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On December 10 2011 23:24 danteafk wrote:
naniwa got so skinny in korea.
frightening.
He looks healthy and well rested to me......
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O_O two stories that contradict each other. Call me crazy but I do believe Naniwa when he says that he initiated the sale and not coL.
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On December 10 2011 23:05 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 22:35 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 22:10 Mstring wrote:On December 10 2011 22:07 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 21:59 Mstring wrote:
Is this real life?
Carry on lads.
Fake edit: Go nani! >.> Hey big boy, thx for your insight! My insight would go right over your head. I'd rather just enjoy the show. Regards, Big boy Not surprising to see that someone who thinks he's the bee's knees would also thinks his insight is flying. You must be a student in psychology cause every post of yours yells "I can read your mind".
You must be a student in sociology cause you can read my occupation in my posts, yet a terrible one since you confused psychology with telepathy.
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On December 10 2011 22:41 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 21:25 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 21:22 thirnaz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:18 MepHiii wrote:On December 10 2011 19:45 NKsc2 wrote:On December 10 2011 19:21 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 18:47 turdburgler wrote:On December 10 2011 18:19 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 17:58 turdburgler wrote:On December 10 2011 17:44 ceaRshaf wrote:
I understand Naniwas point of view, but remember what EGs manager said in an interview, that they want in a player to be obviously good, but more important to be presentable, have charisma and have lots of fans to carry sponsors well.
In the eyes of a company Naniwa is a waste of money. He doesn't care about fans or sponsors, only about the game and there is no money to be earned with him. clearly quantic disagrees. and im sure they know more about it than you Love this kind of comments. And if quantic let's go naniwa then what? Quantic thinks that they can make money out of him. I hope they can so that everybody is happy, but the reason still stands. Naniwa is a difficult person for a manager. if they let him go then you will of been proven right. but what if they dont? what if eg kick idra ? what if col disbands? random what if questions that you have no basis for. What reason do I have for thinking EG will kick idra? Or that COL disbands? None. But what reasons do I have for Naniwa to change his team again? His past. Btw, not saying that he will, just telling you that thinking the possibility is not far fetched. What does incontrol have to do with this? Incontrol is a whole different deal, he is constantly doing commercials, retweeting for their sponsors, participating in SOTG and he is reperesenting EG really well by being a loved by the community. He isn't that good at starcraft (in pro standards), but that doesn't matter. I bet you that even if he got his fingers chopped off EG wouldn't kick him. They do not keep incontrol in their team because they think he'll win tournaments, I can promise you that. We were comparing Catz vs. Naniwa, Streaming low NA GM for 3,000 viewers vs. winning a fucking MLG infront of 300,000 people in a sponsor-drowned teamshirt. Stay ontopic now I feel like I am talking to a 3 year old, that can't focus on a discussion. That was the whole point dude. You claimed that him being so good at starcraft and placing high must be that important to a company. And I brought up Incontrol, the exact opposite of Naniwa. Talking to this forum sometimes feels like being in a kindergarten. Ok fine let's compare with incontrol. Here's a quote of what you said: In the eyes of a company Naniwa is a waste of money. He doesn't care about fans or sponsors, only about the game and there is no money to be earned with him. Incontrol is worth more for a company than naniwa is? I can bet you my life that naniwa gets payed higher tho. To any company outside of complexity, he's definetly worth more than Catz. You're so out of touch with reality. you, sir, are actually wrong. you don't realise the whole story, else why do you think are naniwa's teams actively trying to get rid of him  i'm pretty sure if you asked a hypothetical team that has worked with both incontrol/catz and naniwa, who they would like to pick up, it won't be naniwa they will be shooting for. don't bet your life when all you know about the situation is that which you read on TL forums NaNiWa told coL he wants to get sold, they werent the ones initiating it. I like how you just make up random stuff when you havent watched the interview or read about it. Also iNcontroL wouldnt be worth more to EG than Naniwa if it wasnt for the fact that he's some sort of mini-coach for the team. If you look at his appearances and results alone Naniwa would be worth so much more. I'd be very surprised if naniwa makes more money than incontrol. He might be a million times the better player, but Incontrol's media committments and brand recognition would be worth $$$. When you watch the EG house tour, Idra's not the one with the massive pimped out bedroom. How does the amount of pointless items you have reflect how much money you earn? I know a billionaire (yes billionaire) who rolls around in a rusty car from 1995 and wears old clothes, never spends money on anything except business, yet he has a ridiculous amount. When you're staying in a house paid for by your pro-gamer team, and your room is twice as big as your star player's room while other players are sharing tiny rooms, I think that speaks for itself as to his deal with EG.
