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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
December 12 2011 13:03 GMT
#701
I'm not a big Stephano fan. I think the hype around him was too much but I have to say he surprised me positively during the Blizzard Cup. It's a shame he didn't advance.
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Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
December 12 2011 13:12 GMT
#702
On December 12 2011 21:58 mrtomjones wrote:
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On December 12 2011 21:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:52 Squeegy wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:40 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:32 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:29 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:27 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:25 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:16 HappyChris wrote:
[quote]

How cute come on haters dont you got more?

He looked good fanboy. But he isn't everything you claim he is. He's still nowhere near MVP level. Mind you no one is. Stop claiming he is the best in the world and he will have more fans


No one in there right mind has claimed he is the best in the world only trolls and anti stephano haters has claimed that to get a reaction. All we have been saying that Stephano is one of the best players in the world and thats a fact. Is he top 10 or top 20 i dont care he is just up there.


Every post I have seen from you makes you look like a crazy fanboy so yah.... No one in their right mind would have made this thread. No one in their right mind calls him worlds best. And no one in their right mind calls him terrible. If he were to try a round or two in the GSL it would be easier to place him amongst the best... but not doing GSL=only playing some lans against people with no time to prepare.

Personally I hope he goes to GSL. Him, Idra, Huk, and Naniwa could show some good games there.


Crazy fanboy? plz go over all my post. I have never claimed Stephano to be the best in the world. All I have done is providing facts and statistic why he is by fare the best foreigner player and a world class zerg.

plz provide me evidence where i come out as a crazy fanboy?

The "by far the best foreigner" part of that post seems to me to be fanboyish. He hasn't won more tournaments than Huk for example and Huk does nothing but travel. There are plenty of foreigners up for top spot. Sen? Thorzain(less so lately), Idra is close, Naniwa(as much as I am not the hugest fan) is very good too. By far best foreigner? I'd disagree.

I only see naniwa being the remotely close one ATM. Traveling is not an excuse. If you can't handle it then you should just stay home.


Travelling is an excuse. It means you lose time focusing on the game. A lot of players who have travelled a lot have said this.

He might be playing bad because of it, but that's like saying you're sucking because you're not practicing. It was never an excuse for MC, and it shouldn't be for Huk. If he keeps going around to every tournament like this then there is no one to blame but himself.

MC made that exact same excuse dude. He said he was going to go to less tournaments and train hard. This was near the middle of his slump. He hasn't gone elsewhere much since that comment and has improved a ton once again. SC players train a ton each day. Traveling doesnt allow that. How is that not a valid excuse? -_-


Because it's a deliberate choice to value tournaments over practice. It's the same as valuing watching ten episodes of Game of Thrones instead of practicing, it's an explanation for poor results but not an excuse. An excuse would be if there's something out of your control, such as illness, a broken arm or whatnot.

There's a difference between an explanation and an excuse.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
December 12 2011 13:19 GMT
#703
On December 12 2011 22:12 Longshank wrote:
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On December 12 2011 21:58 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:52 Squeegy wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:40 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:32 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:29 mrtomjones wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:27 HappyChris wrote:
On December 12 2011 21:25 mrtomjones wrote:
[quote]
He looked good fanboy. But he isn't everything you claim he is. He's still nowhere near MVP level. Mind you no one is. Stop claiming he is the best in the world and he will have more fans


No one in there right mind has claimed he is the best in the world only trolls and anti stephano haters has claimed that to get a reaction. All we have been saying that Stephano is one of the best players in the world and thats a fact. Is he top 10 or top 20 i dont care he is just up there.


Every post I have seen from you makes you look like a crazy fanboy so yah.... No one in their right mind would have made this thread. No one in their right mind calls him worlds best. And no one in their right mind calls him terrible. If he were to try a round or two in the GSL it would be easier to place him amongst the best... but not doing GSL=only playing some lans against people with no time to prepare.

