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On October 19 2011 21:31 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 21:30 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:17 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:10 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:06 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:01 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 20:57 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 20:40 k1mjee wrote:
sAviOr and iloveoov to come out of retirement and join EG. Don't think that you're serious, but no team would benefit from obtaining savior, given the fact that he is perma-banned from GOM TV events.. You know what that doesn't include? Just about everything else. I would love for sAviOr to come to foreigner events. I hardly think that that would benefit EG in the long run, he's already past his prime and given the fact that most other Koreans at the events that are actually making a splash are old BW-players sAviOr would definitely not be received with much love... That, and also having to basically "move" in order to attend events would be somewhat too expensive and probably not appreciated by both parts. Boxer is past his prime, Puma doesn't get much love, and Puma would attend the same events. They're already doing it. PuMa never threatened modern BW, and you might be right about BoxeR, but how much success has he actually seen through his SC2-career? BoxeR is alo still credited for being one of the "founders" of modern SC, and whislt sAviOr helped to build himself a legacy of greatness, he risked it instead and was found in of the biggest scandals in e-sports history. that is nothing that events, organizers, and last but not least, other Koreans will turn a blind eye to. Also, most people seem to dislike PuMa due to the fact that he 1/1/1s a lot, and that he also happened to be in a bad spot when he switched teams. Not all too different from CoCa, but really nothing big. So then why shouldn't he compete again? I'm still missing it. He match-fixed, he almost went to fricken jail because of the legality in SKorea, and he's banned by GOM and Kespa. But that's it. Nothing wrong with letting him compete again, and it's not like there wouldn't be a watchdog over his shoulder. In fact, it would be a travesty to just completely disallow one of the greatest players of all time from playing again. PuMa actually got a lot of hate from netizens because of the team switch, his play is a cherry on top. Just wanna add to this, because the SC community has forgiven players in the past for cheating, TT1 comes to mind
I will never understand this, people compare that we have forgiven people for maphacking or something which is still bad, but it is NO WHERE NEAR betting on yourself to lose games (which is illegal in Korea) while being at the time the best player on the planet, Saviour didn't just get him and those other players banned from BW, he almost killed eSports -.-
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sooo. i have to admit that i didnt read the 90 pages. but from what i gathered it seems like almost everything was figured out..?
the fewer men, the greater share of honour
korea
teamhouse
after blizzcon (saint crispins day?)
eg: huk + idra
quantic: destiny + sase
startale: bomber (+ july?)
millenium: stephano (+tod?)
the french are coming
dimaga in there possibly as well?
thats about it?
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On October 19 2011 22:15 ToT)KnowMe( wrote:
sooo. i have to admit that i didnt read the 90 pages. but from what i gathered it seems like almost everything was figured out..?
the fewer men, the greater share of honour
korea
teamhouse
after blizzcon (saint crispins day?)
eg: huk + idra
quantic: destiny + sase
startale: bomber (+ july?)
millenium: stephano (+tod?)
the french are coming
dimaga in there possibly as well?
thats about it?
ToD's not even in Millenium anymore, but he is going to Korea however.
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About saviOr, Luxury et al: if they wanted to remain as progamers, they certainly can compete in or dominate SC2, and I'm sure there's a lot of internationally-based teams that won't mind signing them up.
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On October 19 2011 20:45 Ciraxis wrote:
EG should really stop this. It's really annoying.
I think people like you should really stop this. If you don't find it interesting, ignore it.
EG will announce whatever it is on the 21st or 22nd. If you only care about what it is, then ignore this until that date.
The rest of us find the speculation and the astronomical/biblical/musical clues interesting and fun.
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On October 19 2011 20:45 Ciraxis wrote:
EG should really stop this. It's really annoying.
Yes, because it's not working or anything, they don't have a shitton of people refreshing their page and TL/Reddit threads the size of IdrA' ego when they announce announcements before hand.. oh, wait.
I don't usually do this; but you sir, need to start using your brain.
