EPTKT Rolster getting some serious hardware. - Page 8
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Zariel
Australia1285 Posts
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
Fantasy was one of the few SC1 pros that was interested in SC2, but he's so good at SC1 so there's no point in switching to SC2. | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:33 floor exercise wrote: Blizzard can't even be bothered to add clan support or anything into SC2, they aren't going to remake an entire game in a new engine. Generally speaking if your theory involves Blizzard doing anything it's wrong, because they prefer to do the bare minimum post launch nvm, map marketplace was a separate item on the leaked timeline. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:52 Thurokiir wrote: Wow. No i7's? the builds they got are like 600-700 bucks top end. Super cheap stuff. Probs just cleaning up house because no one likes dealing with old comps. i7's are worse than i5's for starcraft 2. Just saying. | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
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Thurokiir
United States779 Posts
That said the 3500 i5 still does a damn good job. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:33 Holcan wrote: Why is this in the sc2 section? So what if KT Rolster got new computers? Its obvious that no Korea team in its right mind would switch over to sc2, when BW still far outweighs the money input, especially in Korea. I mean, Korean teams are looking to international sponsors in sc2, why would an entity switch to such a volatile market? That would easily be the stupidest business move by a esports team, to date. (even counting the MYM, SK Korean arms race controversy of WC3) Lets look at this totally objectively, and ill just jot down some point form to see what a team would think about before switching. - Currently Korean teams are massively under funded - There are very few Korean sponsors associated with SC2 - There is very few tournaments in Korea, and in turn very little prize money (prize is high, distribution is low) - SC2 is internationally based, therefore the costs of running a team rises, as flight, hotel, accommodation all needed to be taken into context, unlike BW, which is centralized in Korea. - There are already teams based on nostalgia to BW, this market is all but closed, Slayers is the most obvious, but oGs is another relevant team with a past in BW (Nada~~~) - SC2 tournament results are volatile because the game is easier than BW. In BW, the best player (or the player with the best strategy and execution) won, in sc2 there is the volatile PvP matchup, ZvZ Matchup, and the fact that mechanics are easier allowing for someone like HuK, IdrA, Stephano, all b teamers or worse in their past games, win championships. I mean, they might switch if BW really is suffering over there, but lets be honest, sc2 in korea isnt a very friendly market. Even if some of your points are good, you never ever watched wc3 did you ? (offtopic I know, but bashing with false information is stupid :>) OT: Why would they switch computer now ? Because sc2 is not a flop at all. There is much more money now, internationally ofc, than in broodwar, so this is a logical move and was expected since the beginning. | ||
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:37 eviltomahawk wrote: I have a feeling that the "Starcraft: Phoenix" in the leaked timeline is just the codename for Blizzard's plans for the map marketplace/Arcade that they've been bragging about a lot. Blizzard did have plans on releasing the Marketplace/Arcade alongside HotS, and Phoenix's release on the leaked timeline does coincide with HotS. Considering how much Blizzard has been hyping its Marketplace/Arcade, it does seem to be enough of a major project to warrant a codename. On the timeline there's a BNet Map Market & BNet 3rd Parties listed so yeah. | ||
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
"It's so easy to use Bio! All I have to do is 1a" | ||
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:37 eviltomahawk wrote: I have a feeling that the "Starcraft: Phoenix" in the leaked timeline is just the codename for Blizzard's plans for the map marketplace/Arcade that they've been bragging about a lot. Blizzard did have plans on releasing the Marketplace/Arcade alongside HotS, and Phoenix's release on the leaked timeline does coincide with HotS. Considering how much Blizzard has been hyping its Marketplace/Arcade, it does seem to be enough of a major project to warrant a codename. Wrong, the marketplace / arcade is listed separately without a codeword. I'm about 80% sure this is SC2:BW | ||
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PlosionCornu
Italy814 Posts