Personally I hope he goes to GSL. Him, Idra, Huk, and Naniwa could show some good games there.


Crazy fanboy? plz go over all my post. I have never claimed Stephano to be the best in the world. All I have done is providing facts and statistic why he is by fare the best foreigner player and a world class zerg.

plz provide me evidence where i come out as a crazy fanboy?

The "by far the best foreigner" part of that post seems to me to be fanboyish. He hasn't won more tournaments than Huk for example and Huk does nothing but travel. There are plenty of foreigners up for top spot. Sen? Thorzain(less so lately), Idra is close, Naniwa(as much as I am not the hugest fan) is very good too. By far best foreigner? I'd disagree.

I only see naniwa being the remotely close one ATM. Traveling is not an excuse. If you can't handle it then you should just stay home.


Travelling is an excuse. It means you lose time focusing on the game. A lot of players who have travelled a lot have said this.

He might be playing bad because of it, but that's like saying you're sucking because you're not practicing. It was never an excuse for MC, and it shouldn't be for Huk. If he keeps going around to every tournament like this then there is no one to blame but himself.

MC made that exact same excuse dude. He said he was going to go to less tournaments and train hard. This was near the middle of his slump. He hasn't gone elsewhere much since that comment and has improved a ton once again. SC players train a ton each day. Traveling doesnt allow that. How is that not a valid excuse? -_-


Because it's a deliberate choice to value tournaments over practice. It's the same as valuing watching ten episodes of Game of Thrones instead of practicing, it's an explanation for poor results but not an excuse. An excuse would be if there's something out of your control, such as illness, a broken arm or whatnot.

There's a difference between an explanation and an excuse.


2ex·cuse
noun \ik-ˈskyüs\
Definition of EXCUSE
1 : the act of excusing
2 a : something offered as justification or as grounds for being excused
b plural : an expression of regret for failure to do something
c : a note of explanation of an absence
3 : justification, reason

It is an excuse for their poor performance.
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quancer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada161 Posts
December 12 2011 13:20 GMT
#704
It was a good showing for Stephano in that he didn't get outclassed and could have advanced had one or two things gone differently (unlike Hero, poor guy). That being said, I still don't see how people can say he is easily the best foreigner and use tonight's results to support that.

Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.
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BrassMonkey27
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada616 Posts
December 12 2011 13:22 GMT
#705
On December 12 2011 21:56 mrtomjones wrote:
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On December 12 2011 21:55 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Personally I think his understanding of ZvT is phenomenal. Same with his ZvZ. Stephano's ZvP will hold him back until he makes some big improvements in that matchup. I think you could say the same for a lot of Zergs right now, though. ZvP just feels so volatile at the moment.

uhhh,... what? ZVP is stephano's best matchup.... ZVP in korea is VERY heavily favored for zergs....



His style of mass upgraded ling has certainly been more influential than anything he has done in the ZvP matchup. I think he's a good all around player, but his ZvP could be a lot better than it is now.
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Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
December 12 2011 13:26 GMT
#706
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)
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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
December 12 2011 13:27 GMT
#707
On December 12 2011 21:56 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 21:55 BrassMonkey27 wrote:
Personally I think his understanding of ZvT is phenomenal. Same with his ZvZ. Stephano's ZvP will hold him back until he makes some big improvements in that matchup. I think you could say the same for a lot of Zergs right now, though. ZvP just feels so volatile at the moment.

uhhh,... what? ZVP is stephano's best matchup.... ZVP in korea is VERY heavily favored for zergs....


Not, it's not.

After the fungal nerf and the cheapening of all protoss forge upgrades, Protoss jumped to 52% win rate in korean TLPD results, and it's still going up.
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
December 12 2011 13:29 GMT
#708
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?
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Subztance
Profile Joined August 2010
United States139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 13:34:16
December 12 2011 13:30 GMT
#709
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Not to argue technicality but based on his post quancer may have been suggesting Stephano is not the greatest foreigner nor top10 including koreans.

