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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
January 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#21
Nice! This is "old" news since it's pretty much expected but great to have a very reputable source confirm it!
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 05:18:07
January 09 2012 04:56 GMT
#22
On January 09 2012 13:40 Tazerenix wrote:
How many A teamers have been relatively inactive in Pro Leagues and High Level BW tournaments recently?

none.

for a complete list of "a-teamers" right now, refer to this list:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2011 19:23 Ryo wrote:
ACE

Director: Song Dong Kyun
Coach: Kim Nam Ki
Playing coach: TheRock
Captain: ggaemo
Players:
(P)TheRock
(P)M18M
(P)Kal
(T)firebathero
(T)Iris
(T)PianO
(T)Canata
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)Peace
(Z)Orion
(Z)Chavi
(Z)great



Samsung KHAN

Director: January
Coach: Choi Woo Beom
Coach: Oh Sang Taek
Playing coach: Odin
Captain: Stork
Players:
(P)Stork
(P)Grape
(P)Brave
(P)JangBi
(T)Reality
(T)TurN
(T)Sharp
(Z)Juni
(Z)ByuL
(Z)RorO
(Z)oDin
(Z)Shine
Added: Byul



Woongjin Stars

Director: Lee Jae Kyun
Coach: Son Seung Wan
Coach: Lee Hyo Min
Coach: Na Jae Woong
Captain: Light
Players:
(P)GuemChi
(P)Flying
(P)free
(P)BisAnG
(P)sHy
(T)Rudy
(T)Light
(T)hOn_sin
(Z)ZerO
(Z)Woon
(Z)nock
(Z)SoulKey



CJ Entus

Director: Kim Dong Woo
Coach: Lee Jae Hoon
Playing coach: nbs
Captain: Leta
Players:
(P)Horang2
(P)Snow
(P)Movie
(P)Nbs
(T)Leta
(T)Rush
(T)BByong
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)Where
(Z)Hydra
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)herO[jOin]



KT Rolster

Director: Lee Ji Hoon
Coach: Kang Do Gyeong
Coach: Kim Sang Hoon
Coach: Kim Yoon Hwan
Captain: Reach
(P)Anyppi
(P)Stats
(P)Reach
(P)Wooki
(P)Violet
(T)Flash
(T)Mind
(T)BarrackS
(Z)HoeJJa
(Z)Action
(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Perfective
Added: Violet
Removed: Suny



SK Telecom T1

Director: Park Yong Woon
Coach: Kwon Oh Hyuk
Coach: Cha Ji Hoon
Captain: s2
(P)Bisu
(P)BeSt
(P)Paralyze
(P)By.Sun
(T)Fantasy
(T)JyJ
(T)Ssak
(Z)Hyuk
(Z)SoO
(Z)Alone
(Z)Sacsri
(Z)s2



STX SouL

Director: Kim Eun Dong
Coach: Park Jae Seok
Coach: Park Jong Su
Probationary coach: Choi Won Seok
Captain: Shuttle
Players:
(P)Dear
(P)Shuttle
(P)Trap
(P)mini
(T)Classic
(T)Size
(T)Last
(T)Bogus
(Z)Calm
(Z)Modesty
(Z)hyvaa
(Z)HerO



(Dream) Team 8

Director: Joo Hoon
Coach: Han Sang Yong
Captain: Jaehoon
Players:
(P)Tyson
(P)Sang
(P)Jaehoon
(T)Sea
(T)BaBy
(T)Speed
(Z)Jaedong
(Z)Killer
(Z)Ryul2


Source:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=53535


of them, I would say maybe some of woongjin (flying, guemchi bisang) could fit the described profile. Guemchi went to like gsl open season 2 or something. CJ let idra practice sc2 in the teamhouse, so it's possible someone like Nbs could be playing sc2. KT has fielded all that line up this season, except reach and anyppi. Maybe trap or size on stx (others have been fielded). SKT maybe someone not fielded, like Alone. Samsung khan maybe odin, as he hasn't been fielded. Shine hasn't either but shine definitely wants to play brood war (when his team disbanded, he went out of his way to be able to get on a team when he wasn't put in team 8. Compare this to hiya or midas or some other progamers).

ACE has fielded everyone I think off top of my head except orion (even chavi), but who knows what any ACE member wants to do after they finish their military service. Team 8 shouldn't have anybody coming (that is their entire team).

For some B teamers who knows, some could switch. If there are "top" brood war pros who have been practicing sc2 (and especially note the statement about exclusive sc2 practice), it's not really a "top" current pro.

EDIT: didn't even realize like most of the names I listed as "possible" are the "playing coaches". But seeing as MBCgame's former coach switched (Coach Lee) to coach TSL, maybe some of the player coaches could switch.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 09 2012 04:57 GMT
#23
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
January 09 2012 04:58 GMT
#24
On January 09 2012 13:50 awwnuts07 wrote:
Unless it's the BW top dogs, I can't really say I'm super interested.