I mean, bw pros were there at blizzcon, the should've announced that if it really was a bw remake. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:25 lbmaian wrote: Because Kespa is probably considering doing something with SC2 - see all the rumors about SC2 proleague, etc. They already recognize the sustained success of SC2 on an international level, so it doesn't feel too risky to me for BW teams to spawn new exploratory SC2 teams. And cut out the flamebait about SC2 being easier than BW. SC2 is volatile mostly because it's new and still being patched for balance. It has little to do with the perceived difficulty of the game, since despite it being "easy", just like BW, it's evident that no one is even close to the skill ceiling. And thats fine no one is close to the skill ceiling, no one was close to the skill ceiling in sc2. You cannot deny that someone like Stephano who was a mid tier wc3 player, or IdrA who couldnt break CJ Practice Squad, or HuK who was B+ would ever win a championship in their respective games, but here they are...winning..and its not because sc2 is so much harder other RTS games. Its not flame bait, its the truth, and easier game means more volatile results, not volatile results mean an easier game. Also with Korean teams dying, how is it not risky to join a inflated market? Or are we just going to avoid the massive issues that many Korean sc2 teams have regarding money? You can try to justify it one way or another, but the fact of that matter is, if sc2 wasn't as easy as it is, we wouldnt have a massive NA fanbase that supports it. As whether you like to admit it or not, but NA love easy games with shiny graphics. Hence why COD sells millions every release, and millions of bw nostalgia nerds grabbed sc2 the day of release. The realistic view is that SC2 is hands down easier than BW, and it takes a seriously lack in thinking, or experience, to not understand why there will never be a bonjwa in sc2, yet there were eras of bonjwa in BW. On October 25 2011 08:45 Erasme wrote: Even if some of your points are good, you never ever watched wc3 did you ? (offtopic I know, but bashing with false information is stupid :>) OT: Why would they switch computer now ? Because sc2 is not a flop at all. There is much more money now, internationally ofc, than in broodwar, so this is a logical move and was expected since the beginning. Did you ever watch wc3? Because if you did you would probably recognize my name. I managed multiple leagues that Stephano played in, as well as followed the french scene, and Millenium very closely...Thanks for trying to call me out though, I can tell by your France flag that you think Stephano was a class A wc3 player, when in reality he was always behind ToD, even when ToD was retired. And was always behind demuslim, Xyligan, and even near the end of wc3, yAws and many other European human players. Hell even on M he was behind the Koreans, by a massively huge margin. | ||
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ElusoryX
Singapore2047 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:45 setzer wrote: "It's so easy to use Bio! All I have to do is 1a" "Oh my god, there isn't a flying queen in this game!" | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
Edit: I did, and if Stephano was not at the top top, he was able to take off series of the best players in France, even tho he was only 14 and wasn't serious. Btw the last good show from tod was against thooo, and if you think that it was close, then you must have been playing a lot of 4v4. | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:55 OopsOopsBaby wrote: they are just upgrading because ogn is upgrading. And OGN was upgrading ONLY because of SC2. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:44 Thurokiir wrote: Nah, bulldozer tests included i7's against i5's OC'd and UnOc'd. i7's clocked consistently over i5's at all times at some pretty massive differences in power. That said the 3500 i5 still does a damn good job. No. http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/129 | ||
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Shiori
3815 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:57 Erasme wrote: There is a huge flaw in your logic, and it has already been pointed out. If it's so easy, why do we see the same people at the top of tournaments ? You lack in thinking. Pretty funny that you only talked about the players who showed consistency against koreans tho. You forget the millions of others gamers who tried and failed because it was too hard. you fail to understand how good people actually are in BW. we DONT have people bonjwa-ing in sc2. we did in BW. a strong NA player could play flash 100 times and take less than 5 games. a strong NA player could play MVP 100 times and take 10+. that's the difference. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:59 Shiori wrote: you fail to understand how good people actually are in BW. we DONT have people bonjwa-ing in sc2. we did in BW. a strong NA player could play flash 100 times and take less than 5 games. a strong NA player could play MVP 100 times and take 10+. that's the difference. I know how strong are bw players, as I follow both scenes. And I don't think we have bonjwa in sc2 lol. Btw MVP went 98/2 in NA so, yeah sure 10+. Maybe you need to backup your claims ? There is no chance that, lets say Incontrol could take more than 5games against MVP. | ||
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