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Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
December 12 2011 13:31 GMT
#710
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


I think it was top 10 including Korea.
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quancer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 14:11:43
December 12 2011 13:32 GMT
#711
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


I said top 10 in the world, not top 10 foreigner. He's obviously a top 10 foreigner by results alone.

In regards to earnings, that's an obfuscation. You choose that statistic because it supports your view, not because you believe it's the best measure of how much weight the tournaments should be given. You cannot say his tournament wins are clearly greater achievements than Huk's consistent Code S runs and MLG win or Naniwa's second at Providence and first in the mini-MLG before Providence, where in both cases he had to beat the absolute cream of the crop to finish like he did.
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Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
December 12 2011 13:35 GMT
#712
On December 12 2011 22:29 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?

He clearly doesn't belong in top 10 foreigner. Right!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
December 12 2011 13:36 GMT
#713
On December 12 2011 22:29 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?


stephano attended 1 mlg. directly after winning ipl. from the open bracket.
huk and idra attended 5+ mlgs. from pool play. everytime.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)[

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Ylrahc
Profile Joined September 2011
France496 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 13:41:50
December 12 2011 13:37 GMT
#714
On December 12 2011 22:29 sereniity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?

Have you even gone past the list, click on each player and compare the tournament wins ?


I said top 10 in the world, not top 10 foreigner. He's obviously a top 10 foreigner by results alone.

Okay, sorry then :-)
Well considering MLG and how the brackets / pools are done, I consider Stephano IPL victory to be much more significative. And he won ESWC and IPL4 london qualifiers right after he went back from his trip in US, which is no small feat either. It's a matter of point of view, as always but I do think his achievements are better than Huk's lately, Naniwa being on par. (I was impressed by his MLG performance, that's why I was happy to see him at the blizzard cup, him and Stephano have been lately the best foreigners in my opinion.)

I'd personally rank Stephano top5 foreigner and top20 world (as it's very very hard to do a top10, besides MVP MC and Nestea no player has shown constant dominance or accumulation of successes), and his results at the GSL Blizz cup do not prove me wrong :-))
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quancer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada161 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 14:12:22
December 12 2011 14:09 GMT
#715
On December 12 2011 22:37 Ylrahc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:29 sereniity wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?

Have you even gone past the list, click on each player and compare the tournament wins ?

Show nested quote +

I said top 10 in the world, not top 10 foreigner. He's obviously a top 10 foreigner by results alone.

Okay, sorry then :-)
Well considering MLG and how the brackets / pools are done, I consider Stephano IPL victory to be much more significative. And he won ESWC and IPL4 london qualifiers right after he went back from his trip in US, which is no small feat either. It's a matter of point of view, as always but I do think his achievements are better than Huk's lately, Naniwa being on par. (I was impressed by his MLG performance, that's why I was happy to see him at the blizzard cup, him and Stephano have been lately the best foreigners in my opinion.)

I'd personally rank Stephano top5 foreigner and top20 world (as it's very very hard to do a top10, besides MVP MC and Nestea no player has shown constant dominance or accumulation of successes), and his results at the GSL Blizz cup do not prove me wrong :-))


Yeah, well then we'll have to agree to disagree on whose recent results have been more impressive. It's important to note that it's not absolutely clear one way or the other, regardless of our separate opinions. What's indisputable, however, is that Stephano has showed some of the best recent results and play among foreigners.

The only logical conclusion from the past year is that Stephano is clearly an absolutely elite foreign player and that there is reason to suspect that he could be an elite player in Korea as well, if he decides to play there. Nothing more needs to be said on this topic, and my condolences to Stephano and his fans who've had to suffer the stirred-up controversy of this obvious troll thread.
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HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 12 2011 14:13 GMT
#716
On December 12 2011 23:09 quancer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 22:37 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:29 sereniity wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:26 Ylrahc wrote:
On December 12 2011 22:20 quancer wrote:
Naniwa and Huk have shown much much more impressive results recently. And it's still not even clear that Stephano showed more potential than, say, Idra or Sen, or Dimaga. Stephano is a great talent, but to say he's a top 10 player, or the greatest foreigner, is ridiculously premature. It's incredible how easily people say these sorts of things.

