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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
December 24 2011 01:33 GMT
#101
StarCraft is not the place for the hero unit and I'm glad that the Mothership will be gone, although.. I wouldn't have an idea of how to deal with broodlords after the expansion...
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
Bobbias
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1373 Posts
December 24 2011 01:36 GMT
#102
Guys, hero units are solely designed to be used by bronze level players. Blizzard knows full well they are not viable in high level gameplay, and have commented on it before. They make hero units just so the scrubs can pick up the game and say "holy shit, look at that big thing, I'm going to make that!"
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 24 2011 01:41 GMT
#103
Zerg one better be kick-ass...
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
December 24 2011 01:42 GMT
#104
hero thors hanging out of medivacs will be awesome!
Jaedong :3
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 01:44:01
December 24 2011 01:43 GMT
#105
On December 24 2011 08:42 NoobSkills wrote:
I claimed it was a "hero" day one. People said this isn't warcraft -_-

Either way if you think THIS is the reason they fail as a company now you're mistaken. It is THIS and everything else they do that fucking blows. They've sold out like many other companies. Too bad. Buy 3 games then finally receive the whole SC2 game. Balance for the moronic bronze leaguers who complain all day. Create the worst maps put those into the ladder which causes map pools for the tournaments to be shit as well except maybe the GSL. Now, they're making D3 and I bet once we reach the end game that will be shit as well.


Yes, fail as a company. That's why Blizzard is one of the most successful and well-known video game developers of all time. You're just bitter about game features and changes you don't necessarily agree with.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
December 24 2011 01:43 GMT
#106
Well as a Terran, I'm looking forward to play the new Thor with SCV repair, should be fun.
Szubie
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom294 Posts
December 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#107
Thor is probably only a hero unit because Blizzard decided to replace the Thor with the warhound. But if they just removed the Thor completely, people who bought the collector's edition would not have their unique model. So Thor becomes a hero unit, and it's probably gonna be useless in competetive play.
IMMvp, Maru
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
December 24 2011 01:51 GMT
#108
On December 24 2011 10:43 canikizu wrote:
Well as a Terran, I'm looking forward to play the new Thor with SCV repair, should be fun.


Oh you... :D
Swiv
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany3674 Posts
December 24 2011 01:54 GMT
#109
Gotta love biased polls. gz dude.
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Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
December 24 2011 01:58 GMT
#110
Hey man, I think it worked pretty well in Age of Mythology: Titans. I like the way they did it. fun game aspect, but if they do do that, they should make it a more fun, better unit, that is completely unnecessary, and to raise the supply level. Imagine a 15 supply Massive hero unit, mixed in a 300/300 army, vs another army of the same caliber.

And another thing, the hero unit shoudn't be a spell casting support uber like the mothership, but it should be a tank with an aura.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
December 24 2011 02:00 GMT
#111
On December 24 2011 10:51 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 10:43 canikizu wrote:
Well as a Terran, I'm looking forward to play the new Thor with SCV repair, should be fun.


Oh you... :D


jesus christ, i imagine that's gonna be a real brutal all-in when the game comes out haha.
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
david0925
Profile Joined September 2010
212 Posts
December 24 2011 02:18 GMT
#112
While I agree that Starcraft doesn't need a hero unit, this poll probably has one of the most biased options I have seen in a really long time
Hossinaut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States453 Posts
December 24 2011 02:23 GMT
#113
hero units + SC2 = why?
its against the whole point of the game, having hero units.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
December 24 2011 02:30 GMT
#114
What exactly are you trying to say?
Mothership is imba? Lol wtf?! Try to win against broodlord+infester without it..
It can be build only one time, I want my broodlords or ultras only one at a time as well? Hmm.. okay.
I don't really understand why you want a one at the time unit as well, if you want it ( I have trouble, understanding your point). If the game is balanced, as it is or as it hopefully will be, when Terran gets the hero Thor, I'm fine with it.
Your rant (as I understand it) just sounds like "every race should be exactly the same!"
KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
December 24 2011 02:35 GMT
#115
On December 24 2011 11:30 KingPaddy wrote:
What exactly are you trying to say?
Mothership is imba? Lol wtf?! Try to win against broodlord+infester without it..
It can be build only one time, I want my broodlords or ultras only one at a time as well? Hmm.. okay.
I don't really understand why you want a one at the time unit as well, if you want it ( I have trouble, understanding your point). If the game is balanced, as it is or as it hopefully will be, when Terran gets the hero Thor, I'm fine with it.
Your rant (as I understand it) just sounds like "every race should be exactly the same!"


its more like his rant, that he doesnt want any super units, or every race to have 1 super unit, as he seems its silly that the mothership will be removed, then terran gets a superunit. and the issue is that he also makes a point that the mothership's vortex is awfully strong.

