EPTHow to Earn a League Promotion - Page 8
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Anabolic-MDF
Canada15 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
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Arco
United States2090 Posts
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
On November 16 2011 08:46 BluePanther wrote: That can't be right... i'm like 270 for diamond R4's, adding 200 would give me 470? That would mean someone at the top of their division would have to go +360 to get a promotion? That seems a little extreme, a 35+ game differential to get promoted.... oct 25-dec 13 is 49 days x 24 hours= 365 bonus points for the entire season. Oct 25-Nov 15th is (21x24x60)/193=156 points. You have 270 points which means that you have approximately +11 wins (this isn't approximate and tbh can't be relied on because the point differences between each win and loss). How is your win rate btw? The catch to this is that if you keep on winning eventually it will match you with people that give you 24 points (they are favored) per win. Edit: didn't do the full math above. 49*24=1176*60=70560/193=365 | ||
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LlamaNamedOsama
United States1900 Posts
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Ktk
Korea (South)753 Posts
Bonus pool, marvelous thing. Getting promoted so much work lol but 900 pts seems more than doable .-. what if you have a 60% wr you'll get promoted in no time? | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:45 KiF1rE wrote: 1400 is a joke for near grandmaster.... that means at 1600 or so i should have been promoted instead of sitting in master still... 1600 is what you had Last Season in masters probably more longer Season = More Bonus Pool Points. So that's why the Number for GM is Lower For these Newer Seasons. I looked at SC2 Ranks and the highest Ranked Masters are like 1000-1100 so your Points are impossible in Masters this Season. That was your points Last Season probably. | ||
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Azzur
Australia6260 Posts
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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luck_star21
United States264 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On November 16 2011 13:32 luck_star21 wrote: 900 for diamond to masters seems a little weird.. i have friends in the 300s who are playing masters already with no more bonus pool that's not including division tiers and bonus pool over the next few weeks | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On November 16 2011 13:32 luck_star21 wrote: 900 for diamond to masters seems a little weird.. i have friends in the 300s who are playing masters already with no more bonus pool That's 900 by the end of the season. It's also an approximate estimate of what it takes to make Masters. Win streaks can speed up the process. For an extreme example. If you're in Diamond and you win 20 straight games to start the season, you'll only have about 300 points, but your MMR will spike such that the system is likely to promote you. Also note that your 300 points after 20 games is much much higher than the average, which is probably in the 150-200 range after 20 games in the upper 3rd of diamond. If you're 60-40 after 3 days of grinding ladder, you'll still have about 300 points, but your MMR won't spike because the losses will drop your MMR. Your 60-40 would be the equivalent of going 12-8 in your first 20 games to start the season. Heck, 60-40 just a few days in might even have you on the border between diamond and masters... I'm just laying out arbitrary examples to illustrate a point. If near the end of the season you have a record of 300-200. You would have about 1000-1300 points, and very likely to get promoted. That's a 60% win rate, and I believe the system will promote on gaps as small as 55% at 275-225 you could even be battling for a spot in masters. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10356 Posts
On November 16 2011 12:57 XRaDiiX wrote: 1600 is what you had Last Season in masters probably more longer Season = More Bonus Pool Points. So that's why the Number for GM is Lower For these Newer Seasons. I looked at SC2 Ranks and the highest Ranked Masters are like 1000-1100 so your Points are impossible in Masters this Season. That was your points Last Season probably. Yup, KiF1rE you would have needed about 1850 points to promote to GM, since 1400 + (4weeks * 90points) = 1760 | ||
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
On November 16 2011 13:56 Nemireck wrote: That's 900 by the end of the season. It's also an approximate estimate of what it takes to make Masters. Win streaks can speed up the process. For an extreme example. If you're in Diamond and you win 20 straight games to start the season, you'll only have about 300 points, but your MMR will spike such that the system is likely to promote you. Also note that your 300 points after 20 games is much much higher than the average, which is probably in the 150-200 range after 20 games in the upper 3rd of diamond. If you're 60-40 after 3 days of grinding ladder, you'll still have about 300 points, but your MMR won't spike because the losses will drop your MMR. Your 60-40 would be the equivalent of going 12-8 in your first 20 games to start the season. Heck, 60-40 just a few days in might even have you on the border between diamond and masters... I'm just laying out arbitrary examples to illustrate a point. If near the end of the season you have a record of 300-200. You would have about 1000-1300 points, and very likely to get promoted. That's a 60% win rate, and I believe the system will promote on gaps as small as 55% at 275-225 you could even be battling for a spot in masters. I started the season with my alt account at the bottome of diamond and I have just about a 65% win ratio and I am now playing high diamond and 300 point masters players consistently. There is quite a it of info to glean from this post and excaliur is on the right path. Hopefully before too long we will know exactly how the MMR and ladder works. | ||
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Yoshi Kirishima
United States10356 Posts
On November 16 2011 14:54 ixi.genocide wrote: I started the season with my alt account at the bottome of diamond and I have just about a 65% win ratio and I am now playing high diamond and 300 point masters players consistently. There is quite a it of info to glean from this post and excaliur is on the right path. Hopefully before too long we will know exactly how the MMR and ladder works. I think we've already figured it all out o.o have you checked out the comprehensive guide to the ladder? | ||
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Nemireck
Canada1875 Posts
On November 16 2011 14:54 ixi.genocide wrote: I started the season with my alt account at the bottome of diamond and I have just about a 65% win ratio and I am now playing high diamond and 300 point masters players consistently. There is quite a it of info to glean from this post and excaliur is on the right path. Hopefully before too long we will know exactly how the MMR and ladder works. Ya I think you're backing up my thoughts. At a 65% win rate (I'm interested in the win/loss count if you can dig that up) you're bordering on Masters already. If you had won 20 games in a row to start the season, you might already be in Masters. | ||
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
On November 16 2011 15:21 Nemireck wrote: Ya I think you're backing up my thoughts. At a 65% win rate (I'm interested in the win/loss count if you can dig that up) you're bordering on Masters already. If you had won 20 games in a row to start the season, you might already be in Masters. I am backing up what you are saying. I have won 68 out of the last 100 games. I didn't win 20 straight but my first 20 games were like 14-6 or something like that. | ||
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prowala
United States147 Posts
I am plat 1v1. I have 312 points this season. Seems as though my goal is 800. Now, if I have to factor in Bonus Pool, I'm going to use Excal's number = 365. So I need to earn=(Goal)-(BP accrued till end of season)-(Points accrued so far.) (800)-(365)-(312)= 123! Yay, that's not that bad! However, if the chart corrects for Bonus Pool accrued, it's just (800)-(365)= 435... oh hell. Help please? EDIT: I think we all realize you just have to get better to get promoted, regardless of having a clear number to strive for or not. We're not idiots. I just like having a goal that is very tangible. These numbers have sort of assuaged my fears of being stuck in Platinum forever. | ||
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samurai80
Japan4225 Posts
I just feel like having quite the level to be in silver in 1v1 for at least 2 seasons (I'm already in other leagues), though I still have to stay in bronze. I began to write down my results cos I really felt like having much more wins that losses. And indeed I have exactly 14 wins v 10 losses for the beginning of season 4. And I think it was not so different last season. wtf !? I think points also depends on how many bonus points (earned when u don't play) you have remaining. You need to play every day not too much (or vary between 1v1 2v2 4v4 etc...) if you want to make the most of these points. | ||
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