EPTGOMTV Announcement regarding NaNiWa - Page 48
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Gobe
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Vorenius
Denmark1979 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:02 JiPrime wrote: If Blizzard Cup is on the same tier as AOL and TAI then why isn't GomTV running GSL Dec. along with the Blizzard Cup, then? Why didn't they run February, April, June or September? Because there isn't a Code S every month. Come on man. Code S is a continueous league, that seeds previous contestants into the next event. Getting a seed in Code S means you have at least two seasons in GSL and most likely more. Even if Naniwa would have won this supposedly "GSL December" you've just made up he woudl still be back in Code B next season. | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:04 Kieofire wrote: Because most of the people are just here for the drama, it is so sad. I hate people coming into a discussion with no clues about it. | ||
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the bruvler
16 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:06 SayTT wrote: I do not get how people can't read behind the lines? GOM is bending facts to fit their needs, just to be able to defend their actions. How do you guys not get upset when they unviel information that no one knew about? That the premesis for naniwas code s spot was "hidden", and just now fit in the glove of the punishment for an action that didnt break any written rule... this is sad and not professional at all from GOM side. It's just about rewriting facts to fit their agenda... Yeah I loved GOM, but this shit is a bit blatant. How they manage to look less professional than Naniwa is beyond me... | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:07 grobo wrote: So if i win a prize in 2011, the company that are suppose to pay me the prize can just tell me "nope, we're gonna change our rules next year where we state that nobody will recieve their prizes"? Yeah, Blizzcup is pointless as its not NASL and will probably not pay you before 2012 | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:08 labbe wrote: Wrong, we are here because GOMTV is not being honest with us. And they are to stubborn to admit that they messed up. Naniwa acted childishly, apologized and payed for it - a way higher prize than he deserved i might add. GOMTV still has not admitted to doing anything wrong here, and they just keep lying to us. THAT'S what people are upset about. I think my biggest issue is that people are essentially saying "naniwa did something stupid, therefore GOM is justified doing almost anything to punish him." No one is willing to think about the severity of the transgressions. You dont just pick a punishment out of a hat, you need to be thoughtful. The fact GOM made a decision so soon just tells me it was an irrational and emotional decision because they were upset they didnt really have a concrete rule against what he did and they know it. | ||
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niteReloaded
Croatia5282 Posts
The entire point of Code S is that even if you lose your matches there, you're at least Code A next season, getting salary. If you win the Code S, you're code S AGAIN next season. If Naniwa won the tournament, he'd still have to go thru Code B & Code A to compete in Code S again. That's not how a Code S player is treated, which means Blizzard Cup =/= Code S status | ||
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Blacktion
United Kingdom1148 Posts
Pro Circuit Players Competing in the GSL At MLG Columbus, the Top 3 non-Korean finishers will each be placed into GSL Code A. At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, regardless of country of origin, who doesn't already have Code S status. Code A status will be awarded to the next 3 highest placing non-Korean players. If Code S status is awarded to a Korean player, Code A status also will be awarded to the 4th highest placing non-Korean player. All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by the GSL. GSL Pro Players Competing on the MLG Pro Circuit MLG will invite four Korean pro players to each Pro Circuit Live Competition. These players will be placed directly into the Championship Pools, one into each Pool. Their placement in the Pools will be determined by their GSL rank. All travel and accommodation expenses for these players will be provided by MLG. For MLG Columbus, we will also be inviting the winner of the CSN tournament, currently in progress. This player will be seeded into the Open Bracket, and their travel and accommodation expenses will be covered by CSN. From http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291 As i understand it, no Korean pros were invited to providence based on GSL rank, all the invites to providence were entirely based on points accumulated at previous MLG events. If the GSL to MLG transfers didnt apply for the providence event is it not logical that the reverse is true, that there wasnt a GSL code S slot available. Unless im very much mistaken, and im ready to be proven wrong, it seems like this whole thing has been a communication problem that people are blowing way out of proportion. | ||
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tnud
