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Grndr101
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium125 Posts
October 05 2011 23:38 GMT
#1701
On October 06 2011 08:26 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 08:12 Emporio wrote:
What about a transforming firebat/hellion where the firebat can stim but the hellion is faster than the nonstimmed firebat?


Things that I wish were never made:
Stim
Blue Flame

Things I hope will never be made:
Stimmed blue flame


You're making me drool o_o
Stimmed blue flame marellions.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10381 Posts
October 05 2011 23:48 GMT
#1702
On October 06 2011 08:38 Grndr101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 08:26 CeriseCherries wrote:
On October 06 2011 08:12 Emporio wrote:
What about a transforming firebat/hellion where the firebat can stim but the hellion is faster than the nonstimmed firebat?


Things that I wish were never made:
Stim
Blue Flame

Things I hope will never be made:
Stimmed blue flame


You're making me drool o_o
Stimmed blue flame marellions.


that would be really fun :D

cmon tho stim is quite necessary though, or at least in the sense that it would be something many would miss xD
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
October 05 2011 23:50 GMT
#1703
On October 06 2011 07:33 Volband wrote:
I'm almost 100% sure that it will NOT be a transforming unit. Blizzard stated numerous times that one of the hardest obstacles in designing a new unit is making it unique. There is absolutely no way they would pull another transforming unit.


This might be a transforming unit in the same way that the siege tank is a transforming unit.
I see nothing wrong with more positional control units. I think they add a lot of depth to the game.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 23:59:21
October 05 2011 23:55 GMT
#1704
can we have air to air aoe and rid of all/revamp ground to air aoe? my #1 annoyance.
well, #2 after micro limiting spells.

i hope they change around the units and spells to make the game better.

this seems like all-in-one unit like medivac and hellion...

if they got rid of marauder and hellion, and brought back firebat and vulture...
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 05 2011 23:59 GMT
#1705
On October 06 2011 08:55 jinorazi wrote:
can we have air to air aoe and rid of all/revamp ground to air aoe? my #1 annoyance.
well, #2 after micro limiting spells.

i hope they change around the units and spells to make the game better.

this seems like all-in-one unit like medivac and hellion...

if they got rid of marauder and hellion, and brought back firebat and vulture...

vulture was awesome, but firebat didn't really see that much use. i would like the goliath back.
FiveOneFour
Profile Joined October 2011
8 Posts
October 06 2011 00:02 GMT
#1706
You guys dont consider how important how important lore is to blizzard.
All this has to go into a logical evolutionary perspective.
Medivac cant lose their medic abilities, thats just not logical as far as productivity goes.
Stuff has to become better, it cant revert back to 10 years ago just for balance issues.

Also the new unit is probably steve jobs cadaver into a viking like mech, robocop style.
RIP.
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
October 06 2011 00:06 GMT
#1707
wait...chill?
I wonder if this unit shoots liquid nitrogen instead of fire?
:O
moo...for DRG
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
October 06 2011 00:07 GMT
#1708
Blizzard should totally release a silhouette of the hydraroach for zerg.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
October 06 2011 00:11 GMT
#1709
Hint... Chill.

Chill, what are you holding back?
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 00:15:25
October 06 2011 00:12 GMT
#1710
Terran
Make a mech hover bike unit - the new vulture, whatever the name is - to replace the Hellion.
Moving shot micro.
The Cliff-jump upgrade at armory, might have cooldown.
Separate Speed upgrade at armory. Make it ridiculously fast with upgrade.
Mines or reaper mine upgrade as well at tech lab.
Give Marauder AoE attack or eliminate it altogether.
Remove Reaper
Make Tanks 2 supply.
Replace Thor with new splash AA unit. Less supply.
Make Banshee faster, but nerf attack dmg/hp a bit.
Reduce Comsat footprint by 25-33%.
Nerf MULE mining rate slightly.
Give EMP to Raven and remove HSM.
Give Ghost new ability

Zerg:
Give Hydras Marauder's concussive slowing attack, upgraded at hydra den. More in line with Zerg's
Make Roaches 1 supply again so zerg feels more swarmy compared to terran. Nerf HP and attack accordingly. Buff default armor to compensate for reduced HP.
Lurkers evolve from Roach at tier 2. 2 supply, not seige range. No burrow move.
Make Burrow Hatchery tech.
Broodlords evolve from mutalisk.
Replace corruptor.
Add scourge.


Protoss:
Make Warpgate cooldown a bit slower than Gateway cooldown.
Move Warpgate upgrade to Twilight Council, adjust research time.
Replace Colossus with more exciting, more dangerous splash Robotics unit.
Fix carrier micro or replace carrier
Replace mothership with non-hero caster air unit.
Rename Phoenix
AA Splash Air unit

SC2, now with 200% more excitement, playability, and watchability
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
October 06 2011 00:18 GMT
#1711
On October 06 2011 07:54 usethis2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 07:50 Absolutionn wrote:
I hope they add another mech unit that can shoot up, I really like mech like 1000 times more than bio.

I think that could be it. 2.25 speed (same as marine/marauder), produced in factory, no stim, shoots up. Marines/hellions (especially hellion speed) being nerfed for compensation. I definitely see hellion's move speed reduced because right now hellions are just out of control in every match-ups. They turned out to be even better mineral dump than marines.


Hellions with lower movement speed would be a joke. The point is that they are fragile and hard to use, but their speed compensates for this. Did you play bw with speed vultures?