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On October 19 2011 22:14 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 21:31 Hassybaby wrote:On October 19 2011 21:30 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:17 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:10 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:06 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:01 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 20:57 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 20:40 k1mjee wrote:
sAviOr and iloveoov to come out of retirement and join EG. Don't think that you're serious, but no team would benefit from obtaining savior, given the fact that he is perma-banned from GOM TV events.. You know what that doesn't include? Just about everything else. I would love for sAviOr to come to foreigner events. I hardly think that that would benefit EG in the long run, he's already past his prime and given the fact that most other Koreans at the events that are actually making a splash are old BW-players sAviOr would definitely not be received with much love... That, and also having to basically "move" in order to attend events would be somewhat too expensive and probably not appreciated by both parts. Boxer is past his prime, Puma doesn't get much love, and Puma would attend the same events. They're already doing it. PuMa never threatened modern BW, and you might be right about BoxeR, but how much success has he actually seen through his SC2-career? BoxeR is alo still credited for being one of the "founders" of modern SC, and whislt sAviOr helped to build himself a legacy of greatness, he risked it instead and was found in of the biggest scandals in e-sports history. that is nothing that events, organizers, and last but not least, other Koreans will turn a blind eye to. Also, most people seem to dislike PuMa due to the fact that he 1/1/1s a lot, and that he also happened to be in a bad spot when he switched teams. Not all too different from CoCa, but really nothing big. So then why shouldn't he compete again? I'm still missing it. He match-fixed, he almost went to fricken jail because of the legality in SKorea, and he's banned by GOM and Kespa. But that's it. Nothing wrong with letting him compete again, and it's not like there wouldn't be a watchdog over his shoulder. In fact, it would be a travesty to just completely disallow one of the greatest players of all time from playing again. PuMa actually got a lot of hate from netizens because of the team switch, his play is a cherry on top. Just wanna add to this, because the SC community has forgiven players in the past for cheating, TT1 comes to mind I will never understand this, people compare that we have forgiven people for maphacking or something which is still bad, but it is NO WHERE NEAR betting on yourself to lose games (which is illegal in Korea) while being at the time the best player on the planet, Saviour didn't just get him and those other players banned from BW, he almost killed eSports -.-
TT1, Dimaga etc did same thing, they cheated to earn money. There is no difference. They went mad because of 10 000$ and we can't imagine what would they be prepared for if they could earn 100 000$. So, it is a same thing and Savior deserves second chance, he paid for his act and i hope he will play sc2.
About EG, I hope this thread means they will compete in Korea, it would be great
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This later one has to be DeMuslim going to Korea.
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On October 19 2011 22:13 Hnnngg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:09 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 21:44 metbull wrote:On October 19 2011 21:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Savior went to jail over the match fixing.
He's never playing Pro SC2. Facts that say/show he's never playing Pro SC2? Please produce them. Facts that I aint owner of a purple unicorn and have never kissed your mom. Please produce them. That's silly. He doesn't claim to have those facts. The guy he was quoting claimed he knew that sAviOr will never play competitive SC2. But he doesn't. And the guy you're quoting doesn't know or claim to know if you own a purple unicorn and have never kissed his mom. You probably know.
I know but I just get kinda pissed of at people claming stuff and then instead of proving it they tell you to disprove it. And actualy I think the court sentence had something like *never be able to play competitiv Starcraft in korea again* in it. I might be wrong but I think there was something like that.
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its prob just an EG - QxG gaming house in korea. No surprise really with PUMA HuK Idra and Sase all going to be needed a permanent residence in korea to live at
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This has been pointed out a while back but barely anyone has noticed it, and it isnt in the OP yet, so ill repost it.
It's more related to Quantic Gaming, but seeing that the EG logo is in the Quantic video its most likely related.
if you go to www.quanticgaming.com there's a strange sentence "Third time's the charm" towards the end of the article.
If you look at the source code for that sentence this is what you get:
<p id="thinkkorea">Third time's the charm...</p>
the ID for the paragraph is "thinkkorea", so obviously with the hype video from Destiny, we pretty much already knew this, but i think that this just solidifies that theory.