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On December 10 2011 23:39 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:05 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 22:35 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 22:10 Mstring wrote:On December 10 2011 22:07 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 21:59 Mstring wrote:
Is this real life?
Carry on lads.
Fake edit: Go nani! >.> Hey big boy, thx for your insight! My insight would go right over your head. I'd rather just enjoy the show. Regards, Big boy Not surprising to see that someone who thinks he's the bee's knees would also thinks his insight is flying. You must be a student in psychology cause every post of yours yells "I can read your mind". You must be a student in sociology cause you can read my occupation in my posts, yet a terrible one since you confused psychology with telepathy.
Student in telepathy? Awesome!
Anyway, your reading on that dude was so off and it was clear what he was trying to say, but I guess not clear enough for you.
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On December 10 2011 23:49 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:39 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 23:05 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 22:35 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 22:10 Mstring wrote:On December 10 2011 22:07 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 21:59 Mstring wrote:
Is this real life?
Carry on lads.
Fake edit: Go nani! >.> Hey big boy, thx for your insight! My insight would go right over your head. I'd rather just enjoy the show. Regards, Big boy Not surprising to see that someone who thinks he's the bee's knees would also thinks his insight is flying. You must be a student in psychology cause every post of yours yells "I can read your mind". You must be a student in sociology cause you can read my occupation in my posts, yet a terrible one since you confused psychology with telepathy. Student in telepathy? Awesome! Anyway, your reading on that dude was so off and it was clear what he was trying to say, but I guess not clear enough for you.
Between the two you chose the absurd, I would like to congratulate you back but my tongue would suffer the taste of bitterness.
Let me phrase it again instead: to read someone's mind doesn't belong to the field of psychology, and thus not what you can learn when studying psychology.
Talking about being off, your whole speech is.
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On December 10 2011 23:33 Pudge_172 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:24 danteafk wrote:
naniwa got so skinny in korea.
frightening. He looks healthy and well rested to me......
And his hair looks pretty cool. To me this should be the headline, it's the real important news. Not Naniwa talks about moving to Quantic, but Naniwa has tidied up and dyed his hair.
EDIT: Nani seems to get pretty affected by haters...saddening. Naniwa you're my favourite player I look forward to watching you crush nerds.