You should be, because they'll be the new SC2 top dogs.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
January 09 2012 05:00 GMT
#25
On January 09 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.

If the level of play becomes higher why would anyone care?

I'd rather watch flash/JD than mvp/nestea any day.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
lu_natik
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia89 Posts
January 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#26
Another post from FXOBoSs's blog
FXOBoSs's Insights
To those reading my blog

I am not CNN. I am not CNBC… This is my blog.

I have no obligation to anyone to reveal sources (especially the ones I care about) of information I post on my blog.

I have posted information I have been given, and I have a direct source. Thats all you need to know.

I would not fabricate such a claim without significant evidence. But this is my blog, not CNN. The ‘humour’ and ‘unprofessionalism’ of my blog is evidence of this.

When the players I know that are switching, switch, I will blog accordingly to state that these were the people I am talking about.

Good luck!
ChriS-X
Profile Joined June 2011
Malaysia1374 Posts
January 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#27
haha boss being a total boss as usual
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#28
On January 09 2012 14:00 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.

If the level of play becomes higher why would anyone care?

I'd rather watch flash/JD than mvp/nestea any day.


I guess. But why was the foreign BW interest so low?
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
January 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#29
On January 09 2012 13:48 Fionn wrote:
Time for Perfectman to become forever GSL champion.

[image loading]

YEAHHHH
N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 05:04:55
January 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#30
On January 09 2012 14:02 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 14:00 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 09 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.

If the level of play becomes higher why would anyone care?

I'd rather watch flash/JD than mvp/nestea any day.


I guess. But why was the foreign BW interest so low?


e-sports was different in 2002? No game had such a large following as sc2 or LoL or dota does now.
iu, seungah, yura, taeyeon, hyosung, lizzy, suji, sojin, jia, ji eun, eunji, soya, younha, jiyeon, fiestar, sinb, jung myung hoon godtier. BW FOREVERR
FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
January 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#31
On January 09 2012 14:02 magnaflow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 14:00 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 09 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.

If the level of play becomes higher why would anyone care?

I'd rather watch flash/JD than mvp/nestea any day.


I guess. But why was the foreign BW interest so low?


It wasn't initially.
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 09 2012 05:05 GMT
#32
And the SC2 talent pool became that much better. I expect this to be the beginning of the end of foreign players and foreign teams. I don't expect to see companies sponsoring foreigner players that will never have a chance of breaking the top 15 of a tournament if many BW pros switch over. So sad T.T. The current SC2 scene was fun while it lasted.
"let your freak flag fly"
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
January 09 2012 05:05 GMT
#33
lol PerfectMan. Awwww yea.

I'd cry with happiness if BackHo started playing SC2. Don't think he will, though... but I'd fuckin' cry. Pure tears of joy. Reach too.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 05:08:58
January 09 2012 05:06 GMT
#34
A wittle bwirdy told me this morning that a certain number of brood war persons will be playing sc2 professionally in approximately 40 days time.


Does anyone know what tournament this will line up with?
2012 Global StarCraft II League Season 2? Or OGN SC2 tournament?
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masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
January 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#35
Will not be anyone current unless they have been fired from their teams

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/2011-2012_Proleague_Season_1/Round_2

Look at the last date from spl week 3, That would mean the last date in in Feburary, just around a month from now.

That could be an possbility that pl would switch just after that. But that would throw off the entire spl right now. Because there still is round 4. round 4 would still be a month and a half. So no way the current top players are switching. only likelyhood is maybe former top players who aren't playing anymore since the disbandment. Which tbh none of them were top level players.
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
January 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#36
On January 09 2012 14:04 FXOpen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 14:02 magnaflow wrote:
On January 09 2012 14:00 Scarecrow wrote:
On January 09 2012 13:57 magnaflow wrote:
Obviously this would be great for Korea, but how would it affect the foreign scene. I assume alot of foriegn viewrs (like myself) cheer for foreigners to win (I know alot of people love the Koreans)

Would the viewership interest still be there for most people if SC2 becomes totally dominated by Koreans even more so then it is now.

If the level of play becomes higher why would anyone care?

I'd rather watch flash/JD than mvp/nestea any day.


I guess. But why was the foreign BW interest so low?


It wasn't initially.



