EPTWhy I Think Stephano is a Really Good SC2 Player - Page 46
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juked
United States691 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On December 13 2011 11:51 The KY wrote: Who said anything about ladder ranking? However you have provided no counter argument to the idea that they must take ladder fairly seriously because most of them play it too much for it to be for fun. Plus; these people might just play MORE ladder. That doesn't mean it's a joke to everyone else. Howbout nestea 6 pools just about every ladder game he plays, super serious mode right? | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On December 13 2011 12:06 hunts wrote: Howbout nestea 6 pools just about every ladder game he plays, super serious mode right? Oh it's you again. *leaves thread forever* User was warned for this post | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
And stephano reaching top 30 of GM in 4 days? | ||
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tdt
United States3179 Posts
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Terrafros
Netherlands194 Posts
New posters: Please note this topic's last post before the necro was 13 days ago. It's best to leave it to fall to the bottom again. | ||
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DKo
United States187 Posts
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Aterons_toss
Romania1275 Posts
Do note that Sase had top 100 GM as far as i remember and player like Makaprime have had top 1/2 1/3 spots in GM with 2account for months last season, so rating isn't THAT much of a proof of him being good ( not to take anything away from Maka, but hes not Code S level by any means ). | ||
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Biggun69
187 Posts
On December 26 2011 14:29 DKo wrote: One reason I think Stephano is really good was that when I was watching his stream, I noticed he also hotkeys his eggs (or units in production) so hes in complete control of them when they hatch. This minor thing is my far the most impressive thing I've seen in Stephano. I've been doing that since season 2 . . . Stephano is still an amazing player no matter what people say. He has 350+ apm and 180 eapm. It's also extremely difficult to maintain a win/loss ratio of above 70% with zerg because of all the random cheese and shit that people can do. | ||
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Resonance
Canada113 Posts
he has a build that works well until people figure it out. while he has the ability to macro and has a high apm, he really lacks the skill set of a korean. i personally think he'll make no further than ro8 code s at his peak. | ||
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kelyos
United Kingdom11 Posts
On December 26 2011 18:56 Aterons_toss wrote: I will fail to be impressed until i see GSL results, he will likely be able to have an invite to Code A so im waiting for January to see him get beaten/not dominate and say "hes just another good player" since the MLG results could idd be him being tired/not liking the open bracket/middle of the crowd+noisy form MLG has. Do note that Sase had top 100 GM as far as i remember and player like Makaprime have had top 1/2 1/3 spots in GM with 2account for months last season, so rating isn't THAT much of a proof of him being good ( not to take anything away from Maka, but hes not Code S level by any means ). It ain't maka but MKP who playing on these accounts | ||
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Elean
689 Posts
On December 26 2011 18:56 Aterons_toss wrote: I will fail to be impressed until i see GSL results, he will likely be able to have an invite to Code A so im waiting for January to see him get beaten/not dominate and say "hes just another good player" since the MLG results could idd be him being tired/not liking the open bracket/middle of the crowd+noisy form MLG has. Do note that Sase had top 100 GM as far as i remember and player like Makaprime have had top 1/2 1/3 spots in GM with 2account for months last season, so rating isn't THAT much of a proof of him being good ( not to take anything away from Maka, but hes not Code S level by any means ). GSL format really isn't the best place to judge the skill of a player. With this format, a weaker player can compensate the lack of skill with a superior preparation. I doubt we will ever see Stephano in the GSL, for two simple reason: First, there is more money to make outside korea. Second Stephano would be at a clear disavantage in the GSL since his team will not enable him to prepare as well as the koreans. Stephano is smart enough to go to the events that will maximize his gains. So instead of waiting for Stephano to participate in the GSL, I think we should hope for the top koreans to attend more foreign events. | ||
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ArhK
France287 Posts
