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carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
January 11 2012 11:27 GMT
#541
when OGN (yes WHEN) starts broadcasting an sc2 league will it monopolize Korea once again?


To me it seems really likely sadly :/
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Fanek
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland344 Posts
January 11 2012 15:09 GMT
#542
Did you guys see this? WTF !
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/36258-OnGameNet_Announce_LoL_broadcasts
hello
mosfet
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada34 Posts
January 11 2012 16:41 GMT
#543
On January 11 2012 20:04 VoO wrote:
Don't they lose their progamer license if they switch? I for one would welcome some good Protoss A-Teamers, the lack of good players within the Code S Protoss is disturbing.


According to the rumours KESPA is planning to give its blessing to an SC2 league.
I assume they have a deal in the works with GOM and / or Blizzard.

We have no idea if they will be competing in the GSL or some other new Starleague.

I hope GOM and KESPA make peace with each other. I would be very sad if we don't get to see how these "A-team players" fare against the likes of MVP and Nestea.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 18:17:44
January 12 2012 18:17 GMT
#544
ctrl+f rekrul
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Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
January 12 2012 18:19 GMT
#545
On January 13 2012 03:17 pyrogenetix wrote:
ctrl+f rekrul
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There is one result now. You can read it again.
MrMercuG
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands2389 Posts
January 12 2012 18:20 GMT
#546
On January 12 2012 00:09 Fanek wrote:
Did you guys see this? WTF !
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/36258-OnGameNet_Announce_LoL_broadcasts


It is a very reasonable expansion by OGN, because LoL is playes WAY WAY WAY WAY more than SC2 in Korea
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
January 12 2012 18:25 GMT
#547
On January 12 2012 00:09 Fanek wrote:
Did you guys see this? WTF !
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/36258-OnGameNet_Announce_LoL_broadcasts


I think people in the SC2 community don't realize how big LoL is quite becoming to be.
The game won't do anything bad to SC2, but the number of people watching this game is like enormous.
SC2 is tiny in Korea still. :/
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 18:32:23
January 12 2012 18:30 GMT
#548
On January 13 2012 03:25 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 00:09 Fanek wrote:
Did you guys see this? WTF !
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/36258-OnGameNet_Announce_LoL_broadcasts


I think people in the SC2 community don't realize how big LoL is quite becoming to be.
The game won't do anything bad to SC2, but the number of people watching this game is like enormous.
SC2 is tiny in Korea still. :/


given its player base, not that impressive really. Their tourney beside the first one ranges from 100k-150k, and with a 15 million active player base, that's less than 1%

If they can get into China, then that may be a different story to tell
hjkim1304
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)105 Posts
January 12 2012 18:32 GMT
#549
i personally dnt think there is that much more incentive to broadcast sc2 for OGN, the work and negotiation that goes into it wld be enormous because GOM wldnt be too happy to give up their exculsive rights and BW looks like its starting up again in Korea too and there is LOL league coming up so OGN rly wldn't want to open another SC2 league and go through all the trouble. so I strongly disagree with Josh here.
tehn00bie
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom34 Posts
January 12 2012 18:47 GMT
#550
Think they should create a new team called "Team Gordon" and just have Flash as the sole member. ^_^;
You can train a n00b, but they'd just be a trained n00b
Tomken
Profile Joined January 2010
Norway1144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 18:48:14
January 12 2012 18:48 GMT
#551
On January 11 2012 19:36 ReaperX wrote:
Please not kespa...


Only way it can success in Korea.
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
January 12 2012 18:52 GMT
#552
What's happening with SC2 in Korea that has any of you thinking this is happening? No sudden growth in playerbase or interest evident so why the fuck would they drop the game with a following and completely switch to a new one and risk it not picking up. What would the logic be here. Not to mention putting tons of gamers careers in the line to fail if it doesn't work, i'm sure they would be happy with that.

As well as A/S class players being happy to drop years of dedication to a game on a whim. Think about their mindset as people who have been competing for so long in BW not as 'omg i want x to switch'.. nodody would want to be forced to switch. When Flash talked about possibly switching in many years times it was being talked about as THEIR choice (him and Jaedong). If and when they want to.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
January 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#553
On January 13 2012 03:52 infinity2k9 wrote:
What's happening with SC2 in Korea that has any of you thinking this is happening? No sudden growth in playerbase or interest evident so why the fuck would they drop the game with a following and completely switch to a new one and risk it not picking up. What would the logic be here. Not to mention putting tons of gamers careers in the line to fail if it doesn't work, i'm sure they would be happy with that.