Exactly
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
January 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#37
Im guessing ongamenet purchased rights to broadcast sc2 from gom, so sc2 in msl! my guess
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
January 09 2012 05:08 GMT
#38
Sweet
Firebathero would be awesome, might rival MC in ceremonies XD
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
January 09 2012 05:08 GMT
#39
On January 09 2012 13:56 N.geNuity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2012 13:40 Tazerenix wrote:
How many A teamers have been relatively inactive in Pro Leagues and High Level BW tournaments recently?

none.

for a complete list of "a-teamers" right now, refer to this list:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 16 2011 19:23 Ryo wrote:
ACE

Director: Song Dong Kyun
Coach: Kim Nam Ki
Playing coach: TheRock
Captain: ggaemo
Players:
(P)TheRock
(P)M18M
(P)Kal
(T)firebathero
(T)Iris
(T)PianO
(T)Canata
(Z)ggaemo
(Z)Peace
(Z)Orion
(Z)Chavi
(Z)great



Samsung KHAN

Director: January
Coach: Choi Woo Beom
Coach: Oh Sang Taek
Playing coach: Odin
Captain: Stork
Players:
(P)Stork
(P)Grape
(P)Brave
(P)JangBi
(T)Reality
(T)TurN
(T)Sharp
(Z)Juni
(Z)ByuL
(Z)RorO
(Z)oDin
(Z)Shine
Added: Byul



Woongjin Stars

Director: Lee Jae Kyun
Coach: Son Seung Wan
Coach: Lee Hyo Min
Coach: Na Jae Woong
Captain: Light
Players:
(P)GuemChi
(P)Flying
(P)free
(P)BisAnG
(P)sHy
(T)Rudy
(T)Light
(T)hOn_sin
(Z)ZerO
(Z)Woon
(Z)nock
(Z)SoulKey



CJ Entus

Director: Kim Dong Woo
Coach: Lee Jae Hoon
Playing coach: nbs
Captain: Leta
Players:
(P)Horang2
(P)Snow
(P)Movie
(P)Nbs
(T)Leta
(T)Rush
(T)BByong
(T)sKyHigh
(Z)Where
(Z)Hydra
(Z)EffOrt
(Z)herO[jOin]



KT Rolster

Director: Lee Ji Hoon
Coach: Kang Do Gyeong
Coach: Kim Sang Hoon
Coach: Kim Yoon Hwan
Captain: Reach
(P)Anyppi
(P)Stats
(P)Reach
(P)Wooki
(P)Violet
(T)Flash
(T)Mind
(T)BarrackS
(Z)HoeJJa
(Z)Action
(Z)Crazy-Hydra
(Z)Perfective
Added: Violet
Removed: Suny



SK Telecom T1

Director: Park Yong Woon
Coach: Kwon Oh Hyuk
Coach: Cha Ji Hoon
Captain: s2
(P)Bisu
(P)BeSt
(P)Paralyze
(P)By.Sun
(T)Fantasy
(T)JyJ
(T)Ssak
(Z)Hyuk
(Z)SoO
(Z)Alone
(Z)Sacsri
(Z)s2



STX SouL

Director: Kim Eun Dong
Coach: Park Jae Seok
Coach: Park Jong Su
Probationary coach: Choi Won Seok
Captain: Shuttle
Players:
(P)Dear
(P)Shuttle
(P)Trap
(P)mini
(T)Classic
(T)Size
(T)Last
(T)Bogus
(Z)Calm
(Z)Modesty
(Z)hyvaa
(Z)HerO



(Dream) Team 8

Director: Joo Hoon
Coach: Han Sang Yong
Captain: Jaehoon
Players:
(P)Tyson
(P)Sang
(P)Jaehoon
(T)Sea
(T)BaBy
(T)Speed
(Z)Jaedong
(Z)Killer
(Z)Ryul2


Source:
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=53535


of them, I would say maybe some of woongjin (flying, guemchi bisang) could fit the described profile. Guemchi went to like gsl open season 2 or something. CJ let idra practice sc2 in the teamhouse, so it's possible someone like Nbs could be playing sc2. KT has fielded all that line up this season, except reach and anyppi. Maybe trap or size on stx (others have been fielded). SKT maybe someone not fielded, like Alone. Samsung khan maybe odin, as he hasn't been fielded. Shine hasn't either but shine definitely wants to play brood war (when his team disbanded, he went out of his way to be able to get on a team when he wasn't put in team 8. Compare this to hiya or midas or some other progamers).

ACE has fielded everyone I think off top of my head (even chavi). Team 8 shouldn't have anybody coming (that is their entire team).

For some B teamers who knows, some could switch. If there are "top" brood war pros who have been practicing (and especially note the statement about exclusive sc2 practice), it's not really a "top" current pro.


Is that list official A-Teamers as per rules according to KeSPA? I would consider about a third of those guys A-Teamers. I always thought A-teamer = plays regularly/ semi-regularly in proleague televised matches. Many of those players haven't seen real action in over a year.
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Phyrigian
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand1332 Posts
January 09 2012 05:08 GMT
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