• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 22:37
CET 04:37
KST 12:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT8Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0224LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)45Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker15
StarCraft 2
General
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up SpeCial on The Tasteless Podcast Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game?
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Team League Season 10 PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea Ladder maps - how we can make blizz update them? TvZ is the most complete match up Brood War inspired Terran vs Zerg cinematic – feed Which units you wish saw more use in the game?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Corso Formazione Insegnanti Yoga What Game makes you happy and stress free?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013 2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Search For Meaning in Vi…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2241 users

New Terran Unit in Heart of the Swarm - Page 91

Forum Index > SC2 General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 125 Next
Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
October 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#1801
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
frantic.cactus
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
October 06 2011 04:58 GMT
#1802
Yeah it looks like a subtle way to buff mech play, if it is indeed a transformation for the Hellion.
As it is now Hellion allow T to be aggressive but on the defensive gets eaten up by storm and especially Colossi.
My guess is, when a Hellion transforms it becomes an armoured unit which will 'tank' for the relativly weak Tanks along with having traditional splash damage. Ofc they won't be as effective because they now lack the ability to "line 'em up" but will act as an effective buffer for the Tanks.

Brings more decision making into the game, between aggressive and defensive.

This pleases me because it shows that Bilzz are aware of the relative weakness of Mech compared to Bio in TvP and are attempting to change that without effecting the other matchups

Terran it up since 2007
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 06 2011 05:13 GMT
#1803
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#1804
I hope it's a bio unit that complements mech play quite well, so that Terran players will have an easier transition from bio into mech by having some of their bio upgrades translate in to the late game when they go full mech later.

Maybe a mech medic?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 06 2011 05:16 GMT
#1805
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

You can see tire treads on the filtered images, though.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:21:12
October 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#1806
How is it not obviously a bio-transformed hellion. Someone please explain to me how an armored unit with wheels and the same type of flamethrower as a hellion is not hellion-related. Seriously, if there is something i haven't considered i would like my faith in humanity restored a bit.


If you really don't see that, that honestly gives a good deal of explanation to all the retards who saw that picture of a street light and thought it was a UFO. When you could see the light post.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:32:02
October 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#1807
Many people are forgetting what The Frozen Throne changed in Warcraft 3; not just 2-3 new units to each race, but also minor changes in many pre-existing units and new mechanics (neutrals, almost no gold for creeping, in-base shops other stuff i must have forgotten).

What I mean is:
1) Minor [design] changes to some units would be enough to change the relationship between the units
2) New mechanics could be enough to do the same
3) I have no reason to believe that 1-2 new unit for EACH race is different

Probably we´re having 1, 2 and 3 for HotS, just like in TFT. HotS is supposed to be ALMOST as different from WoL as BW and TFT were different from Vanillas.

So everybody chill. Its nothing like "Terrans will have an extra way to OP". The game may change completely. Terrans could even get underpowered (or under "complete") next to Z and P.


But I MAY be wrong. I think Bowder have shown to be more worried about design flaws than imbalance, which is favorable for major changes; in the other hand, there is the e-sport scene, so they can´t be too adventurous and make all the viewers think "the game is unrecognizable ! the top player we know are not winning anymore!"; so yes, maybe they dont do a "TFT makeover" at all, ...


EDIT: contrast adjustments suggest that those are tires for real
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Shousan
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:41:58
October 06 2011 05:27 GMT
#1808
Please, no more hellion-related things Blizzard.
- A desperate Zerg

It looks like a hellion transformer, which fits with Terran's versatile style, I mean, they can change tech labs, reactors, make vikings ground units, siege mode for tanks... sounds just right to transform hellions as well.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:34:30
October 06 2011 05:32 GMT
#1809
On October 06 2011 13:58 frantic.cactus wrote:
Yeah it looks like a subtle way to buff mech play, if it is indeed a transformation for the Hellion.
As it is now Hellion allow T to be aggressive but on the defensive gets eaten up by storm and especially Colossi.
My guess is, when a Hellion transforms it becomes an armoured unit which will 'tank' for the relativly weak Tanks along with having traditional splash damage. Ofc they won't be as effective because they now lack the ability to "line 'em up" but will act as an effective buffer for the Tanks.

Brings more decision making into the game, between aggressive and defensive.