As well as A/S class players being happy to drop years of dedication to a game on a whim. Think about their mindset as people who have been competing for so long in BW not as 'omg i want x to switch'.. nodody would want to be forced to switch. When Flash talked about possibly switching in many years times it was being talked about as THEIR choice (him and Jaedong). If and when they want to.


There does seem to be a growing notion that the foreign scene is "easy money" in SC2 for Koreans. Not Flash or Jaedong, they are paid consistently and are at a skill/popularity level that would make a switch....weird? But there are plenty of MC's and MVP's or even better that are not paid well, are not known, and do not have the same confidence in the future that Flash did when he started. They could be talking about "known" players that you see pop up relatively commonly in the line-up, but are not exploding into the scene. These players may be looking to the foreign scene for success.

I take this with a grain of salt, but not all BW players are getting the same ROI as the Dongs and Flashes. Just wait and see, although either way I think they will not explode onto the scene, months of practice + probably a few tries before they get what they are after. Not Auto-domination.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
January 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#554
In my opinion, I dont think teams from BW except samsung are gonna follow suit to sc2. I have no knowledge about this coz I dont religiously follow sc2 but if it is true that sc2 isnt doing relatively well in Korea, why would they want to sponsor a team for that game. Sc2 is more popular outside korea so why would companies like KT, SKT, Woongjin, CJ, etc. ,who are based for the most part in Korea only, want to sponsor an sc2 team when they wont gain anything, specially advertising, from it. The possibility of them sponsoring a LoL (I heard LoL is getting big in Korea) team is bigger than them sponsoring an SC2 team, imo. Except for samsung, obviously because they are a global brand.
Woo Jung Ho
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
January 20 2012 14:26 GMT
#555
On January 13 2012 03:30 iky43210 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 03:25 Noocta wrote:
On January 12 2012 00:09 Fanek wrote:
Did you guys see this? WTF !
http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/36258-OnGameNet_Announce_LoL_broadcasts


I think people in the SC2 community don't realize how big LoL is quite becoming to be.
The game won't do anything bad to SC2, but the number of people watching this game is like enormous.
SC2 is tiny in Korea still. :/


given its player base, not that impressive really. Their tourney beside the first one ranges from 100k-150k, and with a 15 million active player base, that's less than 1%

If they can get into China, then that may be a different story to tell

I'm in China right now and I can tell you that LoL is equal to DotA in general popularity in most provinces, and completely dominating it in other provinces. Now consider that China is the absolute mecca of DotA.

I haven't seen SC2 played in a single net cafe so far. ~30% play WoW, ~15% play LoL, ~10% play DotA, and the rest play random online games, WC3 or watch videos.

Anyway, I hope the best players don't swap over to SC2, or at least that they don't switch over until SC2 becomes as entertaining as BW to watch.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
January 20 2012 14:29 GMT
#556
Since this thread was bumped, I might as well post this here:



The rumored BW players were going to be going to TSL... recent incidents could put a bit of a dent to this, but I hope not.
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
January 20 2012 14:35 GMT
#557
On January 20 2012 23:17 iLoveKT wrote:
In my opinion, I dont think teams from BW except samsung are gonna follow suit to sc2. I have no knowledge about this coz I dont religiously follow sc2 but if it is true that sc2 isnt doing relatively well in Korea, why would they want to sponsor a team for that game. Sc2 is more popular outside korea so why would companies like KT, SKT, Woongjin, CJ, etc. ,who are based for the most part in Korea only, want to sponsor an sc2 team when they wont gain anything, specially advertising, from it. The possibility of them sponsoring a LoL (I heard LoL is getting big in Korea) team is bigger than them sponsoring an SC2 team, imo. Except for samsung, obviously because they are a global brand.


But that's a reasonable short term view of things. As SC2 grows, the skill level, player base, fandom and everything else will grow with it until eventually there is a whole new generation who grew up with SC2. SC2 is still in its infancy, it's first (of two) expansions is not too far away, and it is the RTS of the future for the time being. In the short term (based on the hints that we are getting), there is going to be an influx of BW players moving over, and a new Korean SC2 league in place. This is going to change the whole landscape for Korean SC2, and will mean that the Korean companies you quoted will have every reason to sponsor an SC2 team. I've no idea what the time frame would be on this, as I'm no insider, but it's going to happen.

And the more top level players the SC2 scene, the better the quality of games we are going to see. We're already seeing more and more amazing games, and the overall level of those at the top in SC2 is continuing to grow and it's a great thing.

