EPTIt's a unit not a static defense, it needs to be able to burrow, unburrow and be redeployed or it won't be worth the resource or food cost. I don't think it should be able to burrow on creep though.
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ladyumbra
Canada1699 Posts
It's a unit not a static defense, it needs to be able to burrow, unburrow and be redeployed or it won't be worth the resource or food cost. I don't think it should be able to burrow on creep though. | ||
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Fealthas
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TheLOLas
United States646 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On October 31 2011 02:32 Silky wrote: TAKE OUT THE SHREDDER! Please, it seems to be completely unstoppable. Plus, what if they setup near a hatchery; zerg won't be able to make units without them blowing up. How does it feel now that Terran has the lurker?  | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On October 31 2011 18:08 sluggaslamoo wrote: How does it feel now that Terran has the lurker? I lol'd really . Hmm I assume there are no videos of MVP and NesTea?Also has Blizzard announced an ETA on when the HotS beta will start? | ||
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ETisME
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Warzilla
Czech Republic311 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:41 Yoshi Kirishima wrote: wow shredders massed up haha wow xD Nestea probably not happy about this xD Now that i saw the phobia thread about swarm host and got disturbed by a couple images after watching the video a couple times, I think i have a little phobia. I'm not scared of it though, it's just that it's ugly and (especially after reading a comment) I have an urge to want to cut things like that that are disgusting and have holes in them (especially if they have weird bulges or sacs in the holes...). Argh I want to cut those swarm host now! lol I forgot the thor is a mass unit. Sad to see it doesn't seem to be much bigger and isn't the Odin model? Also, the blinding cloud does dmg too? I think that overlaps with infestor too much . Yay, wish i have never seen that video and post.. Ive never had problems with those things and once i know something like this exists im going through placebo effect... I feel ya bro i feel ya. Otherwise shredder is just a silly thing. I think(hope) it will not get to the final product | ||
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konadora
Singapore66365 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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CrAzzYmr.BC
United States165 Posts
1: That this is the beta and they're just trying fun/interesting units that may not even make it into the game. 2: We unfortunately do not have any vods of this game so we don't know if somebody was telling them what to build or if they were just messing around. I think they were just trying the new units. From what i can tell NesTea was building swarm lords and lings mostly. Even with the Viper reducing range lings would bet owned by battle hellions and the thor. I bet MVP walked in with his army and deployed the shredders and walked out. So we really don't know the weaknesses of the shredder just yet until we see how the other units play against it. | ||
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Daralii
United States16991 Posts
On November 01 2011 03:17 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote: 1: That this is the beta and they're just trying fun/interesting units that may not even make it into the game. Alpha, actually. As a point of reference, WoL's alpha had the Tempest(DT carrier with hardened shields, not the storm launcher), soul hunter, reaver, lurker, super thor, etc. | ||
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CrAzzYmr.BC
United States165 Posts
On November 01 2011 03:22 Daralii wrote: Alpha, actually. As a point of reference, WoL's alpha had the Tempest(DT carrier with hardened shields, not the storm launcher), soul hunter, reaver, lurker, super thor, etc. yes alpha my bad. The point still applies I believe, but that shows they're just trying stuff. They do want a fun game and a good expansion so I think they'll try some crazy things. | ||
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CrY.
Japan97 Posts
Watching a bunch of mediocre units pillow fight with each other because the community whined the potential of a good game away will not grow this game or make it fun to play. It is comparable to BW in this way, as there are counters to each specific "situationally OP" unit..except bw balanced the other units around specific units, instead of raping them until they were just not worth getting. It's the superior way to make a game, unfortunately with the inherent mechanic and AI and UI changes, this might not be possible... But please, don't tell them to nerf things you have no idea about. Sorry but nobody here knows enough about the relationships between units at this very moment to grab their pitchforks and make another blizzard game that could be a worthy predecessor into a girls sleepover party. Stop complaining, it's the reason Dustin is hesitant to do anything outside of the "make lower leagues happy" box. | ||
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iamcaustic
Canada1509 Posts
Chill out people, wait until beta before starting balance discussions.  | ||
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DeltruS
Canada2214 Posts
On November 01 2011 00:59 konadora wrote: is it me or does the viper look like flygon Flygon is my #1 most favorite pokemon of all time. I like the viper model :> | ||
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
The mech battle in the first map looks so messy, like its like random unit compositions in my eyes | ||
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avilo
United States4100 Posts
On November 01 2011 04:06 DreamRaider wrote: shredder denying tumor spread, grabbing watch towers, and killing larva. No doubt that the shredder will have a nerf. The mech battle in the first map looks so messy, like its like random unit compositions in my eyes No shit. Because even the "best" players in the world are just playing a game for the first times with completely new units that even they do not know what is the best thing to use them for yet or which scenarios. People shouldn't base hard opinions on any of the stuff shown/seen yet, we all can only speculate. It's better to give feedback on the design of the unit than thinking something is OP or underpowered, because none of us can know that for sure. Here is the difference on how to give feedback, and how to simply bash on your keyboard with your head and QQ: Constructive feedback on the shredder: It looks like it'll be good for possible map control, but deploy times will prob have to be looked at otherwise it can turn into something that just gets dropped into mineral lines too easily instead of being the unit that's supposed to help provide map control. Maybe instead of being a permanent fixture/unit, they could cost reduce the price and make it have 3 limited bursts (but more damage in burst like mine since it's not forever) to act more like a spider mine than a permanent psi storm. Maybe test it literally being burrowed into the ground as well. Bad feedback / premature balance whining: Shredder looks OP as fuck! Blizzard needs to nerf this. MVP used it in a sample size of one game! U drop this in mineral line it just obliterates everything, they just need to take this out, Terran is going to be too strong. Terran has too much shit, why do they need this, needs to be nerfed. See the difference? First one comments more on the design and functionality of the unit giving possible ideas on how the unit could be tweaked in development. The second one is 95% of the other shredder thread whining out their ass about a unit that has not even hit beta testing. | ||
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galivet
288 Posts
Meanwhile the terran army looks like a junk yard with old cars and refrigerators and stuff piled on top of one another, and flames randomly spewing out from the circumference of the ball. And of course a big haze over the top of the whole mess from the viper's cloud ability. The terran army is basically a giant mobile tire fire. I don't know about game play, but HotS looks uglier than WoL. | ||
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konadora
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Ares[Effort]
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