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DoA
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)599 Posts
December 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#161
I hope you stick by that, Naniwa! You've got a ton of talent with the right attitude attached to it you'll have a great career.
I cast, therefore I am.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
December 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#162
PR dude represent! Nice statement albiet devoid of NaNi's real feelings, we'll see if he's changed his ways in a few months.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Chenz
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden1197 Posts
December 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#163
On December 15 2011 06:23 KimJongIlJr wrote:
Khaldor tried to ask him a bit ago on his stream about the Blizzard cup. His response? "Shit happens"

Take that as you will.

Actually, that was regarding the fact that he lost all his games, not about his drone rush. Don't spread misinformation, please.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23579 Posts
December 14 2011 21:25 GMT
#164
If Naniwa is honest and really thinks what he has written, he deserves a lot of respect.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
colingrad
Profile Joined March 2008
United States210 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#165
On December 15 2011 06:23 KimJongIlJr wrote:
Khaldor tried to ask him a bit ago on his stream about the Blizzard cup. His response? "Shit happens"

Take that as you will.


he understandably doesnt want to involve himself in more discussion about what he did and why, its just been a day since it happened and probably just wants to move on and focus on other things. besides there is already an official statement so he has nothign to add
For the Emperor!
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#166
Really nice job by Quantic. Of all parties involved in this drama including the korean pro players and team Quantic act the best way stay silent at first and then issue a proper response and action.
LUCK is What Happens When Preparation Meets Opportunity.......
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#167
hahah, I wonder who wrote the statement for Naniwa.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Castles
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada77 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#168
nani shouldnt have to apologize for this, game throwing is very common and he just did it blatantly. not buying gom ticket because of how this was handled.
ITSGOD
diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#169
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:19 twndomn wrote:
It's really a cultural gap. Not even IdrA would dare to do what Naniwa has done, while IN Korea. IdrA spent years in Korea to understand Korean culture (perhaps respect, status quo... etc) and then to get some respects from the Koreans. Naniwa has yet to do that.

I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to.


I think it's really clear, as doa mentions, that the format was the way it was because it was, along with a big cash tournament, also supposed to be a showmatch for the fans. I'm sorry that Nani was out of contention, but it's not like they set it up to mercilessly make out of contention players play each other
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9179 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#170
On December 15 2011 06:23 Angel_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:17 Paladia wrote:
There has to be some kind of legal security if these tournaments are ever suppose to be taken seriously. If you do an action, you must be able to forsee the consequences based on the ruleset.

In no way can you foresee that doing a probe rush in a 100% worthless game in a completely different tournament would all of a sudden get you banned from Code S which you've already been granted a slot in. You can't have tournament organizers decide on a whim who gets banned and who gets special treatment.

So while Naniwa did something poorly, GomTV has as well.


I would disagree entirely, even though it's not really a good place in this thread, though by the same token, your post has no place in this thread either.

You even pretending GSL isn't taken seriously is ignorant at the very best. Beyond that, are you really suggesting that players need specific rules to conduct themselves appropriately and professionally? Really? And it's not up to tournaments to decide what is and isn't proper in the first place? I'm sorry if you don't feel that players should act professionally because "they're just people" or whatever argument you'd like to make, but it's past time that people understand that SC is something that's going to take itself seriously and have standards, and when you violate those standards it's bad for everyone in esports, and beyond that, no one person is above that just because they have some fans.


Then those standards should be published in non-vague terms that are purposefully left open for arbitrary interpretation.
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GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#171
Hopefully we can all shut up and move on now, good statements by Quantic and Naniwa. I feel like the game shouldn't have happened to begin with, but I guess this is an alright solution
Encrypto
Profile Joined August 2010
United States442 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#172
On December 15 2011 06:11 dala wrote:
Wow, in the past 24 hours NaNiwa has grown up!


QF[sarcastic]T
shire
Profile Joined August 2010
United States405 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#173
you know what will be good? Naniwa vs Nestea as a pregame show in the finals!



as a side note, teamliquid really needs 'like' button so we can 'like' the posts we see. LOL
0800
Profile Joined December 2011
United States11 Posts
December 14 2011 21:26 GMT
#174
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:19 twndomn wrote:
It's really a cultural gap. Not even IdrA would dare to do what Naniwa has done, while IN Korea. IdrA spent years in Korea to understand Korean culture (perhaps respect, status quo... etc) and then to get some respects from the Koreans. Naniwa has yet to do that.

I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to.


I agree but there is one big difference.

Naniwa is an idividual while GOMTV is a company that should ALWAYS act correctly and professionally.
This is why it is extremely disappointing seeing such a reaction from GOMTV; they reacted like an emotional individual (exactly like Naniwa during that game) while they should be the ones setting the bar for quality and great example.
On the top of that because they applied this rule this way, they created a double standard by not applying it in other cases prior to this one, which makes them loose credibility as an institution and as an eSPORTS medium.

GOMTV should rethink their action and admit they over reacted.
Dreamgzer
Profile Joined October 2011
United States17 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#175
Gom expects players to be robots. They are not, they have feelings and can express them in any shape or form. What's next? Warnings for using manner mules?This game will become as stale as golf...
o.O
o[twist]
Profile Joined May 2008
United States4903 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#176
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:19 twndomn wrote:
It's really a cultural gap. Not even IdrA would dare to do what Naniwa has done, while IN Korea. IdrA spent years in Korea to understand Korean culture (perhaps respect, status quo... etc) and then to get some respects from the Koreans. Naniwa has yet to do that.

I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to.


i'm also interested to see whether this happens. however, i don't think it will, and i don't think this apology is written in a way that suggests naniwa or quantic expect it to, either.
AbstractRDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Greece4 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#177
On December 15 2011 06:09 KAkos MAgos wrote:
well dont apologize. idra ragequits and is badmannered too and no one says something.
GOMTV is being sillly with its descision. comon. ITS A GAME WTF. thank go we are not like the koreans and take that whole gaming thing so seriously.

I don't think you even know anything about pro-gaming or what's happening in the world in terms of e-Sports.

He's getting paid to play this game, and his team spends a ton of money to send him to Korea and then GSL. People are paying to watch those games (VODS and HD) and saying "ITS A GAME WTF" is totally retarded. It's like saying a professional basketball player denying to play with his shirt off, cause its just a game right?

Also saying "thank god we are not like koreans and take that whole gaming thing so seriously" is just your point of view. A ton of people in the West take this game very seriously. Do your reading please...
felle
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#178
Fucking thrash koreans bitching like whore niggers about their pro bullshit suck a big fucking dick it makes me so fucking mad when they think they are so superior.

User was banned for this post.
lsc2.
Basher_
Profile Joined January 2011
82 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#179
Amen. Nani was wrong. No meaningless games. That's exactly it.
jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
December 14 2011 21:27 GMT
#180
Hey Quantic Gaming,

Organize a bo5 or bo7 showmatch pitting Naniwa against Nestea. Put up a $1000 prize pool, have of the prize pool goes to the winner while the other half goes to the winner's choice of charity.

This would give the fans the "rival match" that was "stolen" from them and it would be good PR. This would also help mend the relationship between Naniwa/Quantic and the e-sport community.
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