personally i would prefer no race to have a superunit, and if its a must that we have 1, why not all 3 races have theirs... I mean seriosly its not like the zerg doesnt already have a superunit, The leviathan, and terran is getting the SP thor with its SP abilities from WoL... Protoss already have the mothership, so why not have a party?
`dunedain
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
653 Posts
December 24 2011 02:41 GMT
#116
On December 24 2011 08:42 NoobSkills wrote:
I claimed it was a "hero" day one. People said this isn't warcraft -_-

Either way if you think THIS is the reason they fail as a company now you're mistaken. It is THIS and everything else they do that fucking blows. They've sold out like many other companies. Too bad. Buy 3 games then finally receive the whole SC2 game. Balance for the moronic bronze leaguers who complain all day. Create the worst maps put those into the ladder which causes map pools for the tournaments to be shit as well except maybe the GSL. Now, they're making D3 and I bet once we reach the end game that will be shit as well.


And yet here you are, still playing their games.
"In order to be created, a work of art must first make use of the dark forces of the soul." ~Albert Camus
BeeNu
Profile Joined June 2011
615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:49:44
December 24 2011 02:44 GMT
#117
The very concept of a hero unit in SC pisses me off and makes me want to pee in Dustin Bowder's eyes.





On December 24 2011 11:30 KingPaddy wrote:
What exactly are you trying to say?
Mothership is imba? Lol wtf?! Try to win against broodlord+infester without it..
It can be build only one time, I want my broodlords or ultras only one at a time as well? Hmm.. okay.
I don't really understand why you want a one at the time unit as well, if you want it ( I have trouble, understanding your point). If the game is balanced, as it is or as it hopefully will be, when Terran gets the hero Thor, I'm fine with it.
Your rant (as I understand it) just sounds like "every race should be exactly the same!"


First of all Mothership *is* imba, sure Protoss has a difficult time dealing with Infestor/Broodlord combo but that's a balance issue that can't be resolved with simply introducing a unit like the Mothership which simply makes the battles incredibly one-sided. Second of all if Zerg had a hero unit it wouldn't be the Ultra or BL, it would be an entirely different unit, Protoss already has two Massive units and then the Mothership on top of it all just for kicks and giggles. No I don't think every race should be the same and the races aren't even close to being the same with or without hero units, I simply think the introduction of hero units is stupid and entirely uncharacteristic of Starcraft and it is entirely unwanted by the community at large.

User was warned for this post
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 24 2011 02:46 GMT
#118
On December 24 2011 11:35 KiF1rE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 11:30 KingPaddy wrote:
What exactly are you trying to say?
Mothership is imba? Lol wtf?! Try to win against broodlord+infester without it..
It can be build only one time, I want my broodlords or ultras only one at a time as well? Hmm.. okay.
I don't really understand why you want a one at the time unit as well, if you want it ( I have trouble, understanding your point). If the game is balanced, as it is or as it hopefully will be, when Terran gets the hero Thor, I'm fine with it.
Your rant (as I understand it) just sounds like "every race should be exactly the same!"


its more like his rant, that he doesnt want any super units, or every race to have 1 super unit, as he seems its silly that the mothership will be removed, then terran gets a superunit. and the issue is that he also makes a point that the mothership's vortex is awfully strong.

personally i would prefer no race to have a superunit, and if its a must that we have 1, why not all 3 races have theirs... I mean seriosly its not like the zerg doesnt already have a superunit, The leviathan, and terran is getting the SP thor with its SP abilities from WoL... Protoss already have the mothership, so why not have a party?


thank god someone actually understands me
JD, need I say more? :D
XenoX101
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-24 02:49:01
December 24 2011 02:47 GMT
#119
I love how this guy wasn't even warned, mods are probably enjoying Christmas or on vacation. Most obviously the OP's grammar is awful, but that aside, not only did he provide absolutely no argument whatsoever as to why hero units are intrinsically bad, but he spent the entire top half his post balance whining about vortex. It makes me really sad that a post like this flew past the radar, the only reason I can think of is that it looks sensible by having lots of text and a few pictures, it's only when you read the drivel that you realise there's absolutely nothing of substance there.
weikor
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria580 Posts
December 24 2011 02:48 GMT
#120
One could argue that the mothership is fine, and one of the only real non air ways of dealing with broodlords.

I could say broodlords, even without upgrades spawn broodlings, that not only soak insane amounts of damage, also dealing a lot.
But
wait
theres
more
The broodlord is also the only air unit profiting from upgrades of your core army. Upgrading zerglings also makes your broodlords stronger.
Broodlings / lords also dont require any micro, or a lot of skill to use. 4 broodlords make a 150 supply army twice as good.

Anyway, i still agree with you that there should be no hero units in the game or one for each race. I also think the mothership would have become well balanced in HOTS since the viper gets the pull thing.

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