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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
Thus, I hope that if the BW teams end up opening SC2 divisions, they would consider the possibility of adopting or partnering with an existing SC2 team so that some of these problems could be avoided. Unless it's for Deus Ex, in which case, I never asked for this. | ||
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Trumpet
United States1936 Posts
On October 25 2011 03:00 ptrpb wrote: Deus Ex: HR is a pretty good game. Just sayin' On October 25 2011 07:08 eviltomahawk wrote: Unless it's for Deus Ex, in which case, I never asked for this. looooooooooool But seriously, brb becoming a Deus Ex progamer. | ||
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Panzamelano
Colombia248 Posts
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote: This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers. Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^ well... it may not be official... but it already exists under the name "sc2bw" as a series of custom sc2 maps made to be like bw... everything from the stupid AI to the limited unit and building selection is working properly there but sadly the BW fans that would like it mostly hate sc2 already :/ | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On October 25 2011 03:11 PlosionCornu wrote: Razer is pretty much a big player in korea already, being one of the main sponsors for slayers. The specific choice of intel and nvidia (both slayers and blizzard partners) is pretty revealing too. "baseless conjecture" Are these companies pushing some kind of agenda? I mean, every single piece of hardware comes from companies sponsoring sc2 (even a LG monitor instead of a samsung one..). How many major international hardware companies AREN'T sponsoring SC2 in some way yet? | ||
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GentleDrill
United Kingdom672 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:15 Panzamelano wrote: well... it may not be official... but it already exists under the name "sc2bw" as a series of custom sc2 maps made to be like bw... everything from the stupid AI to the limited unit and building selection is working properly there but sadly the BW fans that would like it mostly hate sc2 already :/ It's not quite as accurate as you make it sound. The unit sizes don't match up accurately with the scale of the terrain, and tricks like Chinese triangle and Patrol micro don't work. | ||
figq
12519 Posts
(eg: some kind of 3d Video conference for communication purposes etc) | ||
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HellionDrop
281 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Lets look at this totally objectively, and ill just jot down some point form to see what a team would think about before switching. - Currently Korean teams are massively under funded - There are very few Korean sponsors associated with SC2 - There is very few tournaments in Korea, and in turn very little prize money (prize is high, distribution is low) - SC2 is internationally based, therefore the costs of running a team rises, as flight, hotel, accommodation all needed to be taken into context, unlike BW, which is centralized in Korea. - There are already teams based on nostalgia to BW, this market is all but closed, Slayers is the most obvious, but oGs is another relevant team with a past in BW (Nada~~~) - SC2 tournament results are volatile because the game is easier than BW. In BW, the best player (or the player with the best strategy and execution) won, in sc2 there is the volatile PvP matchup, ZvZ Matchup, and the fact that mechanics are easier allowing for someone like HuK, IdrA, Stephano, all b teamers or worse in their past games, win championships. I mean, they might switch if BW really is suffering over there, but lets be honest, sc2 in korea isnt a very friendly market. | ||
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Thrill
2599 Posts
PC hardware companies should shower them with pre-built's just to get their brand out. Alienware is one good example that comes to mind, or just components in general. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
I think it's 16. oGs, Prime, ST, TSL, MvP, SlayerS, NSH, IM, FXO, KT, SKT, STX, Khan, Stars, CJ, ACE. Yeah 16. | ||
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unit
United States2621 Posts
On October 25 2011 05:11 VPCursed wrote: low skill ceiling? It's not as if there are 3 people constantly winning GSL, i mean if there was such a low skill ceiling how the fuck could anyone win gsl 3 times in a row? noob just rape them cause no skill put it in context "low skill ceiling AT THE START" | ||
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dgdsg
Germany91 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:33 Holcan wrote: Why is this in the sc2 section? So what if KT Rolster got new computers? Its obvious that no Korea team in its right mind would switch over to sc2, when BW still far outweighs the money input, especially in Korea. I mean, Korean teams are looking to international sponsors in sc2, why would an entity switch to such a volatile market? That would easily be the stupidest business move by a esports team, to date. (even counting the MYM, SK Korean arms race controversy of WC3) Lets look at this totally objectively, and ill just jot down some point form to see what a team would think about before switching. - Currently Korean teams are massively under funded - There are very few Korean sponsors associated with SC2 - There is very few tournaments in Korea, and in turn very little prize money (prize is high, distribution is low) - SC2 is internationally based, therefore the costs of running a team rises, as flight, hotel, accommodation all needed to be taken into context, unlike BW, which is centralized in Korea. - There are already teams based on nostalgia to BW, this market is all but closed, Slayers is the most obvious, but