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Lobotomist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1541 Posts
October 06 2011 04:55 GMT
#1801
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.
Teching to hive too quickly isn't just a risk: it's an ultrarisk
frantic.cactus
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand164 Posts
October 06 2011 04:58 GMT
#1802
Yeah it looks like a subtle way to buff mech play, if it is indeed a transformation for the Hellion.
As it is now Hellion allow T to be aggressive but on the defensive gets eaten up by storm and especially Colossi.
My guess is, when a Hellion transforms it becomes an armoured unit which will 'tank' for the relativly weak Tanks along with having traditional splash damage. Ofc they won't be as effective because they now lack the ability to "line 'em up" but will act as an effective buffer for the Tanks.

Brings more decision making into the game, between aggressive and defensive.

This pleases me because it shows that Bilzz are aware of the relative weakness of Mech compared to Bio in TvP and are attempting to change that without effecting the other matchups

Terran it up since 2007
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 06 2011 05:13 GMT
#1803
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#1804
I hope it's a bio unit that complements mech play quite well, so that Terran players will have an easier transition from bio into mech by having some of their bio upgrades translate in to the late game when they go full mech later.

Maybe a mech medic?
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 06 2011 05:16 GMT
#1805
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

You can see tire treads on the filtered images, though.
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:21:12
October 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#1806
How is it not obviously a bio-transformed hellion. Someone please explain to me how an armored unit with wheels and the same type of flamethrower as a hellion is not hellion-related. Seriously, if there is something i haven't considered i would like my faith in humanity restored a bit.


If you really don't see that, that honestly gives a good deal of explanation to all the retards who saw that picture of a street light and thought it was a UFO. When you could see the light post.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:32:02
October 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#1807
Many people are forgetting what The Frozen Throne changed in Warcraft 3; not just 2-3 new units to each race, but also minor changes in many pre-existing units and new mechanics (neutrals, almost no gold for creeping, in-base shops other stuff i must have forgotten).

What I mean is:
1) Minor [design] changes to some units would be enough to change the relationship between the units
2) New mechanics could be enough to do the same
3) I have no reason to believe that 1-2 new unit for EACH race is different

Probably we´re having 1, 2 and 3 for HotS, just like in TFT. HotS is supposed to be ALMOST as different from WoL as BW and TFT were different from Vanillas.

So everybody chill. Its nothing like "Terrans will have an extra way to OP". The game may change completely. Terrans could even get underpowered (or under "complete") next to Z and P.


But I MAY be wrong. I think Bowder have shown to be more worried about design flaws than imbalance, which is favorable for major changes; in the other hand, there is the e-sport scene, so they can´t be too adventurous and make all the viewers think "the game is unrecognizable ! the top player we know are not winning anymore!"; so yes, maybe they dont do a "TFT makeover" at all, ...


EDIT: contrast adjustments suggest that those are tires for real
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Shousan
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:41:58
October 06 2011 05:27 GMT
#1808
Please, no more hellion-related things Blizzard.
- A desperate Zerg

It looks like a hellion transformer, which fits with Terran's versatile style, I mean, they can change tech labs, reactors, make vikings ground units, siege mode for tanks... sounds just right to transform hellions as well.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:34:30
October 06 2011 05:32 GMT
#1809
On October 06 2011 13:58 frantic.cactus wrote:
Yeah it looks like a subtle way to buff mech play, if it is indeed a transformation for the Hellion.
As it is now Hellion allow T to be aggressive but on the defensive gets eaten up by storm and especially Colossi.
My guess is, when a Hellion transforms it becomes an armoured unit which will 'tank' for the relativly weak Tanks along with having traditional splash damage. Ofc they won't be as effective because they now lack the ability to "line 'em up" but will act as an effective buffer for the Tanks.

Brings more decision making into the game, between aggressive and defensive.