Besides, hellions were only "out of control" in TvT before the BF nerf. They suck terribly in TvP and are decent in TvZ/TvT. Zerg has roaches and mutas to easily deal with them. Defending against speedling runbys is much harder for terran than it is for zerg to defend against hellion harass.
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
October 06 2011 00:21 GMT
#1712
My vote is that its a unit that uses cryogenic technology . Nothing I can think of in the SC games uses the bitter frost as a weapon, only seems like its due for one.

To be specific, I'd like to think it'l be a robot (A.I), instead of a bio-mechanical suit/human operated.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#1713
On October 06 2011 09:21 v3chr0 wrote:
My vote is that its a unit that uses cryogenic technology . Nothing I can think of in the SC games uses the bitter frost as a weapon, only seems like its due for one.

To be specific, I'd like to think it'l be a robot (A.I), instead of a bio-mechanical suit/human operated.

In short, something with concussive shells or stasis? Don't like it. Way too WC3/Batman.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
October 06 2011 00:23 GMT
#1714
Hopefully this will not be an "a-move, massive damage" unit like many of Blizzard's Starcraft units. Unfortunately, this will probably be another AoE caster like all the casters from Wings of Liberty.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 00:27:14
October 06 2011 00:25 GMT
#1715
On October 06 2011 08:59 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 08:55 jinorazi wrote:
can we have air to air aoe and rid of all/revamp ground to air aoe? my #1 annoyance.
well, #2 after micro limiting spells.

i hope they change around the units and spells to make the game better.

this seems like all-in-one unit like medivac and hellion...

if they got rid of marauder and hellion, and brought back firebat and vulture...

vulture was awesome, but firebat didn't really see that much use. i would like the goliath back.



of course, i was just referring to the unit that got combined into one.

goliath is 100 times better than thor. the whole "hero" unit blizzard tried to go with in sc2 was a BAD BAD FUCKING BAD idea. i still want to punch browder in the face for mothership, i gave it a chance and its a no.

edit: firebat was good vs ling(obviously), it had uses vs. darkswarm and zealot heavy plays.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
October 06 2011 00:26 GMT
#1716
On October 06 2011 09:23 0neder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 09:21 v3chr0 wrote:
My vote is that its a unit that uses cryogenic technology . Nothing I can think of in the SC games uses the bitter frost as a weapon, only seems like its due for one.

To be specific, I'd like to think it'l be a robot (A.I), instead of a bio-mechanical suit/human operated.

In short, something with concussive shells or stasis? Don't like it. Way too WC3/Batman.


I don't think they would add more crowd control. But my guess is that itll have a supportive role.
"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
Eknoid4
Profile Joined October 2010
United States902 Posts
October 06 2011 00:28 GMT
#1717
It's pretty painfully obvious that this terran picture is of a hellion transformed into a bio unit.
If you're mad that someone else is brazenly trumpeting their beliefs with ignorance, perhaps you should be mad that you are doing it too.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
October 06 2011 00:28 GMT
#1718
Oh shit, I just realized. The unit is Chill himself, and only Naniwa will be able to defeat Terran's using this unit.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
October 06 2011 00:28 GMT
#1719
On October 06 2011 09:02 FiveOneFour wrote:
You guys dont consider how important how important lore is to blizzard.
All this has to go into a logical evolutionary perspective.
Medivac cant lose their medic abilities, thats just not logical as far as productivity goes.
Stuff has to become better, it cant revert back to 10 years ago just for balance issues.

Also the new unit is probably steve jobs cadaver into a viking like mech, robocop style.
RIP.


Vulture was considered the most imba unit in SCBW because it was the fastest unit on the ground (with speed upgrade) and it laid 3 "mini-nukes" while only costing 75 mins and totally owning T1 of the other races (lings and zealots). Vultures had hover bike technology. Hellions have wheels without mines and is not the fastest unit in the game. Doesn't seem like Blizz was evolving unit design at all in this case.

If the vulture with mines and speed is back, I will 100% go back to Terran from Zerg as Vults were my fav unit.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 06 2011 00:31 GMT
#1720
On October 06 2011 09:12 0neder wrote:
Terran
Make a mech hover bike unit - the new vulture, whatever the name is - to replace the Hellion.
Moving shot micro.
The Cliff-jump upgrade at armory, might have cooldown.
Separate Speed upgrade at armory. Make it ridiculously fast with upgrade.
Mines or reaper mine upgrade as well at tech lab.
Give Marauder AoE attack or eliminate it altogether.
Remove Reaper
Make Tanks 2 supply.
Replace Thor with new splash AA unit. Less supply.
Make Banshee faster, but nerf attack dmg/hp a bit.
Reduce Comsat footprint by 25-33%.
Nerf MULE mining rate slightly.
Give EMP to Raven and remove HSM.
Give Ghost new ability

Zerg:
Give Hydras Marauder's concussive slowing attack, upgraded at hydra den. More in line with Zerg's
Make Roaches 1 supply again so zerg feels more swarmy compared to terran. Nerf HP and attack accordingly. Buff default armor to compensate for reduced HP.
Lurkers evolve from Roach at tier 2. 2 supply, not seige range. No burrow move.
Make Burrow Hatchery tech.
Broodlords evolve from mutalisk.
Replace corruptor.
Add scourge.


Protoss:
Make Warpgate cooldown a bit slower than Gateway cooldown.
Move Warpgate upgrade to Twilight Council, adjust research time.
Replace Colossus with more exciting, more dangerous splash Robotics unit.
Fix carrier micro or replace carrier
Replace mothership with non-hero caster air unit.
Rename Phoenix
AA Splash Air unit

SC2, now with 200% more excitement, playability, and watchability


You could always just go and play BW

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