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On December 10 2011 23:46 joshboy42 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 22:41 Sneakyz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:25 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 21:22 thirnaz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:18 MepHiii wrote:On December 10 2011 19:45 NKsc2 wrote:On December 10 2011 19:21 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 18:47 turdburgler wrote:On December 10 2011 18:19 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 17:58 turdburgler wrote:
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clearly quantic disagrees. and im sure they know more about it than you Love this kind of comments. And if quantic let's go naniwa then what? Quantic thinks that they can make money out of him. I hope they can so that everybody is happy, but the reason still stands. Naniwa is a difficult person for a manager. if they let him go then you will of been proven right. but what if they dont? what if eg kick idra ? what if col disbands? random what if questions that you have no basis for. What reason do I have for thinking EG will kick idra? Or that COL disbands? None. But what reasons do I have for Naniwa to change his team again? His past. Btw, not saying that he will, just telling you that thinking the possibility is not far fetched. What does incontrol have to do with this? Incontrol is a whole different deal, he is constantly doing commercials, retweeting for their sponsors, participating in SOTG and he is reperesenting EG really well by being a loved by the community. He isn't that good at starcraft (in pro standards), but that doesn't matter. I bet you that even if he got his fingers chopped off EG wouldn't kick him. They do not keep incontrol in their team because they think he'll win tournaments, I can promise you that. We were comparing Catz vs. Naniwa, Streaming low NA GM for 3,000 viewers vs. winning a fucking MLG infront of 300,000 people in a sponsor-drowned teamshirt. Stay ontopic now I feel like I am talking to a 3 year old, that can't focus on a discussion. That was the whole point dude. You claimed that him being so good at starcraft and placing high must be that important to a company. And I brought up Incontrol, the exact opposite of Naniwa. Talking to this forum sometimes feels like being in a kindergarten. Ok fine let's compare with incontrol. Here's a quote of what you said: In the eyes of a company Naniwa is a waste of money. He doesn't care about fans or sponsors, only about the game and there is no money to be earned with him. Incontrol is worth more for a company than naniwa is? I can bet you my life that naniwa gets payed higher tho. To any company outside of complexity, he's definetly worth more than Catz. You're so out of touch with reality. you, sir, are actually wrong. you don't realise the whole story, else why do you think are naniwa's teams actively trying to get rid of him i'm pretty sure if you asked a hypothetical team that has worked with both incontrol/catz and naniwa, who they would like to pick up, it won't be naniwa they will be shooting for. don't bet your life when all you know about the situation is that which you read on TL forums NaNiWa told coL he wants to get sold, they werent the ones initiating it. I like how you just make up random stuff when you havent watched the interview or read about it. Also iNcontroL wouldnt be worth more to EG than Naniwa if it wasnt for the fact that he's some sort of mini-coach for the team. If you look at his appearances and results alone Naniwa would be worth so much more. I'd be very surprised if naniwa makes more money than incontrol. He might be a million times the better player, but Incontrol's media committments and brand recognition would be worth $$$. When you watch the EG house tour, Idra's not the one with the massive pimped out bedroom. How does the amount of pointless items you have reflect how much money you earn? I know a billionaire (yes billionaire) who rolls around in a rusty car from 1995 and wears old clothes, never spends money on anything except business, yet he has a ridiculous amount. When you're staying in a house paid for by your pro-gamer team, and your room is twice as big as your star player's room while other players are sharing tiny rooms, I think that speaks for itself as to his deal with EG.
Are you dense? He has a bigger room because he shares it with Anna and she needs the room for the other stuff that she does. You think EG would put either of them in the position of putting Anna in a room by herself while her boyfriend is in the same house? Or put them in the position where Anna is sharing a room with another EG member? Take Anna out of the picture and Incontrol is in the same room as anyone else. Wow man think...
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On December 10 2011 09:09 Kfcnoob wrote:
i c,
complexity was all about maximizing their advertising, but didn't care about of how mediocre their players were(in nani's opinion)
instead praising a more popular player, naniwa wanted to join a team that emphasized being a more talented player.
It's encouraging to see that Nani has the presence of mind to identify this difference in values and rectify the situation.
Good for him.
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On December 10 2011 21:25 Ninjahoe wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 20:56 dignitas.merz wrote:On December 10 2011 20:25 resilve wrote:
Naniwa is exactly the kind of player that needs to be supported by the fans.What matters in this game is how good you are at starcraft2, not how good you are at blogging or replying to forum posts.