This pleases me because it shows that Bilzz are aware of the relative weakness of Mech compared to Bio in TvP and are attempting to change that without effecting the other matchups


Yes, but in BW for example it would be absurd to give vultures a tank mode. The CONTRAST and VARIETY of speed and offense/defense within the same battle is what made it exciting. Mech doesn't need another slow beefy tank, they just need to buff the tank that already exists. If anything the hellions should be faster to highten the contrast.
ZorBa.G
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:36:37
October 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#1810
Imagine if Zerg got a superunit like the mothership.

Like instead of casting "vortex" or a nuke... it could cast like an endless hole in the ground for several seconds that would make any opposing units fall through into their grave deaths! Only thing is that when zerg casts this spell, every other zerg ground unit would freeze as they are channeling energy into creating the hole. Also, it would only be limted to cast on creep only.

Now that would be cool!
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
October 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#1811
Seems like a drop down to the gorund version of a Banshee
grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#1812
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.

[image loading]
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#1813
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

I am definitely playing T in the next expac if they were to have unit that shot out bowling balls.
Hello
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
October 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#1814
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.


People are trying to figure out what it most likely is, not what it could conceivably be.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:56:44
October 06 2011 05:54 GMT
#1815
On October 06 2011 14:39 grappasc wrote:
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.



I was thinking about a bio unit too, but after the contrast image I couldnt stop seeing those tires!

[image loading]

You see? TIRES!
[Also, the thing over his head is almost surely a flamethrower, but hardly a healer-thingy. We also totally have one shield, but two? IDK]
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 06 2011 05:57 GMT
#1816
On October 06 2011 14:16 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

You can see tire treads on the filtered images, though.


What? tire treads? Dont be dumb, cant you see he has a lot of imagination?
I mean clearly those are something purely cosmetic such as a basket of ammo or a bowling ball
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 06 2011 05:59 GMT
#1817
On October 06 2011 14:54 nerak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 14:39 grappasc wrote:
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.



I was thinking about a bio unit too, but after the contrast image I couldnt stop seeing those tires!

[image loading]

You see? TIRES!
[Also, the thing over his head is almost surely a flamethrower, but hardly a healer-thingy. We also totally have one shield, but two? IDK]

tires. no. page 71. I would like to add to my previous list of reasons it's not tires, that the "tire" on his leg doesn't match the "tires" on his shoulders.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
October 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#1818
tires. no. page 71. I would like to add to my previous list of reasons it's not tires, that the "tire" on his leg doesn't match the "tires" on his shoulders.


Excellent point. But all my eyes see are TIRES!

Tires or no tires, I think the image confirms the flamethrower and at least one shiled. Better than nothing.
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
October 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#1819
Can't wait for Blizz to actually release more information about the unit.

The people swearing its this or that and making huge accusations are absolutely retarded and are either doing it for 1.To argue about something or 2. Because they are stupid.

Why someone would feel so strongly about whether its one thing or another when all we have is a shaded image want to talk about imbalance and switching races or w/e is beyond me.

I for one am pretty excited to see what all races get and how strategies may change or be made.
I can't wait until HOTS its going to be a huge hit for everyone.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#1820
It looks like some form of a Marauder/Hellion hybrid. Perhaps a Hellion with concussive shells, increased damage vs armored units and benefits from stim?
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Prev 1 89 90 91 92 93 125 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
01:00
#69
PiGStarcraft624
CranKy Ducklings88
davetesta25
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft624
RuFF_SC2 213
WinterStarcraft147
Nathanias 54
PiLiPiLi 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 697
Purpose 33
Noble 21
NaDa 20
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever800
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv4349
fl0m2250
taco 1436
m0e_tv315
Foxcn224
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox466
Other Games
summit1g15178
C9.Mang0554
Maynarde174
Trikslyr88
Chillindude45
ToD41
minikerr3
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1289
BasetradeTV108
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 68
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra2033
• Stunt357
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
5h 23m
WardiTV Winter Champion…
8h 23m
Replay Cast
20h 23m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 5h
Maru vs Bunny
Classic vs SHIN
The PondCast
1d 6h
KCM Race Survival
1d 6h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 8h
OSC
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 20h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
[ Show More ]
Epic.LAN
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
PiG Sty Festival
3 days
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
Epic.LAN
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
PiG Sty Festival
4 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-League Week 31
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.