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On October 19 2011 22:39 purgerinho wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:14 NexUmbra wrote:On October 19 2011 21:31 Hassybaby wrote:On October 19 2011 21:30 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:17 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:10 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:06 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:01 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 20:57 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 20:40 k1mjee wrote:
sAviOr and iloveoov to come out of retirement and join EG. Don't think that you're serious, but no team would benefit from obtaining savior, given the fact that he is perma-banned from GOM TV events.. You know what that doesn't include? Just about everything else. I would love for sAviOr to come to foreigner events. I hardly think that that would benefit EG in the long run, he's already past his prime and given the fact that most other Koreans at the events that are actually making a splash are old BW-players sAviOr would definitely not be received with much love... That, and also having to basically "move" in order to attend events would be somewhat too expensive and probably not appreciated by both parts. Boxer is past his prime, Puma doesn't get much love, and Puma would attend the same events. They're already doing it. PuMa never threatened modern BW, and you might be right about BoxeR, but how much success has he actually seen through his SC2-career? BoxeR is alo still credited for being one of the "founders" of modern SC, and whislt sAviOr helped to build himself a legacy of greatness, he risked it instead and was found in of the biggest scandals in e-sports history. that is nothing that events, organizers, and last but not least, other Koreans will turn a blind eye to. Also, most people seem to dislike PuMa due to the fact that he 1/1/1s a lot, and that he also happened to be in a bad spot when he switched teams. Not all too different from CoCa, but really nothing big. So then why shouldn't he compete again? I'm still missing it. He match-fixed, he almost went to fricken jail because of the legality in SKorea, and he's banned by GOM and Kespa. But that's it. Nothing wrong with letting him compete again, and it's not like there wouldn't be a watchdog over his shoulder. In fact, it would be a travesty to just completely disallow one of the greatest players of all time from playing again. PuMa actually got a lot of hate from netizens because of the team switch, his play is a cherry on top. Just wanna add to this, because the SC community has forgiven players in the past for cheating, TT1 comes to mind I will never understand this, people compare that we have forgiven people for maphacking or something which is still bad, but it is NO WHERE NEAR betting on yourself to lose games (which is illegal in Korea) while being at the time the best player on the planet, Saviour didn't just get him and those other players banned from BW, he almost killed eSports -.- TT1, Dimaga etc did same thing, they cheated to earn money. There is no difference. They went mad because of 10 000$ and we can't imagine what would they be prepared for if they could earn 100 000$. So, it is a same thing and Savior deserves second chance, he paid for his act and i hope he will play sc2. About EG, I hope this thread means they will compete in Korea, it would be great
Savior didn't just "cheat to earn money". He colluded with gangsters to convince several progamers to fix matches, offering them thousands of dollars per rigged game. And on top of receiving big sums to organize such bribes, he decided to pocket some of the money he was supposed to pass to the progamers who deliberately lost those matches.
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On October 19 2011 22:51 TissTuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:13 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 22:09 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 21:44 metbull wrote:On October 19 2011 21:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Savior went to jail over the match fixing.
He's never playing Pro SC2. Facts that say/show he's never playing Pro SC2? Please produce them. Facts that I aint owner of a purple unicorn and have never kissed your mom. Please produce them. That's silly. He doesn't claim to have those facts. The guy he was quoting claimed he knew that sAviOr will never play competitive SC2. But he doesn't. And the guy you're quoting doesn't know or claim to know if you own a purple unicorn and have never kissed his mom. You probably know. I know but I just get kinda pissed of at people claming stuff and then instead of proving it they tell you to disprove it. And actualy I think the court sentence had something like *never be able to play competitiv Starcraft in korea again* in it. I might be wrong but I think there was something like that.
They were banned from professional gaming(and still are) and some faced criminal charges.
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On October 19 2011 22:51 TissTuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:13 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 22:09 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 21:44 metbull wrote:On October 19 2011 21:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Savior went to jail over the match fixing.
He's never playing Pro SC2. Facts that say/show he's never playing Pro SC2? Please produce them. Facts that I aint owner of a purple unicorn and have never kissed your mom. Please produce them. That's silly. He doesn't claim to have those facts. The guy he was quoting claimed he knew that sAviOr will never play competitive SC2. But he doesn't. And the guy you're quoting doesn't know or claim to know if you own a purple unicorn and have never kissed his mom. You probably know. I know but I just get kinda pissed of at people claming stuff and then instead of proving it they tell you to disprove it. And actualy I think the court sentence had something like *never be able to play competitiv Starcraft in korea again* in it. I might be wrong but I think there was something like that.
Starcraft 2 is a different game. I seriously doubt they would include sequels. But what do I know.