Care to list HuK, Naniwa and Stephano achievements from the last 2 / 3 months and come back please ?
Stephano is at least on par, if not better. Go get a look at http://www.sc2earnings.com/ for example.

Saying that Stephano is best foreigner by far is either a troll or being blinded by fanboism, saying he isn't top10 foreigner atm is either or troll or being blinded by hate :-)


Yeah because money earned totally shows who's the best...

Have you even tried to compare the #1 prize from MLG compared to IPL?

Have you even gone past the list, click on each player and compare the tournament wins ?


I said top 10 in the world, not top 10 foreigner. He's obviously a top 10 foreigner by results alone.

Okay, sorry then :-)
Well considering MLG and how the brackets / pools are done, I consider Stephano IPL victory to be much more significative. And he won ESWC and IPL4 london qualifiers right after he went back from his trip in US, which is no small feat either. It's a matter of point of view, as always but I do think his achievements are better than Huk's lately, Naniwa being on par. (I was impressed by his MLG performance, that's why I was happy to see him at the blizzard cup, him and Stephano have been lately the best foreigners in my opinion.)

I'd personally rank Stephano top5 foreigner and top20 world (as it's very very hard to do a top10, besides MVP MC and Nestea no player has shown constant dominance or accumulation of successes), and his results at the GSL Blizz cup do not prove me wrong :-))


Yeah, well then we'll have to agree to disagree on whose recent results have been more impressive. It's important to note that it's not absolutely clear one way or the other, regardless of our separate opinions. What's indisputable, however, is that Stephano has showed some of the best recent results and play among foreigners.

The only logical conclusion from the past year is that Stephano is clearly an absolutely elite foreign player and that there is reason to suspect that he could be an elite player in Korea as well, if he decides to play there. Nothing more needs to be said on this topic, and my condolences to Stephano and his fans who've had to suffer the stirred-up controversy of this obvious troll thread.


We are used to it but thx for you support quancer
bonedriven
Profile Joined August 2010
258 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-12 15:06:50
December 12 2011 15:02 GMT
#717
DRG commented on Stephano after Blizzard Cup. He said Stephano's play is solid, but invariant, so it is easy to study his style and find a way to counter.

The reason he lost to stephano was due to his own mistake, he explained though.

Source(in chinese): http://s.163.com/11/1212/21/7L3SE77N00314D0E.html

edit: add link
Hence,"Like a Virgin."
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 12 2011 15:04 GMT
#718
On December 13 2011 00:02 bonedriven wrote:
DRG commented on Stephano after Blizzard Cup. He said Stephano's play is solid, but invariant, so it is easy to study his style and find a way to counter.

Source(in chinese): http://s.163.com/11/1212/21/7L3SE77N00314D0E.html

edit: add link


MVP also commented that he could easily be Code S. I would not say best foreigner but somewhere in top 5, and I am no Stephano fan.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Flowjo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States928 Posts
December 12 2011 15:20 GMT
#719
Number 1 in the world eh bro? But seriously I'm not downplaying his skill or achievements ( I think he's easily top 3 foreign Zerg if not top 1) but please no more super overhype.
IMNestea's biggest fan.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 12 2011 15:25 GMT
#720
On December 13 2011 00:20 Flowjo wrote:
Number 1 in the world eh bro? But seriously I'm not downplaying his skill or achievements ( I think he's easily top 3 foreign Zerg if not top 1) but please no more super overhype.


The thread maker is clearly an antifan or troll. He have never posted in the Stephano fan club dont fall into his trap.

If you want to chat with his rational fans come to his fanclub page
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