next generations of gamers, and other evaporate (and thus the players whose gameplay is based on these less succesful skills). Top BW players will make revolution in SC2 only if for some reasons they are fit for that game better than current SC2 pro players. Possible, but not likely.
On January 10 2012 23:24 Fus wrote:There is no prestige in winning an OSL if nobody plays the game.
There is perhaps also no prestige in winning olympic gold in modern pentathlon. And there is certainly no prestige in being second-to-last in some ranking, being only able to outplay your worst enemy.
I really wish SC2 reach the level of "fully developed, well known, and finally finished game". Just to get rid of this "infancy" argument. It still will have a chance, BW will be even older then.
+ Show Spoiler +You can skip the last paragraph, it is biased.
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