A true champion will often look heartless and cuthroat when he makes moves that are for the good of his career, and it is right that he should do so. This is wrong though. Of course skill and results should always speak the highest, but players need to realize there's more to being a professional gamer than just playing the game. Your skill alone got you to where you are now, and it's not like you will fall off the map because you help out your sponsors, your team, by doing different sponsor events and such. Just look at IdrA. He's still one of the best Zergs outside of korea and he's still putting up results, yet he streams, he even acts in commercials. If you look at any other sport this is true there as well. You see the top sportstars doing promotional videos and commercials for their sponsors, because in the end, they are the ones writing your checks. It should be a mutual cooperation where your team helps you out i.e sends you to events, pays you a salary, and you help them out by helping out with sponsor stuff, doing PR things for your team etc. Saying "Well I''ll simply play and you'll get exposure whenever I go to events I guess" doesn't nearly make their investment worth it, and this goes for any player. Actually you are way off target. Do you really think every pro soccer player is mr niceguy, doing promotions allt the time? Nope, and if they do any, they get massively paid. Many pro soccer players don't even do interviews. Ever. I think your comment is just a case of "the mascot" still being a sad panda 
No I'm not way off target and where did I stay ever pro soccer player is mr niceguy, and why do you feel the need taking cheap shots at me when my situation is not even compareable to Naniwas in any way?
I stated the "top sportstars" =/= every pro soccer player. Just like in SC2, there are the selected few that really are superstars while the rest are considered as only "good" and decent (Usually due to the fact that the super stars are the most skilled and have the highest results). I'm not saying people like CatZ or iNcoNtroL should get more recongnition than someone like Naniwa, what I'm trying to say is you can't go into professional gaming thinking you should only have to play the game and that is that. There is a lot more to it, and I pointed at IdrA as an example of someone who's both one of the most feared progamers outside of korea, and someone who works closely with his team & sponsors.
Of course they get massively paid, that's why they do it. A lot of SC2 players fail to realize this correlation though. The closer you work with sponsors & your team = better likehood of you getting more money.
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On December 11 2011 00:09 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:46 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 22:41 Sneakyz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:25 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 21:22 thirnaz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:18 MepHiii wrote:On December 10 2011 19:45 NKsc2 wrote:On December 10 2011 19:21 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 18:47 turdburgler wrote:On December 10 2011 18:19 ceaRshaf wrote:
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Love this kind of comments.
And if quantic let's go naniwa then what? Quantic thinks that they can make money out of him. I hope they can so that everybody is happy, but the reason still stands. Naniwa is a difficult person for a manager.
if they let him go then you will of been proven right. but what if they dont? what if eg kick idra ? what if col disbands? random what if questions that you have no basis for. What reason do I have for thinking EG will kick idra? Or that COL disbands? None. But what reasons do I have for Naniwa to change his team again? His past. Btw, not saying that he will, just telling you that thinking the possibility is not far fetched. What does incontrol have to do with this? Incontrol is a whole different deal, he is constantly doing commercials, retweeting for their sponsors, participating in SOTG and he is reperesenting EG really well by being a loved by the community. He isn't that good at starcraft (in pro standards), but that doesn't matter. I bet you that even if he got his fingers chopped off EG wouldn't kick him. They do not keep incontrol in their team because they think he'll win tournaments, I can promise you that. We were comparing Catz vs. Naniwa, Streaming low NA GM for 3,000 viewers vs. winning a fucking MLG infront of 300,000 people in a sponsor-drowned teamshirt. Stay ontopic now I feel like I am talking to a 3 year old, that can't focus on a discussion. That was the whole point dude. You claimed that him being so good at starcraft and placing high must be that important to a company. And I