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On October 19 2011 22:39 purgerinho wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:14 NexUmbra wrote:On October 19 2011 21:31 Hassybaby wrote:On October 19 2011 21:30 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:17 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:10 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 21:06 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 21:01 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 20:57 KvltMan wrote:On October 19 2011 20:40 k1mjee wrote:
sAviOr and iloveoov to come out of retirement and join EG. Don't think that you're serious, but no team would benefit from obtaining savior, given the fact that he is perma-banned from GOM TV events.. You know what that doesn't include? Just about everything else. I would love for sAviOr to come to foreigner events. I hardly think that that would benefit EG in the long run, he's already past his prime and given the fact that most other Koreans at the events that are actually making a splash are old BW-players sAviOr would definitely not be received with much love... That, and also having to basically "move" in order to attend events would be somewhat too expensive and probably not appreciated by both parts. Boxer is past his prime, Puma doesn't get much love, and Puma would attend the same events. They're already doing it. PuMa never threatened modern BW, and you might be right about BoxeR, but how much success has he actually seen through his SC2-career? BoxeR is alo still credited for being one of the "founders" of modern SC, and whislt sAviOr helped to build himself a legacy of greatness, he risked it instead and was found in of the biggest scandals in e-sports history. that is nothing that events, organizers, and last but not least, other Koreans will turn a blind eye to. Also, most people seem to dislike PuMa due to the fact that he 1/1/1s a lot, and that he also happened to be in a bad spot when he switched teams. Not all too different from CoCa, but really nothing big. So then why shouldn't he compete again? I'm still missing it. He match-fixed, he almost went to fricken jail because of the legality in SKorea, and he's banned by GOM and Kespa. But that's it. Nothing wrong with letting him compete again, and it's not like there wouldn't be a watchdog over his shoulder. In fact, it would be a travesty to just completely disallow one of the greatest players of all time from playing again. PuMa actually got a lot of hate from netizens because of the team switch, his play is a cherry on top. Just wanna add to this, because the SC community has forgiven players in the past for cheating, TT1 comes to mind I will never understand this, people compare that we have forgiven people for maphacking or something which is still bad, but it is NO WHERE NEAR betting on yourself to lose games (which is illegal in Korea) while being at the time the best player on the planet, Saviour didn't just get him and those other players banned from BW, he almost killed eSports -.- TT1, Dimaga etc did same thing, they cheated to earn money. There is no difference. They went mad because of 10 000$ and we can't imagine what would they be prepared for if they could earn 100 000$. So, it is a same thing and Savior deserves second chance, he paid for his act and i hope he will play sc2. About EG, I hope this thread means they will compete in Korea, it would be great
Saviour was the ringleader and got other people into throwing games too, how is that the same thing? Also saviour let down his fans, and fans of the other players he had gotten involved in the scandal.
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On October 19 2011 22:51 TissTuss wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:13 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 22:09 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 21:44 metbull wrote:On October 19 2011 21:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Savior went to jail over the match fixing.
He's never playing Pro SC2. Facts that say/show he's never playing Pro SC2? Please produce them. Facts that I aint owner of a purple unicorn and have never kissed your mom. Please produce them. That's silly. He doesn't claim to have those facts. The guy he was quoting claimed he knew that sAviOr will never play competitive SC2. But he doesn't. And the guy you're quoting doesn't know or claim to know if you own a purple unicorn and have never kissed his mom. You probably know. I know but I just get kinda pissed of at people claming stuff and then instead of proving it they tell you to disprove it. And actualy I think the court sentence had something like *never be able to play competitiv Starcraft in korea again* in it. I might be wrong but I think there was something like that.
GomTV have banned saviour from playing in GSL.
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On October 19 2011 23:03 NexUmbra wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2011 22:51 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 22:13 Hnnngg wrote:On October 19 2011 22:09 TissTuss wrote:On October 19 2011 21:44 metbull wrote:On October 19 2011 21:40 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Savior went to jail over the match fixing.
He's never playing Pro SC2. Facts that say/show he's never playing Pro SC2? Please produce them. Facts that I aint owner of a purple unicorn and have never kissed your mom. Please produce them. That's silly. He doesn't claim to have those facts. The guy he was quoting claimed he knew that sAviOr will never play competitive SC2. But he doesn't. And the guy you're quoting doesn't know or claim to know if you own a purple unicorn and have never kissed his mom. You probably know. I know but I just get kinda pissed of at people claming stuff and then instead of proving it they tell you to disprove it. And actualy I think the court sentence had something like *never be able to play competitiv Starcraft in korea again* in it. I might be wrong but I think there was something like that. GomTV have banned saviour from playing in GSL.
You'd think that people post just to get their post count up... I'm pretty sure this has been posted over and over. 
I really looked up to sAviOur before this and still do. I like gangster shit like this even if it itsn't so gangster haha.
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Guys.... why should they go to Korea? iNcontroL has Anna Prosser, Destiny has a son and IdrA has.... well a groupie...
Any reason why they should go? (Destiny is assuming QxG and EG is merging).
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On October 19 2011 23:20 Gnomie wrote:
Guys.... why should they go to Korea? iNcontroL has Anna Prosser, Destiny has a son and IdrA has.... well a groupie...
Any reason why they should go? (Destiny is assuming QxG and EG is merging).
Because this is their job and it increases their skill?
Destiny has said he is going apparently(if he really has a kid, i wouldn't go but i don't really care), Incontrol and Anna can manage to live without each other for a month or so (already happened once) and Idra's GF lives in Canada anyway, so i guess it doesn't matter that much where Idra lives then?
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Um, who knows what is going to happen we just have to wait till the hype campaign is over kinda and then just wait it out really.
The speculation is like anything we do not know
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