Here is he Xmas statement, in French : + Show Spoiler + Bonjour à tous, Les fêtes de fin d'années battent leur plein et l'heure est venue pour moi de faire un petit bilan de l'année qui vient de s'écouler, ainsi que de mes projets à venir. Durant les premiers mois de 2011, mes résultats ont en quelques sortes confirmé mon niveau de jeu, comprendre par là qu'il n'y'avait rien d'exceptionnel et que pour moi à ce moment précis j'avais atteint une sorte de palier. J'étais assez satisfait de mes performances, sans pour autant espérer plus. Je ne songeais pas du tout à prendre une année pour me consacrer à Starcraft 2.Mes études me prenaient vraiment trop de temps et surtout je ne me voyais pas gagner aussi bien ma vie sur un jeu vidéo. Il a fallu attendre le début de l'été pour que je commence à sérieusement envisager cette possibilité. Ma performance à la HomeStory Cup 3 et surtout mon TOP 3 à la Lan Assembly ont vraiment été des éléments déclencheurs dans ma décision. J'ai réalisé à ce moment – là que je pouvais encore grandir en terme de qualité et jeu et aller me confronter aux plus grands. C'est d'ailleurs dans cette optique que j'ai tenté ma chance aux qualifications pour les IPL 3, sans vraiment trop y croire. Les remporter était déjà pour moi quelque chose d'énorme, je ne m'attendais vraiment pas à gagner le tournoi entier quelques semaines plus tard. Après avoir remporté l'ESWC, j'ai commencé à penser à la Corée et à tout ce que ce pays pouvait m'apporter. Ce voyage m'a démontré que j'avais encore beaucoup à apprendre et que c'est vraiment l'endroit où il faut être si l'on veut vraiment s'améliorer. À quelques jours de mon retour en France, le bilan est cependant plutôt mitigé : je pense avoir vraiment appris. J'ai pu constater les limites de mon jeu et par la suite pallier à ses défauts. Le rythme d'entrainement en revanche ne me convient pas du tout. Le fait de passer à dix heures de jeu par jour m'a vraiment épuisé, c'est beaucoup trop. J'aime avoir mes activités en dehors du jeu et je pense que quelque part ce rythme peut nuire à ma progression sur le long terme, dans le sens où je ne progresse qu'en appréciant de jouer. Actuellement ce n'est plus trop le cas. Mon retour en France se profile à l'horizon et j'ai vraiment hâte de retrouver mes proches .pour ce qui est de la suite des évènements j'avoue ne pas encore avoir pris une réelle décision. Mes derniers résultats ne sont pas vraiment mauvais, vous êtes de plus en plus nombreux à me suivre sur mon stream et je pense pouvoir encore progresser dans les mois à venir. Les prochains évènements seront probablement déterminants dans ma décision finale, la route est encore longue et je compte vraiment faire mon possible pour remporter le plus de compétitions possible. Pour finir, je tiens à remercier toutes les personnes qui me suivent au quotidien, j'espère ne pas vous décevoir dans les events à venir. Bonnes fêtes à tous, Link : http://www.millenium.org/starcraft-2/accueil/actualites/sc2-un-mot-de-stephano-pour-noel-les-voeux-du-joueur-millenium-zerg-57386 I may do the translation if people are really interested, otherwise I won't :-). | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 26 2011 13:45 tdt wrote: He had a good run at IPL. Big deal a lot of players have great runs when in the zone that does not make them best in the world but rather long standing success such as MVP, Nestea and MC with a track record. Oh and those b teamers Koreans he beat at foriegn tournaments you fail to include his destruction at the hand of various S classers. Typical. didn't he beat some great korean terrans at IPL? he just got to Korea, I'm not sure how he could possible have the long running success of any of those players at this point. your view will never allow you to follow an up and coming great player... you're gonna miss a lot of the fun of following the scene. | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1359 Posts
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BrassMonkey27
Canada616 Posts
On December 26 2011 19:24 Resonance wrote: stephano is overrated imo. he has a build that works well until people figure it out. while he has the ability to macro and has a high apm, he really lacks the skill set of a korean. i personally think he'll make no further than ro8 code s at his peak. You claim he's overrated,, then say code s r8 would be his peak? I think many players (stephano included) would be quite happy with that so I have a tough time labeling him as overrated when you have those type of standards. | ||
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mememolly
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CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On December 26 2011 21:46 BrassMonkey27 wrote: You claim he's overrated,, then say code s r8 would be his peak? I think many players (stephano included) would be quite happy with that so I have a tough time labeling him as overrated when you have those type of standards. because even that would defeat the OP's assertion that he is best | ||
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chenchen
United States1136 Posts
On December 26 2011 21:46 BrassMonkey27 wrote: You claim he's overrated,, then say code s r8 would be his peak? I think many players (stephano included) would be quite happy with that so I have a tough time labeling him as overrated when you have those type of standards. To be completely honest, there's little chance that Stephano can get out of ro32 group stages in Code S if he ever participates. Maybe if he gets a really weak group with the likes of Genius and Yugioh. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On December 26 2011 21:46 BrassMonkey27 wrote: You claim he's overrated,, then say code s r8 would be his peak? I think many players (stephano included) would be quite happy with that so I have a tough time labeling him as overrated when you have those type of standards. Don't include Stephano in thinking that RO8 result is good because he said he wants to make 400k a year playing SC2 lol. There is little doubt that he is good, not really sure about "great" yet. My issue with him isn't his general attitude, but his mind set. He believes that he will graduate college and instantly become a billionaire. I heard he is smart, but he really thinks hitting the top being a doctor (i think?) is as easy as being a top dog in SC2. But it is his life and I would like to see more foreigners hitting RO4+ in GSL, so GO STEPHANO | ||
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