brought up Incontrol, the exact opposite of Naniwa. Talking to this forum sometimes feels like being in a kindergarten. Ok fine let's compare with incontrol. Here's a quote of what you said: In the eyes of a company Naniwa is a waste of money. He doesn't care about fans or sponsors, only about the game and there is no money to be earned with him. Incontrol is worth more for a company than naniwa is? I can bet you my life that naniwa gets payed higher tho. To any company outside of complexity, he's definetly worth more than Catz. You're so out of touch with reality. you, sir, are actually wrong. you don't realise the whole story, else why do you think are naniwa's teams actively trying to get rid of him i'm pretty sure if you asked a hypothetical team that has worked with both incontrol/catz and naniwa, who they would like to pick up, it won't be naniwa they will be shooting for. don't bet your life when all you know about the situation is that which you read on TL forums NaNiWa told coL he wants to get sold, they werent the ones initiating it. I like how you just make up random stuff when you havent watched the interview or read about it. Also iNcontroL wouldnt be worth more to EG than Naniwa if it wasnt for the fact that he's some sort of mini-coach for the team. If you look at his appearances and results alone Naniwa would be worth so much more. I'd be very surprised if naniwa makes more money than incontrol. He might be a million times the better player, but Incontrol's media committments and brand recognition would be worth $$$. When you watch the EG house tour, Idra's not the one with the massive pimped out bedroom. How does the amount of pointless items you have reflect how much money you earn? I know a billionaire (yes billionaire) who rolls around in a rusty car from 1995 and wears old clothes, never spends money on anything except business, yet he has a ridiculous amount. When you're staying in a house paid for by your pro-gamer team, and your room is twice as big as your star player's room while other players are sharing tiny rooms, I think that speaks for itself as to his deal with EG. Are you dense? He has a bigger room because he shares it with Anna and she needs the room for the other stuff that she does. You think EG would put either of them in the position of putting Anna in a room by herself while her boyfriend is in the same house? Or put them in the position where Anna is sharing a room with another EG member? Take Anna out of the picture and Incontrol is in the same room as anyone else. Wow man think... I'm guessing you didn't actually watch the video. Also it is just one of the more obvious pointers to the fact that incontrol makes a lot of money compared to a lot of other pro gamers, if you actually follow him and EG in general there's been a lot of comments indicating this.
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On December 11 2011 00:04 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:49 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 23:39 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 23:05 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 22:35 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 22:10 Mstring wrote:On December 10 2011 22:07 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 21:59 Mstring wrote:
Is this real life?
Carry on lads.
Fake edit: Go nani! >.> Hey big boy, thx for your insight! My insight would go right over your head. I'd rather just enjoy the show. Regards, Big boy Not surprising to see that someone who thinks he's the bee's knees would also thinks his insight is flying. You must be a student in psychology cause every post of yours yells "I can read your mind". You must be a student in sociology cause you can read my occupation in my posts, yet a terrible one since you confused psychology with telepathy. Student in telepathy? Awesome! Anyway, your reading on that dude was so off and it was clear what he was trying to say, but I guess not clear enough for you. Between the two you chose the absurd, I would like to congratulate you back but my tongue would suffer the taste of bitterness. Let me phrase it again instead: to read someone's mind doesn't belong to the field of psychology, and thus not what you can learn when studying psychology. Talking about being off, your whole speech is.
You do know I was sarcastic right?
Anyway, keep walking.
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Naniwa looking good! Lot less like a potential serial killer and hes becoming less and less awkward. I like him
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On December 10 2011 23:33 Pudge_172 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:24 danteafk wrote:
naniwa got so skinny in korea.
frightening. He looks healthy and well rested to me......
yep he looked fat prior to that.
