EPTLarva Inject Timer (Software) - Page 13
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Sluggy
United States128 Posts
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Aeris130
Sweden14 Posts
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IGotPlayguuu
Italy660 Posts
On November 17 2011 22:58 Aeris130 wrote: I hope none of the players crying "cheating!" talks in skype or similar programs when playing team games. In-game chat only, guys. Actually there's a vocal chat also incorporated in bnet, so the case is kinda different... | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
On November 17 2011 22:58 Aeris130 wrote: I hope none of the players crying "cheating!" talks in skype or similar programs when playing team games. In-game chat only, guys. I dont think anyone cares about team games anyway | ||
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pileopoop
Canada317 Posts
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paschl
Germany666 Posts
On November 17 2011 22:08 n0ise wrote: If there's a certain *whatever* (granting you an advantage) that is clearly not prohibited, then yes, it's not cheating. Such is the nature of competition. People are going to do whatever it takes to get ahead. And obviously, if it's something abusive that was looked over, admins will take notice and reevaluate their rules. Extrapolating to this discussion, since this is a 20 lines program that interacts with the game as much as your MSN messenger (as in, not at all), you can't label it as a "hack". And that's where the unfriendly tone in my earlier post came from - trying to explain a simple, simple concept to someone that just refuses to understand it does create some frustration. It's all chemistry, I guess. The only implication that is worth discussing about this is in a tournament setting - however, I think this is a moot point, since I'm sure 99% of high-level zergs would find this more annoying than helpful. i understand your point i just have a different oppinion on it. imo there should be some sort of moral responsibility on the players side (and yeah i know that sounds stupid). j4f ive sent a support to blizzard asking about it. this is what they responded: Vielen Dank für Ihre Anfrage. Solange Programme nicht aktiv in Starcraft eingreifen kann man diese benutzen. Wenn es nebenher läuft als Stopuhr ist das nicht verboten. which translates to: "As long as a tool doesnt directly interact with sc2 its legal." still i myself wouldnt use it. | ||
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muzzy
United States640 Posts
Personally, I don't think I'll use it because I don't want to handicap myself and become too reliant on the timer, and also, my injects aren't that bad anyhow. I could see this being really useful for newer players though who need to get in the habit of injecting. It's not tied into the game at all, it doesn't do any actions for you, so it's not cheating. I remember when the ingame timer came out and so many people freaked and said that it was basically a cheat and should be disabled, bla bla bla. Now everyone uses it and it doesn't matter. | ||
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ASTARA.VOJ
New Zealand49 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On November 18 2011 06:55 PhilipScrewdriver wrote: I think since Blizzard gives you a note saying that your larva has popped, this just makes it more noticeable, therefore not cheating. Exactly what I said like10 pages ago. | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
It ain't cheating. | ||
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Stropheum
United States1124 Posts
On November 17 2011 11:48 idiotech wrote: It just a tool to help people learn  How does giving someone a crutch help them learn? It'll help them perform better while using it but will make them worse in the long run. Once the external reminder is gone they'll be even worse at injecting than they were before Nice effort but this program is an awful idea and nobody should use it if they actually want to improve. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
On November 18 2011 07:10 Stropheum wrote: How does giving someone a crutch help them learn? It'll help them perform better while using it but will make them worse in the long run. Once the external reminder is gone they'll be even worse at injecting than they were before Nice effort but this program is an awful idea and nobody should use it if they actually want to improve. They could just always use it. Not like people who need this will be playing in tournaments. | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On November 18 2011 07:17 scudst0rm wrote: How is it any different to listening to music while playing? I find very rhythmic music helps my game play because it helps enforce repetition in my macro. Is this not equivalent to listening to a specifically tailored song? Most genres of music I listen to while playing zerg have a beat that I can correlate to inject timing. To all those who think this is cheating: WAHHHHH! If anything, using it for maybe a few days will inevitably build the inject mechanic into your play. This is no different than someone telling you to inject, when to spread creep, etc that you could do simply by recording your voice and playing that MP3 during laddering. Anyone who actually is going to compete isn't going to use this and it should be used as a LEARNING device. It does not violate the ToS, but it does seem to bring out all the people who whine that it is unfair. If it's software, people will rage. If it's music or a device sitting by your computer performing the exact same function, people don't care. It doesn't give you an unfair advantage simply because the timer in no way modifies the ability of larva inject to benefit you over the opponent. You could argue that it makes one player more likely to inject, but you might as well just blow hot air as both players have to eventually learn to inject. I'd rather be the player with the tool. If I couldn't use the tool, I'd train with a metronome or similar device. To Stropheum: If you repeat an action so much under the aid of a training device, do you honestly think the user of said device is going to get WORSE at the repeated activity? From my personal experience, I can honestly state that my injects were better upon using a similar method of remembering to inject because it would force me to work it into my mechanical rhythm while playing the game. Nobody should listen to Stropheum if they actually want to improve. They should try it for themselves and come to their own conclusions. | ||
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DaCheF
United States305 Posts
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Spuick
Norway357 Posts
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On November 18 2011 07:30 Spuick wrote: I don't like this. lets not make it easier for people to play -_- Then don't use it. | ||
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nohbrows
United States653 Posts
On November 18 2011 07:25 DaCheF wrote: Can you make one for mac users? I second that request. Yeah this isn't really cheating at all. Musicians use a metronome during practice all the time. Why can't we do the same. | ||
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