Sweden2233 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:09 Kenny_oro wrote: http://pro.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/25#2011_mlg_pro_circuit_official_rules Quote: 2. Entry for Pro Circuit Competitions There will be five (5)regular season Pro Circuit Competitions and one National Championship Pro Circuit Competition in the 2011 MLG Pro Circuit. 1. Dallas 2. Columbus 3. Anaheim 4. Raleigh 5. Orlando So if you take this realy serious - We had no korean players invited to Providence AND if you read the official rules made by MLG ist also says that there are just 5 Pro Circuit Competitions. Really sad but true .. I think there have been made huge faults - on all sides: - MLG stating the wrong announcement of Code S reward for NaNi (nothing said so far) - GOM not correcting them (don't see anything about this too) - NaNis behaviour in the game (which he already excused for ..) Dude! Talk about only reading what you want to read, just after the bolded part it says: National Championship Pro Circuit Competition EDIT: he fixed it. | ||
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:08 labbe wrote: Wrong, we are here because GOMTV is not being honest with us. And they are to stubborn to admit that they messed up. Naniwa acted childishly, apologized and payed for it - a way higher prize than he deserved i might add. GOMTV still has not admitted to doing anything wrong here, and they just keep lying to us. THAT'S what people are upset about. No it's not, it's just people wanting to get the blame on everyone instead of leaving things and moving on. If people are so upset, then they should just not buy tickets. If GOM notices a significant drop in income, then they know they've done something wrong, if they don't then who cares? | ||
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freeloader625
United States180 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:08 labbe wrote: Wrong, we are here because GOMTV is not being honest with us. And they are to stubborn to admit that they messed up. Naniwa acted childishly, apologized and payed for it - a way higher prize than he deserved i might add. GOMTV still has not admitted to doing anything wrong here, and they just keep lying to us. THAT'S what people are upset about. actually, i am here for the drama. =) | ||
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emesen
United States256 Posts
On December 15 2011 08:58 Ghanburighan wrote: Ok, a picture has emerged. GOMTV says that no Code S seed was awarded by Providence, it's a misunderstanding. The relevant rule is: "At every 2011 Pro Circuit Live Competition after MLG Columbus, GSL placement will occur as follows: Code S status will be awarded to the highest placing player, within the Top 3, regardless of country of origin, who does not already have Code S status." Providence is later than MLG Columbus, but not a circuit competition. Circuits are Dallas, Columbus, Anaheim, Raleigh and Orlando. Providence is considered the national championship. These facts need to be addressed before we can accuse GOMTV of lying, and, in fact, clarification by GOMTV and MLG would be nice just to clear the waters. wow logical examination of mlg <> gom partnership... while we're getting into semantics about providence being a part of the "pro circuit" I will whole-heartedly agree to the revelation that there were no korean "invites" to the national championship... as pool play was not a factor in the tournament this article on mlg's website about "invites" for providence http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/mc-mma-bomber-and-mvp-to-mlg-providence was only about covering expenses for players who were already qualified and seeded to participate in the event (with the exception of mvp who did not have a seed but had the costs covered) so was there any actual "exchange" for providence? or is paying the cost for those koreans the same as inviting them over? | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
On December 15 2011 09:10 Blacktion wrote: From http://www.gomtv.net/2011gslsponsors3/news/65291 As i understand it, no Korean pros were invited to providence based on GSL rank, all the invites to providence were entirely based on points accumulated at previous MLG events. If the GSL to MLG transfers didnt apply for the providence event is it not logical that the reverse is true, that there wasnt a GSL code S slot available. Unless im very much mistaken, and im ready to be proven wrong, it seems like this whole thing has been a communication problem that people are blowing way out of proportion. MLG paid for 4 koreans to come to MLG Providience. | ||
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foxSC
United States60 Posts
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wDDelete
103 Posts
Now on the other hand this response by GOM is some what messed up. They do a good job making the situation clear regarding the code S spot. But GOM took a stand here and they better follow what they preach, specially cause their actions are based on emotions and not rules. The idea that GOM is going to define a "progamer" and what a "spirit" of a progamer should be is absurd. Also, you cannot argue or base your argument on "dissapointment" and the "anticipation of a great match" because one would only have to look at the GSL finals and point out the hypocracy. On top of that, GOM's response should have started with an apology to the fans for having players play, casters cast, and the viewers watch negligible games. Finally, your decision was correct, Naniwa does seem to be at fault but do not respond with such a fluff response. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
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Lokj
Netherlands439 Posts
And now people still call Naniwa unprofessional? Geez, GOMTV just had to stay at their revoking. Although, imo, that wasn't the right decision they wouldn't feel like some populists trying to please everybody. | ||
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labbe
Sweden1456 Posts
Haha, you got me there  | ||
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