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On December 11 2011 00:11 joshboy42 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 00:09 Hrrrrm wrote:On December 10 2011 23:46 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 22:41 Sneakyz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:25 joshboy42 wrote:On December 10 2011 21:22 thirnaz wrote:On December 10 2011 21:18 MepHiii wrote:On December 10 2011 19:45 NKsc2 wrote:On December 10 2011 19:21 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 18:47 turdburgler wrote:
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if they let him go then you will of been proven right. but what if they dont? what if eg kick idra ? what if col disbands? random what if questions that you have no basis for. What reason do I have for thinking EG will kick idra? Or that COL disbands? None. But what reasons do I have for Naniwa to change his team again? His past. Btw, not saying that he will, just telling you that thinking the possibility is not far fetched. What does incontrol have to do with this? Incontrol is a whole different deal, he is constantly doing commercials, retweeting for their sponsors, participating in SOTG and he is reperesenting EG really well by being a loved by the community. He isn't that good at starcraft (in pro standards), but that doesn't matter. I bet you that even if he got his fingers chopped off EG wouldn't kick him. They do not keep incontrol in their team because they think he'll win tournaments, I can promise you that. We were comparing Catz vs. Naniwa, Streaming low NA GM for 3,000 viewers vs. winning a fucking MLG infront of 300,000 people in a sponsor-drowned teamshirt. Stay ontopic now I feel like I am talking to a 3 year old, that can't focus on a discussion. That was the whole point dude. You claimed that him being so good at starcraft and placing high must be that important to a company. And I brought up Incontrol, the exact opposite of Naniwa. Talking to this forum sometimes feels like being in a kindergarten. Ok fine let's compare with incontrol. Here's a quote of what you said: In the eyes of a company Naniwa is a waste of money. He doesn't care about fans or sponsors, only about the game and there is no money to be earned with him. Incontrol is worth more for a company than naniwa is? I can bet you my life that naniwa gets payed higher tho. To any company outside of complexity, he's definetly worth more than Catz. You're so out of touch with reality. you, sir, are actually wrong. you don't realise the whole story, else why do you think are naniwa's teams actively trying to get rid of him i'm pretty sure if you asked a hypothetical team that has worked with both incontrol/catz and naniwa, who they would like to pick up, it won't be naniwa they will be shooting for. don't bet your life when all you know about the situation is that which you read on TL forums NaNiWa told coL he wants to get sold, they werent the ones initiating it. I like how you just make up random stuff when you havent watched the interview or read about it. Also iNcontroL wouldnt be worth more to EG than Naniwa if it wasnt for the fact that he's some sort of mini-coach for the team. If you look at his appearances and results alone Naniwa would be worth so much more. I'd be very surprised if naniwa makes more money than incontrol. He might be a million times the better player, but Incontrol's media committments and brand recognition would be worth $$$. When you watch the EG house tour, Idra's not the one with the massive pimped out bedroom. How does the amount of pointless items you have reflect how much money you earn? I know a billionaire (yes billionaire) who rolls around in a rusty car from 1995 and wears old clothes, never spends money on anything except business, yet he has a ridiculous amount. When you're staying in a house paid for by your pro-gamer team, and your room is twice as big as your star player's room while other players are sharing tiny rooms, I think that speaks for itself as to his deal with EG. Are you dense? He has a bigger room because he shares it with Anna and she needs the room for the other stuff that she does. You think EG would put either of them in the position of putting Anna in a room by herself while her boyfriend is in the same house? Or put them in the position where Anna is sharing a room with another EG member? Take Anna out of the picture and Incontrol is in the same room as anyone else. Wow man think... I'm guessing you didn't actually watch the video. Also it is just one of the more obvious pointers to the fact that incontrol makes a lot of money compared to a lot of other pro gamers, if you actually follow him and EG in general there's been a lot of comments indicating this.
No there hasn't? Rather the opposit. When HuK's salary was a hot topic, Incontrol said that he doesn't get payed as much as idra, but it doesnt bother him because he knows that he doesn't deserve to be payed as much as idra. What did you see that indicated that Incontrol would be payed more?
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On December 11 2011 00:11 dignitas.merz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 21:25 Ninjahoe wrote:On December 10 2011 20:56 dignitas.merz wrote:On December 10 2011 20:25 resilve wrote:
Naniwa is exactly the kind of player that needs to be supported by the fans.What matters in this game is how good you are at starcraft2, not how good you are at blogging or replying to forum posts.