This pleases me because it shows that Bilzz are aware of the relative weakness of Mech compared to Bio in TvP and are attempting to change that without effecting the other matchups


Yes, but in BW for example it would be absurd to give vultures a tank mode. The CONTRAST and VARIETY of speed and offense/defense within the same battle is what made it exciting. Mech doesn't need another slow beefy tank, they just need to buff the tank that already exists. If anything the hellions should be faster to highten the contrast.
ZorBa.G
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:36:37
October 06 2011 05:36 GMT
#1810
Imagine if Zerg got a superunit like the mothership.

Like instead of casting "vortex" or a nuke... it could cast like an endless hole in the ground for several seconds that would make any opposing units fall through into their grave deaths! Only thing is that when zerg casts this spell, every other zerg ground unit would freeze as they are channeling energy into creating the hole. Also, it would only be limted to cast on creep only.

Now that would be cool!
zanderfever.TV
Profile Joined March 2010
United States362 Posts
October 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#1811
Seems like a drop down to the gorund version of a Banshee
grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#1812
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.

[image loading]
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 06 2011 05:40 GMT
#1813
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

I am definitely playing T in the next expac if they were to have unit that shot out bowling balls.
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Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
October 06 2011 05:46 GMT
#1814
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.


People are trying to figure out what it most likely is, not what it could conceivably be.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 05:56:44
October 06 2011 05:54 GMT
#1815
On October 06 2011 14:39 grappasc wrote:
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.



I was thinking about a bio unit too, but after the contrast image I couldnt stop seeing those tires!

[image loading]

You see? TIRES!
[Also, the thing over his head is almost surely a flamethrower, but hardly a healer-thingy. We also totally have one shield, but two? IDK]
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 06 2011 05:57 GMT
#1816
On October 06 2011 14:16 Daralii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 14:13 Euronyme wrote:
On October 06 2011 13:55 Lobotomist wrote:
Whatever this thing is, I think the majority opinion is that it's some sort of combo of units that already exist.


Yeah that's because the majority of people have an acute lack of imagination :p

Honestly it doesn't have to be wheels. Could be something purely cosmetic. A basket of ammo or a bowling ball or something.

You can see tire treads on the filtered images, though.


What? tire treads? Dont be dumb, cant you see he has a lot of imagination?
I mean clearly those are something purely cosmetic such as a basket of ammo or a bowling ball
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grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 06 2011 05:59 GMT
#1817
On October 06 2011 14:54 nerak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 14:39 grappasc wrote:
since my post on page 71 attracted zero attention, I decided to post a more accurate picture than before and include more key text pieces to the picture, so people won't have to bother read what looks like a message on a forum.



I was thinking about a bio unit too, but after the contrast image I couldnt stop seeing those tires!

[image loading]

You see? TIRES!
[Also, the thing over his head is almost surely a flamethrower, but hardly a healer-thingy. We also totally have one shield, but two? IDK]

tires. no. page 71. I would like to add to my previous list of reasons it's not tires, that the "tire" on his leg doesn't match the "tires" on his shoulders.
nerak
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Brazil256 Posts
October 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#1818
tires. no. page 71. I would like to add to my previous list of reasons it's not tires, that the "tire" on his leg doesn't match the "tires" on his shoulders.


Excellent point. But all my eyes see are TIRES!

Tires or no tires, I think the image confirms the flamethrower and at least one shiled. Better than nothing.
"I am smiling" - Marauder Dynamite
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
October 06 2011 06:03 GMT
#1819
Can't wait for Blizz to actually release more information about the unit.

The people swearing its this or that and making huge accusations are absolutely retarded and are either doing it for 1.To argue about something or 2. Because they are stupid.

Why someone would feel so strongly about whether its one thing or another when all we have is a shaded image want to talk about imbalance and switching races or w/e is beyond me.

I for one am pretty excited to see what all races get and how strategies may change or be made.
I can't wait until HOTS its going to be a huge hit for everyone.
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
October 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#1820
It looks like some form of a Marauder/Hellion hybrid. Perhaps a Hellion with concussive shells, increased damage vs armored units and benefits from stim?
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