oGs is another relevant team with a past in BW (Nada~~~) - SC2 tournament results are volatile because the game is easier than BW. In BW, the best player (or the player with the best strategy and execution) won, in sc2 there is the volatile PvP matchup, ZvZ Matchup, and the fact that mechanics are easier allowing for someone like HuK, IdrA, Stephano, all b teamers or worse in their past games, win championships. I mean, they might switch if BW really is suffering over there, but lets be honest, sc2 in korea isnt a very friendly market. No one is seriously suggesting that they would be switching, at least not the A-teamers, that's just wishful thinking for funsies. The idea of them setting up a SC2 squad to compliment the BW team is however not so far fetched and not "the stupidest business move by a esports team, to date". LCD wide screens are obviously not meant to be used to play BW on, and with the possibility of a SC2 Proleague 9 or so months from now, it very concievable that they plan to participate in it. | ||
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Moonling
United States987 Posts
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/a/GX79X) http://imgur.com/a/GX79X The Legends playing HOTS | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
I assume that if the thread was in the BW section, the tremendous amount of SC2 talk would make people wonder why it would be in the BW section instead of the SC2 section. | ||
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lbmaian
United States689 Posts
On October 25 2011 07:33 Holcan wrote: Why is this in the sc2 section? So what if KT Rolster got new computers? Its obvious that no Korea team in its right mind would switch over to sc2, when BW still far outweighs the money input, especially in Korea. I mean, Korean teams are looking to international sponsors in sc2, why would an entity switch to such a volatile market? That would easily be the stupidest business move by a esports team, to date. (even counting the MYM, SK Korean arms race controversy of WC3) Lets look at this totally objectively, and ill just jot down some point form to see what a team would think about before switching. - Currently Korean teams are massively under funded - There are very few Korean sponsors associated with SC2 - There is very few tournaments in Korea, and in turn very little prize money (prize is high, distribution is low) - SC2 is internationally based, therefore the costs of running a team rises, as flight, hotel, accommodation all needed to be taken into context, unlike BW, which is centralized in Korea. - There are already teams based on nostalgia to BW, this market is all but closed, Slayers is the most obvious, but oGs is another relevant team with a past in BW (Nada~~~) - SC2 tournament results are volatile because the game is easier than BW. In BW, the best player (or the player with the best strategy and execution) won, in sc2 there is the volatile PvP matchup, ZvZ Matchup, and the fact that mechanics are easier allowing for someone like HuK, IdrA, Stephano, all b teamers or worse in their past games, win championships. I mean, they might switch if BW really is suffering over there, but lets be honest, sc2 in korea isnt a very friendly market. Because Kespa is probably considering doing something with SC2 - see all the rumors about SC2 proleague, etc. They already recognize the sustained success of SC2 on an international level, so it doesn't feel too risky to me for BW teams to spawn new exploratory SC2 teams. And cut out the flamebait about SC2 being easier than BW. SC2 is volatile mostly because it's new and still being patched for balance. It has little to do with the perceived difficulty of the game, since despite it being "easy", just like BW, it's evident that no one is even close to the skill ceiling. | ||
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Dozle
Canada147 Posts
Fantasy looks so intrigued | ||
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Bippzy
United States1466 Posts
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote: This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers. Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^ This is exactly what I posted in the other thread! It must happen! In fact I have to keep myself from watching BW if i can find an english caster....... <3 SC2 but... <3 BW Goes to teamliquid does creepy smiley face C: | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
On October 25 2011 03:07 SeaSwift wrote: This is just my own pondering, but I think that Blizzard is preparing to release an updated graphics BW - an "official" SC2BW, if you like. I remember seeing Starcraft: Phoenix on the estimated timeline sheet of Blizzard and thinking that it sounds likely - after all, how many more foreigner fans would it bring in, being able to watch BW without the crappy graphics? I expect them to keep the retarded AI etc the same, so that it doesn't alienate BW watchers. Not really substantiated by evidence at all, just my hopes ^_^ Blizzard can't even be bothered to add clan support or anything into SC2, they aren't going to remake an entire game in a new engine. Generally speaking if your theory involves Blizzard doing anything it's wrong, because they prefer to do the bare minimum post launch | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
On October 25 2011 08:33 floor exercise wrote: Blizzard can't even be bothered to add clan support or anything into SC2, they aren't going to remake an entire game in a new engine. Generally speaking if your theory involves Blizzard doing anything it's wrong, because they prefer to do the bare minimum post launch Agreed. Plus I don't see blizzard wasting resources on updating bw cause there's no money in it for them and is just a waste of money for them. BW is only relevant in korea and that's it. There's no way a suit would green light a budget for an updated bw. | ||
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