A true champion will often look heartless and cuthroat when he makes moves that are for the good of his career, and it is right that he should do so. This is wrong though. Of course skill and results should always speak the highest, but players need to realize there's more to being a professional gamer than just playing the game. Your skill alone got you to where you are now, and it's not like you will fall off the map because you help out your sponsors, your team, by doing different sponsor events and such. Just look at IdrA. He's still one of the best Zergs outside of korea and he's still putting up results, yet he streams, he even acts in commercials. If you look at any other sport this is true there as well. You see the top sportstars doing promotional videos and commercials for their sponsors, because in the end, they are the ones writing your checks. It should be a mutual cooperation where your team helps you out i.e sends you to events, pays you a salary, and you help them out by helping out with sponsor stuff, doing PR things for your team etc. Saying "Well I''ll simply play and you'll get exposure whenever I go to events I guess" doesn't nearly make their investment worth it, and this goes for any player. Actually you are way off target. Do you really think every pro soccer player is mr niceguy, doing promotions allt the time? Nope, and if they do any, they get massively paid. Many pro soccer players don't even do interviews. Ever. I think your comment is just a case of "the mascot" still being a sad panda No I'm not way off target and where did I stay ever pro soccer player is mr niceguy, and why do you feel the need taking cheap shots at me when my situation is not even compareable to Naniwas in any way? I stated the "top sportstars" =/= every pro soccer player. Just like in SC2, there are the selected few that really are superstars while the rest are considered as only "good" and decent (Usually due to the fact that the super stars are the most skilled and have the highest results). I'm not saying people like CatZ or iNcoNtroL should get more recongnition than someone like Naniwa, what I'm trying to say is you can't go into professional gaming thinking you should only have to play the game and that is that. There is a lot more to it, and I pointed at IdrA as an example of someone who's both one of the most feared progamers outside of korea, and someone who works closely with his team & sponsors. Of course they get massively paid, that's why they do it. A lot of SC2 players fail to realize this correlation though. The closer you work with sponsors & your team = better likehood of you getting more money.
Obviously i meant soccer superstars, my bad.
You took the comparison to real sports, and i entered the discussion. The matter of fact is there is lots of soccer superstars, and many of them don't even do interviews.
Take Zlatan for example.
He does interviews, but is he always nice to the reporters?
I would definitly say that Zlatan is really BM, however, he is still a superstar, and he is loved by so many people. When ever he makes something questionable it's forgotten the next day.
Conclusion: Being a bit BM doesn't make you ineligible of being a superstar.
I don't question that being a good guy for the sponsors sake etc is a bad thing, i too would try and make it as good as possible for my team sponsors.
This doesn't mean that one should need to be a thousand times better player just to be on even terms with this "friendlier guy".
Get it?
And regarding me pulling cheap shots. First of all, I'd say you are looking to pull cheap shots on your former team mate, by "teaching him a lesson", as it looks from your former posts in this thread.
And it wouldn't be a cheap shot unless you felt it was true yourself.
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On December 11 2011 00:49 monx wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:33 Pudge_172 wrote:On December 10 2011 23:24 danteafk wrote:
naniwa got so skinny in korea.
frightening. He looks healthy and well rested to me...... yep he looked fat prior to that.
You're probably unhealthily skinny if you found him fat.
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Judging by the amount of Reddit and TL threads dedicated to Naniwa in the last month, I'd say his "exposure" value is starting to catch up with his "skilled player" value. Now he only needs to win Code S and do another TL Attack with Thorzain and he will be the most valuable player in the world!
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I'll always be a fan of naniwa, I love his dedication and he seems to have good intentions even though it doesn't come out exactly the way he wanted to. Dunno why people are hating. Maybe you have to be swedish to not be offended by his actions or smth. NANIWA FIGHTING <3
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On December 10 2011 23:39 Hydroxyl wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 23:05 ceaRshaf wrote:On December 10 2011 22:35 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 22:10 Mstring wrote:On December 10 2011 22:07 Hydroxyl wrote:On December 10 2011 21:59 Mstring wrote:
Is this real life?
Carry on lads.
Fake edit: Go nani! >.> Hey big boy, thx for your insight! My insight would go right over your head. I'd rather just enjoy the show. Regards, Big boy Not surprising to see that someone who thinks he's the bee's knees would also thinks his insight is flying. You must be a student in psychology cause every post of yours yells "I can read your mind". You must be a student in sociology cause you can read my occupation in my posts, yet a terrible one since you confused psychology with telepathy.
1. Sociology is the study of groups, not occupations.
2. Again, he is correct because either telepathy or psychology would be correct in that case.
3. If you attempt to make other people look stupid it is best to at least use accurate statements when doing so.
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