EPTHow to Earn a League Promotion - Page 7
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
What about the league "division tiers", discovered months ago? Maybe they just dropped that idea altogether? | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:57 Zephirdd wrote: Not really "revealing", as it's just their predictions; They did confirm however that points influence the MMR. What about the league "division tiers", discovered months ago? Maybe they just dropped that idea altogether? Well not applicable for masters at least! :D No idea about the rest though... maybe that's the unmodified point values. | ||
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Conquerer67
United States605 Posts
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Budzlight
United States578 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:44 optical630 wrote: who wouldda thought you had to PLAY GAMES to get promoted? My thoguhts exactly. If you have to ask how to get promoted your doing it wrong. Glad they released this for those who didnt know you had to win. | ||
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IMoperator
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Qibla
Australia343 Posts
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ixi.genocide
United States981 Posts
Using myself as an example, 623 points + 200=823. 900-823=77/10=7.7 round up to 8. I have to win 8 more games than I lose to hit 900 points by Dec 13. I would like to make sure i am promoted so I will shoot for 18 more games than I lose. Because my current win rate is high and I am facing a lot of Masters players I expect to be promoted if I get my 900 points. | ||
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envisioN .
United States552 Posts
That being said, I think these point values could be much more concise if there was no bonus pool. The bonus pool artificially inflates the number of points on the ladder, making Points deviate a lot from our MMR. Without a bonus pool, we could easily see if we are improving and by how much we are improving. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On November 16 2011 08:41 ixi.genocide wrote: the bonus pool for silver-diamond is 1 point through 193 hours. It is nov 15 in NA so there is 28 days left at (24x28)/3.3 which is 203 or so points. lets just call it 200; So essentially all points for people under masters is 200 less. ie 1200 for bronze, 600 for s-p and 700 for diamond. Now take your current point total and minus that from the points left over. Divide that number by 10 to get an approximate amount of games you have to win more than lose. Using myself as an example, 623 points + 200=823. 900-823=77/10=7.7 round up to 8. I have to win 8 more games than I lose to hit 900 points by Dec 13. I would like to make sure i am promoted so I will shoot for 18 more games than I lose. Because my current win rate is high and I am facing a lot of Masters players I expect to be promoted if I get my 900 points. That can't be right... i'm like 270 for diamond R4's, adding 200 would give me 470? That would mean someone at the top of their division would have to go +360 to get a promotion? That seems a little extreme, a 35+ game differential to get promoted.... | ||
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Theovide
Sweden914 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:28 Elendoil wrote: You guys are doing it wrong: The points Blizz is talking about is not the points that you are having (at least I think). Else their statement that you have to win over 50% of the time for a long period of time wouldn't make sense. If I play 1 game every day my bonuspool is more than enough to gain me a steady income of points if I keep a 50% winrate. So I guess they are talking about other points. Also it would be stupid to need more points to get from Bronze to Silver then from Silver to Gold. Actually, you are doing it wrong. As leagues are now a limited and decided (beforehand) amount of time, IE a decided amount of bonuspool points being given, they can calculate what points is equal to promotion and demotion. Thus it is the points that shows on your profile that they are mentioning, but it's the points you have after using up all your bonus pool at the end of a season. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On November 16 2011 07:57 Zephirdd wrote: Not really "revealing", as it's just their predictions; They did confirm however that points influence the MMR. What about the league "division tiers", discovered months ago? Maybe they just dropped that idea altogether? They have total control over the boundaries and how they map to points, so while those numbers aren't perfect (because individual players' recent game histories will vary somewhat), they're better than a "prediction." As for division tiers, we discussed that a couple pages ago. There's some good info there that I won't repeat here. | ||
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
All this basically says is if you play regularly and spend your bonus pool you will be promoted. In reality that means you are playing enough that you might actually improve. At least it gives somewhat of a goal I guess. | ||
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On November 16 2011 08:45 envisioN . wrote: That being said, I think these point values could be much more concise if there was no bonus pool. The bonus pool artificially inflates the number of points on the ladder, making Points deviate a lot from our MMR. Without a bonus pool, we could easily see if we are improving and by how much we are improving. The bonus pool serves one purpose only, which is to ensure that maintaining one's ladder spot requires continued play. You could argue that continued play shouldn't be necessary to hold one's spot, but a counter-argument is that the MMRs get stale over time without games played, both because the overall population's skill increases with more practice, and because the player who's not playing falls out of practice. | ||
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Share_The_Land
Canada152 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:38 Torte de Lini wrote: So, in translation and less detail: just win lol You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar :D Haha srsly tho truth, but I did get promoted to 2v2 masters once on a loss. Very rare tho from what I've seen and it may have been that my points allowed it. | ||
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Peanutbutter717
United States240 Posts
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rd
United States2586 Posts
On November 16 2011 02:28 FairForever wrote: I'm at 843 points... so at an average of 12 points per day from bonus pool (starting today till Dec 19), that is 35 days * 12 points = 420 points. Damn, only 1263... I'm still short about 140 points to GM So really anyone who is at 980 points or higher right now in NA Masters is playing at a GM level (assuming no bonus pool). We should have a table for when to expect to get demoted. It says near GM. Pretty sure it was 1700~ last season, and that probably wouldn't have guaranteed you a spot. 1400 was around top 1,000 NA masters (not including GM itself). You can do the math from that point, unless the average rating takes a wild skew this season. | ||
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TideRoll
United States106 Posts
I guess the points estimation is somewhat useful... But blah. Just play, get better, and it will all come together naturally. | ||
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tsuxiit
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Lysenko
Iceland2128 Posts
On November 16 2011 09:29 tsuxiit wrote: Isn't this number going to change constantly? Due to bonus pool? The estimate includes an end-of-season bonus pool based on the season ending December 19th. If that date changes, the number will change. | ||
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