I for one am very excited about this and can't wait for the full details to come out.
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 20 2012 14:49 GMT
#558
On January 20 2012 23:35 Pure-SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 23:17 iLoveKT wrote:
In my opinion, I dont think teams from BW except samsung are gonna follow suit to sc2. I have no knowledge about this coz I dont religiously follow sc2 but if it is true that sc2 isnt doing relatively well in Korea, why would they want to sponsor a team for that game. Sc2 is more popular outside korea so why would companies like KT, SKT, Woongjin, CJ, etc. ,who are based for the most part in Korea only, want to sponsor an sc2 team when they wont gain anything, specially advertising, from it. The possibility of them sponsoring a LoL (I heard LoL is getting big in Korea) team is bigger than them sponsoring an SC2 team, imo. Except for samsung, obviously because they are a global brand.


But that's a reasonable short term view of things. As SC2 grows, the skill level, player base, fandom and everything else will grow with it until eventually there is a whole new generation who grew up with SC2. SC2 is still in its infancy, it's first (of two) expansions is not too far away, and it is the RTS of the future for the time being. In the short term (based on the hints that we are getting), there is going to be an influx of BW players moving over, and a new Korean SC2 league in place. This is going to change the whole landscape for Korean SC2, and will mean that the Korean companies you quoted will have every reason to sponsor an SC2 team. I've no idea what the time frame would be on this, as I'm no insider, but it's going to happen.

And the more top level players the SC2 scene, the better the quality of games we are going to see. We're already seeing more and more amazing games, and the overall level of those at the top in SC2 is continuing to grow and it's a great thing.

I for one am very excited about this and can't wait for the full details to come out.


Sc2 receiving great strategist like Boxer , Mechanical genius Nada , God Of War July from the bw pool of talents could not make sc2 interesting as brood war did . How can my bonjwa Flash , Jaedong,Stork and Bisu is going to do anything more to the game when the game has it's own limitation to what the unit's can do ? . I do not doubt it may be the future game of rts , but that doesn't mean it will be , looking at how thing's are going maybe more casual oriented games like Dota 2 and Lol will be the more suitable candidate to be a popular RTS in the future.
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
January 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#559
On January 20 2012 23:49 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 23:35 Pure-SC2 wrote:
On January 20 2012 23:17 iLoveKT wrote:
In my opinion, I dont think teams from BW except samsung are gonna follow suit to sc2. I have no knowledge about this coz I dont religiously follow sc2 but if it is true that sc2 isnt doing relatively well in Korea, why would they want to sponsor a team for that game. Sc2 is more popular outside korea so why would companies like KT, SKT, Woongjin, CJ, etc. ,who are based for the most part in Korea only, want to sponsor an sc2 team when they wont gain anything, specially advertising, from it. The possibility of them sponsoring a LoL (I heard LoL is getting big in Korea) team is bigger than them sponsoring an SC2 team, imo. Except for samsung, obviously because they are a global brand.


But that's a reasonable short term view of things. As SC2 grows, the skill level, player base, fandom and everything else will grow with it until eventually there is a whole new generation who grew up with SC2. SC2 is still in its infancy, it's first (of two) expansions is not too far away, and it is the RTS of the future for the time being. In the short term (based on the hints that we are getting), there is going to be an influx of BW players moving over, and a new Korean SC2 league in place. This is going to change the whole landscape for Korean SC2, and will mean that the Korean companies you quoted will have every reason to sponsor an SC2 team. I've no idea what the time frame would be on this, as I'm no insider, but it's going to happen.

And the more top level players the SC2 scene, the better the quality of games we are going to see. We're already seeing more and more amazing games, and the overall level of those at the top in SC2 is continuing to grow and it's a great thing.

I for one am very excited about this and can't wait for the full details to come out.


Sc2 receiving great strategist like Boxer , Mechanical genius Nada , God Of War July from the bw pool of talents could not make sc2 interesting as brood war did . How can my bonjwa Flash , Jaedong,Stork and Bisu is going to do anything more to the game when the game has it's own limitation to what the unit's can do ? . I do not doubt it may be the future game of rts , but that doesn't mean it will be , looking at how thing's are going maybe more casual oriented games like Dota 2 and Lol will be the more suitable candidate to be a popular RTS in the future.



Are you really comparing Boxer, Nada, and July to Bisu, JD, Flash???? That's soooo wrong. Boxer/Nada/July aren't anywhere near the skill level or Bisu/JD/Flash. The things you mentioned about them were all outstanding, like, a really, really, really long time ago (slight exception with Nada).
aderum
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden1459 Posts
January 20 2012 14:55 GMT
#560
Hmm maybe I have to start playing LoL again now so that i understand WTF is going on.. ^^ :D
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